Where the Hell does this judge live?

[TXlib]

Judge pledges to protect Commandments monument
Federal court agrees to hear lawsuit against removal

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 Posted: 3:17 AM EDT (0717 GMT)


MONTGOMERY, Alabama (CNN) -- Suspended Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore vowed to fight to keep his job and to keep a massive Ten Commandments monument in the state judicial building's rotunda after police barricaded the building's doors Monday.

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Here's my favorite quote from this article:

"Christians are offended at many things in today's society," Moore told about 150 supporters. "They're offended at abortion, at sodomy in our streets, at kids getting killed in school.

Sodomy in our streets?! (Cut to Jon Stewart doing his eye-rubbing WTF gesture)
Where the Hell does Roy Moore live? Fire Island?

Another great quote:

Patrick Mahoney, director of the Christian Defense Coalition, said one company contacted about removing the monument has refused to do so, and he urged Moore's supporters to boycott any company that took the job.

"Today let it be known that any engineering company or any company that would transport furniture or move heavy materials, if you move this monument, we will call for a nationwide boycott of you," he said.

"We see the First Amendment to protect religious liberty, not crush religious liberty," Mahoney said.

If their so damned opposed to relocating the monument to, say, a church where it will be appreciated, I've got a solution: Start handing out sledgehammers. We'll see what gets crushed.

Does this judge have a brain tumor or something? What made him wake up one day and think to himself, "Hmmm, I think I'll piss away my career with a publicity stunt..."

[meegbear]

1. Probably referring to "Southern Decedence" ...

in regards to "sodomy in our streets". It's in New Orleans this upcoming weekend and it's akin to a gay Mardi Gras. The usual debaucery that happens during the tradional Mardi Gras happens here too, but conservative groups will videotape gays playing around and use it as "proof" about the e-villes of the radical homosexual agenda.

God, I wish I could I could be there! :evilgrin:

[RedSox02]

2. Sodomy in our streets?

Let's see, your a homosexual. You have a big case in front of Roy Moore. You walk into the Alabama Supreme Court past Moore's monument, into the courtoom. Judge Roy Moore immediately sniffs you out as a homosexual. How fair a trial do you think you recieve?

Or how about this decision from Moore: "Gee Mr. (Property Owner) you sure do have a strong case. However, since the state has presented strong evidence that you recently committed adultery, God tells me I must not rule in your favor".

This guy is nuts. If I lived in Montgomery Alabama I would have so many signs made up mocking these guys. I'd be down there every day asking them if they eat shellfish, if they make their wife sleep in another room during menstration, or if they have sold their daughters into slavery yet.

[WoodrowFan]

3. Food Laws

Be careful on the food laws. A lot of Christians will explain that in the book of Acts, Peter's dream gave the followers of Jesus permission to eat what they wanted (verses copied below). You're on safer ground using the other examples.

BTW, some fundies DO follow the dietary laws still, but they are a minority.

Acts 10:9-16

9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

Website of some of those who still keep the dietary laws...
http://ourfathersword.org/odbfoods.htm

[dfong63]

4. but that's clearly a misinterpretation

the dream was metaphoric, not literal. Peter was confused about its meaning. upon reading the rest of acts 10, plus acts 11:1-18, the meaning of Peter's dream is made clear. it's not about eating or food; it's about the acceptance of gentiles into the faith. "What God hath cleansed" is not pork or shellfish, but the gentiles who received the holy ghost.

i think there are sound scriptural arguments that Christians are not required to follow Jewish dietary laws, but this isn't one of them.

[Bake]

5. And how exactly is that CLEARLY a misinterpretation?

Equally reasonable is the view that the dream applied on TWO levels: (1) to the dietary laws, and (2) to the evangelization of the Gentiles.

Bake

[dfong63]

6. read Peter's explanation

Peter himself explained his dream in Acts 11:1-18. and his explanation did not say anything about diet. if the dream had a second meaning, don't you think Peter would have mentioned it?

you might also consider the meaning of Acts 15:5-20, in particular verses 19-20, where even after accepting Peter's interpretation of his dream, the church leaders decided that some dietary restrictions should apply to the Gentile believers.

``19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: 20 but that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.''

on this last verse, my copy of the KJV has a cross-reference to Leviticus 17:10-16. (eating of blood forbidden)

again, please note that i am NOT arguing that all Christians must follow orthodox Jewish dietary laws. i'm just pointing out that this oft-cited scriptural justification is extremely weak.

disclaimer: i am not a bible scholar.