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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:44 AM
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Poll question: Favorite Jefferson Starship song?
These are post Airplane...you know from the 70s-80s. The Marty Balin and Mickey what's-his-name
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:47 AM
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1. But I Did Like White Rabbit...
... and poor Grace Slick admited once that she was so out of it and under the influence that she has no independent recollection of ever having recorded the song.

-- Allen
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 10:07 AM
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7. white rabbit is there best, IMO
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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:48 AM
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2. "Mickey" is Mickey Thomas.
Edited on Fri Sep-05-03 09:48 AM by playahata1
With the exception of "Jane," his Starship stuff sucks big-time. Overall, moreover, he was so much better on Elvin Bishop's "Fooled Around and Fell in Love" -- which I have been singing constantly the last couple of weeks.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:49 AM
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3. JANE YOU'RE PLAYING A GAME YOU NEVER CAN WIN GIRL!
Edited on Fri Sep-05-03 09:52 AM by wyldwolf
damn, Mickey Thomas can SIIIING!!!

I also like "No Way Out," "Find Your Way Back," and "Laying It On The Line."

Before joining the Starship he was being recruited by several other arena bands.



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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:50 AM
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4. Where's "Count On Me"?
Marty and Grace with one of their best vocals.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 10:40 AM
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10. AGREED
I love that song.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 10:40 AM
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11. AGREED
I love that song.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:55 AM
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5. None.
Edited on Fri Sep-05-03 09:55 AM by bif
They were just a watered down version of The Airplane.
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regularguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 10:39 AM
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8. More than watered down....
One of the truly greatest rock bands ever went on to be one of the most lame bands ever. Quite an accomplishment actually. I guess "Miracles" is a pretty good song...."Built this City" is so bad that I'm embarrased for them when I hear it. Maybe the worst rock song ever.

Jorma!
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:58 AM
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6. Miracles....Naughty lyrics in the full version
Edited on Fri Sep-05-03 09:59 AM by kmla
... I had a taste of the real world
(just a drop of of it)
When I went down on you....

A naughty lyric that slipped by the censors.

Thanks, Casey! And now, a long distance dedication...
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 08:16 PM
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30. It didn't 'slip by the censors'...
...since it was taken out of the version heard on the radio, along with the line about "when I start dancing inside you"...

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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 10:40 AM
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9. Anything Pre-Starship :)
Go back to '67 - '69 . . "Volunteers" . . NOW THERE'S A SONG!
Or maybe "We Can Be Together":


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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 11:05 AM
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12. Gotta agree Awf
They were just a shadow of their former selves by the Starship. I saw them in 80 or 81 and I will say they did rock on Wooden Ships. Wish I could've seen 'em in the day...
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 12:26 PM
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14. My first concert was the Jefferson Airplane
in Anchorage, Alaska in 1970 . . . I was all of 6 months old :)
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 01:44 PM
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17. Wow, man
I bet you got some great memories of that!

Great trial by fire to RnR, though.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 11:06 AM
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13. Favorites
Starship - Fast Buck Freddie
Airplane - the entire Surrealitic Pillow album minus a few
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rppper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 12:40 PM
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15. another mickey song....."find your way back"
It's been a long, long road
Since I packed up and left on my own
And I carry a heavy load
Just trying to get back to her heart

I sure ain't got no home
I seem to find love where I ramble
And when it's time to go
I hear that voice again, saying........

find your way back...
find your way back, to her heart...

leave a message with the rain
You can find me where the wind blows
The snow across the pain
And the frost upon the heart

You got no place to be
Still you wonder where you're going
And why I had to leave
I hear a voice......It says to me

I know it's too late now
But, I wish I could go back in time
And start all over somehow
And get it right from the start
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 01:33 PM
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16. "Runaway"
I think that song is really beautiful. Although I like Jefferson Airplane substantially more, I think Jefferson Starship did plenty of good music as well. I just approach them as two totally different bands; I think it's easier to acknowledge the good stuff by both that way (especially in the case of Jefferson Starship). "Red Octopus" is my favorite album by Jefferson Starship, although there's several I haven't heard.
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BarbaRosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 02:45 PM
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18. Hyperdrive
I like most all of what is on the Dragonfly album. Of course that was when they had Popa John on the violin.

Ya gotta love these lyrics -Be Young You

The tongues of some men are made of metal
The tongues of some men are made of oil
But the keepers of those men never rolled
Their tongues for anybody's free ride but there own
Now the oily tongues are thirsty for Black gold..

more..words and music by Gracie Slick
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 05:39 PM
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27. Yeah!! Following that: commercialized pablum!
"Dragonfly" was great, but that was the last one. Give me the AIRPLANE, anytime!!
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:17 PM
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19. Hijack the Starship!
The whole damn record. Especially everything from Have You Seen the Stars tonight through the end.

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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 04:29 PM
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20. I loved Jefferson Airplane. I very much dislike Starship.
and my favorite JA song was "Triad."
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 04:32 PM
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21. Love the Airplane, Like the Starship.
Saw them in 1967.

Saw the "reunion" at the Greek. "Summer of Love"
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 04:50 PM
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22. Way better as "Airplane". "Starship" is too commercialized, sanitized
Even Paul Kantner disses "Starship" (he gives the group the finger in the VH1 'behind the music' episodes devoted to Jefferson Airplane, and he's the lead singer!)

Dunno about Grace Slick, she's changed a lot since the counterculture attempt at revolution... :-(
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 05:14 PM
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25. The REAL reason Kantner disses Starship is because...
..he had a fued with Mickey Thomas.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 04:52 PM
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23. "Movin' on Up to the East Side"
Edited on Fri Sep-05-03 04:52 PM by CanuckAmok
oh, wait.... Jefferson WHO?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 04:53 PM
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24. yuk
give me the airplane please!! the starship was awful......
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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 05:17 PM
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26. How about "Fast Buck Freddy"
....it actually rocked. Like the old Airplane.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 05:44 PM
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28. They are responsible for the worst song of all-time!
"We Built this City on Rock and Roll" :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 05:52 PM
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29. Really? That's the worse of all time?
hmmmmmmm....
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