Creation "Science" Fair (WARNING: Hoax Spoiler)

[BurtWorm]

Remember the post from yesterday about the weird Creation "Science" Fair, with winning projects like this one:

2nd Place: "Women Were Designed For Homemaking"
Jonathan Goode (grade 7) applied findings from many fields of science to support his conclusion that God designed women for homemaking: physics shows that women have a lower center of gravity than men, making them more suited to carrying groceries and laundry baskets; biology shows that women were designed to carry un-born babies in their wombs and to feed born babies milk, making them the natural choice for child rearing; social sciences show that the wages for women workers are lower than for normal workers, meaning that they are unable to work as well and thus earn equal pay; and exegetics shows that God created Eve as a companion for Adam, not as a co-worker.

http://objective.jesussave.us/creationsciencefair.html



If it made you laugh, there's a good reason for that:





http://www.applelinks.com/articles/2002/04/20020423140855.shtml



http://www.quicktopic.com/boing/H/VrjGirvhsVA

[roughsatori]

1. How dare you spoil my fun! NT

[BurtWorm]

2. I warned you!

;)

[damnraddem]

3. The big attack comes not under the name 'Creation Science,' rather ...

under the title 'Intelligent Design.' Yes, it's Creationism warmed over, but stripped of direct references to 'Creator' in hopes of skirting court rulings. ID's non-science status is confirmed by its focus on K-12 science teaching. There is some good new, as this out of New Mexico: http://www.nmsr.org/nmsr-hot.htm. But the attacks are constant, with new tacks being taken, as with this petition drive in Texas: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/82703_local_intelligentdesign.html. Will the U.S. decide what goes into K-12 education through popular referendum?

So, enjoy the hoax sites. But watch out: real Creationism is coming your way, all dressed up as 'Intelligent Design.'

[Doctor Pedantic]

4. Hey -- I Believe In Intelligent Design

It's not typically "creationism" in the sense that God created in 6 24-hour days 6,000 years ago. Many of us who believe in some component of ID also believe in evolution -- thus we find the whole Icthus symbol with Darwin feet factually incorrect as well as profoundly disrespectful. For example, I believe that an "intelligence" (in my view, God) created the universe. Did he do it via the Big Bang, evolution, etc.? Sure looks that way. The devil, as they say, is in the details.

When it comes down to the question of what was before the beginning, and how the first piece of matter leading to the Big Bang occurred, there's no empirical evidence at all, so you're out of the realm of science and into the realm of guesswork, philosophy, or religion.

Just remember -- religious faith is not inconsistent with intelligence, and belief in a Creator is not inconsistent with belief in evolution.

Having said all that, ID is a religious philosophy that has no place being taught in a science curriculum, especially in a public school.

[BurtWorm]

6. My understanding is that Intelligent Design is a specific dogma

that argues, essentially, that "Nature" gives evidence of there being an intelligent designer behind every change and move in the universe, that looking for evidence of natural selection is looking for a red a herring. The real aim of science, according to this view, is to give glory to God. Is that the kind of ID you believe in?

[Doctor Pedantic]

7. I Think There's A Pretty Big Umbrella

I'm sure there are people who give ID that definition, and that's probably the one the people trying to call this "science" use. It's kind of a take-off on the old philosophical argument for God's existence: if you find a watch lying on the sidewalk, you would assume that it was put together by design, and that the parts didn't just randomly assemble.

My view of ID is more what used to be called "theistic evolution," which is a problematic term that kind of emphasizes the fence-sitting nature of the belief.

I sometimes feel like the watchdog for anti-religious bias among the left! I am a highly educated, intelligent, liberal person who just happens to be an Evangelical Christian as well. I believe in the divinity of Christ, I believe in gay marriage, and I don't see any inconsistency. There are three or four of us in this country, y'know... ;-)

[BurtWorm]

10. I wish there were a lot more of you!

Welcome to DU!

:toast:

[dwckabal]

8. The voice of reason

Having said all that, ID is a religious philosophy that has no place being taught in a science curriculum, especially in a public school.

I'm so glad to hear you say that. My biggest beef is not with religion, or even Creationists, or Young Earthers or ID. It's when they try to get it taught in school as science.

[CO Liberal]

5. Has Anyone Else Noticed This?????

Many of the people who are advocating for "Intelligent Design" have little intelligence of their own?

:-)

[dwckabal]

9. I knew it was too good to be true

The adolescent thong for sale was too much!