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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 07:13 PM
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Who outscored * on the SAT or ACT tests? his scores inside
Edited on Tue Jun-22-04 07:15 PM by ldsjocktx
According to a CNN.com article on affirmative action, *'s SAT scores were Verbal 566, Math 640, for a total of 1206. For those that took the ACT, according to the University of Californa-Berkeley, an ACT of 26 corresponds to a SAT of 1180, a 27 to 1220, with *'s total of 1206.

Raise your hand if you outscored *. I had a 31 on ACT years ago.

Raise your other hand if you can't believe he that, especially 566 on the verbal section.

edit.. forgot to post the link

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/20/timep.affirm.action.tm/
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agates Donating Member (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 07:15 PM
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1. Raising hand
:-)
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blueraven95 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 07:16 PM
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2. raised hand
but its no surprise
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 07:16 PM
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3. Hells yeah
I got a 1470, twice. Took the SAT 2s and got a 760 verbal and 790 math. Eat that, chimp boy :D
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 07:28 PM
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4. Bush was rejected by St. John's School
My kids attend St. John's school here in Houston. St. John's is very very strong academically. My son's class had 78% of the class qualify as national merit semi-finalist or commended students.

Bush applied to St. John's for high school and was rejected. At a college counseling event for all of the parents of my son's class, the dean of admissions for Yale was asked if she had heard about Bush's expierence at St. John's. Evidently, the St. John's admissions group had told her the story over dinner. The Dean of admissions for Yale then told the group that legacies (i.e. Bush) play a far smaller role in admissions at Yale now days.

My son and I took this to be a subtle slam at Bush.
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 07:30 PM
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6. wasn't he also turned down by University of Texas?
I've heard that but can't find a link.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 07:29 PM
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5. 740 verbal 650 math on sats
also 750 verbal and 710 math on Gre's
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 07:30 PM
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7. raises hand
680 math, 630 verbal
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 07:32 PM
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8. My 14 year old kid outscored W...
...720 M 640 V = 1360, and he is in the eigth grade!
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 07:41 PM
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9. Raising hand
:hi:
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Laszlo_Hollyfeld Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 12:21 AM
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48. You outscored God on your SATs
ya little twerp. :-)
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 07:46 PM
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10. raising hand
how the hell did a 1206 score qualify him for Yale ???

unless you think daddy could have helped him in some way ???
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 07:57 PM
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11. raising hand
NT
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:01 PM
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12. Yep on both accounts
31 on ACTs. I don't remember what I scored on the SAT, but I think it was in the low 1400 range.

I'm not genius but I'm smarter than *. I already knew that, though.
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:05 PM
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13. My son and daughter both had 32 on ACT
Never had to take SAT - most colleges around here don't require them.

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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:18 PM
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14. I did, and I was drunk.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 11:45 PM
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44. Well, so was he, probably.
:)
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:27 PM
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15. Hand raised
740 V, 710 M
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:28 PM
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16. I Win!
Beat George handily, (over 300 points higher than him), and i actually took the test myself.

I don't, for a microsecond, believe that this dunce scored a 1200 on the SAT. Not for a NANOSECOND, do i believe it.

He would have been most hard pressed to hit 4 digits.
The Professor
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:33 PM
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18. I can't believe he did either
1200 is very respectable, and I just dont think he has that in him.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 12:08 AM
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46. I have a hard time believing that too.
Edited on Wed Jun-23-04 12:18 AM by Lisa0825
1200 is nothing to sneeze at. I don't remember my exact score, but I think it was around 1220. I was a National Merit Scholar with that score, and I really can't believe Bushboy has enough smarts to make that score.

edited to add:
I took it in 1985. Someone mentioned below that scoring has changed over the years, so I am not sure if that matters.
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SadEagle Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:40 PM
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20. Smartypants ;-)
Just under 300 point over him for me...
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:32 PM
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17. I beat the Shrub
I scored a 1240, though I wish I had taken it more than once to possibly increase my score. I never took the ACT, so have no basis for comparison there. I'm actually surprised he scored as highly as he did; he comes across much dumber than a score like that would indicate.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:10 PM
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28. I don't believe that score, either
Of course, this was before alcohol pickled his brain.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:39 PM
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19. You couldn't have paid me enough to give a shit about the SATs
back then.

:shrug:
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:41 PM
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21. Both hands up.
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:42 PM
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22. My hand is raised!
Edited on Tue Jun-22-04 08:44 PM by SW FL Dem
and I didn't go to a prep school or get coaching. I went to a small rural high school with a graduating class of under 200. I beat him on both tests.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:43 PM
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23. I kicked his ass
:)
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:46 PM
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24. Me! Me! Me!
32 on the ACTs. 630 verbal, 720 math, give or take (and this was before they recalibrated the scores in the late 1990s).
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 08:49 PM
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25. Raised hand
1310
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:00 PM
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26. That's it?
Jeez. 740 verbal/ 680 quantitative.

GRE: 760 verbal/ 800 analytic/ 680 quantitative.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:06 PM
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27. *raises hand*
Yeah, I outdid whoever Shrub got to take his tests :).

29 ACT, 1280 SAT. I'd have to find my actual test results to see the components, though.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:29 PM
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29. Both hands
one for my, one for my wife
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:40 PM
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30. I scored higher, but I don't put so much stock in this test.
Edited on Tue Jun-22-04 09:49 PM by Art_from_Ark
First of all, it only measures math and (written) verbal skills, and ignores other equally relevant subjects (Really, how many people are going to take more than one advanced math course in college?).

It is multiple choice, which means that a good guesser has a good chance of getting a respectable score.

When I took it, the answer circles had to be filled in precisely with the proper shade of dark pencil. If one wasn't good at filling in the circles, there was a chance that correct answers might have been counted as incorrect.

Sometimes, the optical scanners can be messed up. I remember going to a math contest at a local university and getting a 2 out of 40! Other students in my advanced math class got similarly low scores, so we knew something was amiss. After much persistance, were finally persuaded the university to recheck the scores, and, sure enough, most of us had actually scored in the high 20s or low 30s. There's no way to check to see if your SAT answer sheet was graded accurately, and no way to contest the results.

Then there's the problem of nitpicking questions in the verbal section. For example, which is correct-- "We'll meet at around 12:00", or "We'll meet at about 12:00"?

Finally, one's emotional and/or physical state during the test can affect the scores. For example, the test site was far from my home, and I didn't have a car. I had to rely on someone for a ride, and they were late. Then we were stuck in traffic. We barely made it, and by that time, my stomach was acting up. The last 15 minutes or so of the test were quite unbearable.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:41 PM
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31. Me! 32 on the ACT!
I can be president too!
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:30 PM
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38. me too- back in 1978. 99th percentile across the board-
my math section was perfect, and my low score was in the grammar section- a 29. but it was still high enough to get me out of the rhetoric requirement at U ofI(llinois).

I never took the SAT's, but my PSAT score made me a National Merit Scholar.
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AbbeyRoad Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:42 PM
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32. oooh...oooh....me..me...(raises hand)
31 ACT

I find it hard to believe that he got those scores all on his own.
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:43 PM
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33. up high.
:-)
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:49 PM
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34. To be fair
the SAT has subsequently been recentered, and shrub's score would be a hundred points higher or so on today's curve.

That said, I beat him when I took it in 7th grade ;-)
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:57 PM
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35. Me too
Edited on Tue Jun-22-04 09:59 PM by EstimatedProphet
V=700 Q=730 T=1430
I can believe his verbal score. It was a written test.
Oh, and I took it before the recentering...
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:58 PM
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36. Yeah
Not by a lot (mine were kind of close to that as math has never been my strongpoint), but yep, even I beat him. I totally kicked his ass on the verbal section. :D
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:08 PM
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37. Raising hand! I did! I did!
But I supposed it's not too tought to beat him in something requiring brains.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:32 PM
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39. Combined SAT of 1399 here: 719 verbal, 680 math
Edited on Tue Jun-22-04 10:43 PM by Lydia Leftcoast
and as a long-time college professor who knows what SAT scores her advisees came in with, I have to assume that Bushboy got a ringer to take the test for him. No way was he over 1200. He seems more like a 900 to me.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 11:31 PM
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40. Both hands raised.
Did he get the answers beforehand? That's the only way that I'd even believe that he was capable of scoring that high!
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patriotvoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 11:38 PM
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41. Hand up.
EOM
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 11:42 PM
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42. 1450 here on SAT...aced the math, 650 verbal. nt
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 11:45 PM
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43. Are you sure it wasn't 56.6 Verbal and 64.0 Math?
Good lord, My Verbal was 740 and my Math was 590.

I had Achievement scores of 690 English, 770 American History and 700 .
Biology.

Are we sure that Daddy didn't hire someone to take the test for him and bribe the monitor?????
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 11:50 PM
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45. Hire someone to take his test?
Are you accusing the bush family of dishonesty? I have a hard time believing those scores myself.
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 12:14 AM
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47. NO FUCKING WAY
Someone who filled in the name George W. Bush got those scores, but not Shrub.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 12:34 AM
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49. 1450 SAT...800 verbal, 650 math
Not surprised Junior didn't do so well on the verbal section (would he do as well today?)
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 12:35 AM
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50. 760/740 n/t
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 12:48 AM
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51. Mr GoddessOfGuinness had a perfect 1600 on his SATs
...and that was in 1963. He only took the test once, there was no PSAT, and there was no such thing as a class that would help you score well.

I still scored better than Dumbyass with 690 Verbal and 680 Math in 1975. I took a PSAT, but never took test score-enhancing classes.
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