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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 02:57 PM
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Poll question: Favorite Jack the Ripper suspect?
Re/the Patricia Cornwell book on the subject"Case Closed"..I just finished it,and it isn't.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:35 PM
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1. are you a JTR buff, Clancy?
I am. :)
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:50 PM
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5. Yes...
an unsolved mystery involving an enigmatic slasher with a cool nickname,royalty,artists, and ladies of the night...what could be more intriguing?
I feel like I have to add that I'm sorry for the poor victims and what they suffered,but it's so long ago that it's the mystery that remains,rather than the horror(at least to me)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:51 PM
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16. I think it's something about that time in history
there's something so eerie about it. Have you ever been to that area in London? It's still a bit creepy.
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 07:15 PM
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18. Yes...
I agree...you can almost hear the footsteps of the Ripper in some of those little streets of the East End.
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:37 PM
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2. Sickert was who she said it was in the book, wasn't it?
Why do you not think it was him? I'm just curious.
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:52 PM
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6. It could have been him,
I just don't think she proved it. Besides,I've read that there were credible reports that he was in France at the time of at least one of the killings. This is the same sort of thing that seems to disqualify the Prince...apparently he was in Scotland at least part of time....but after all these years,who can know for sure where anybody was?
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:58 PM
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8. You're right
I did think that she was just a bit too confident in herself. I mean, she could've maybe admitted that it's possible it was someone else. Couldn't she?

It was a very engrossing read, though.
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Boudicea Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:42 PM
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3. Cornwell is so full of herself ...
I'm surprised she remembered to mention Jack the Ripper at all.
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:58 PM
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9. She has more money than sense...
She bought one of Sickert's most highly regarded paintings for an astronomical sum,just to take it apart looking for clues(DNA?),angering many art fanciers.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:11 PM
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21. She was not even the first to suspect.....
Sickert, but most serious authors and Ripperologists have thoroughly discredited him as a suspect. He is not the Ripper.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:46 PM
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4. James Maybrick
Read "The Diary of Jack the Ripper: the Discovery, the Investigation, the Debate" by Shirley Harrison. Fascinating book. If I had an hour to spare, I could do it justice, but I don't, so I won't. Suffice it to say, it's a very compelling document.
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:55 PM
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7. I forgot about Maybrick...
there were a couple of others..Montague Druitt,for one..that I didn't add either. I'm going to try to get my hands on that book...thanks for the info:)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 04:06 PM
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10. I've always suspected it WAS Druitt....
But a few years ago I saw a program which made a surprisngly good case for a guy whose name I've forgotten. He was a merchant whose business trips to London coincided with the Ripper murders and whose business trip to Chicago coincided with some murders there. His wife killed him; her trial was kept secret and she was not jailed.

Let me also mention Dr. Cream, who could NOT have been the Ripper, but still took the opportunity of his hanging to shout out "I am Jack the R..." as the trap sprung...
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 04:28 PM
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11. My vote is for George Chapman,
he fits the profile in every way except for one..the MO. That rather major discrepency bothers me,but I still like him better than any of the others. I'm surprised that so many picked the Royalty angle.
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:19 PM
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13. Pardon, but speaking of the royalty angle,
what happened to the Duke of Clarence? I've read he was a top suspect, and a very odd sort to boot.
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 07:13 PM
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17. Duke of Clarence
aka "Prince Eddy" died at age 28,cause of death given is pneumonia.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:02 PM
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12. The businessman you speak of is James Maybrick
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:09 PM
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20. Maybrick's diary is a confirmed fake
Google it up
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:26 PM
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14. Prince Eddy of course!
He was apparently as stupid as GWB.
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:50 PM
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24. I wish
Much as I'd like to believe a British Royal did it (talk about your Welfare Queens - that family's been on the dole since the days of Oliver Cromwell), most reputable profilers have concluded it was probably the Polish butcher.

I'm half Irish. I chortle when those upper-class twits are caught doing something naughty. I loved Prince C's "tampon fantasy"!.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 01:07 PM
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26. Polish butcher?
Which suspect would that be? Kosminski was a barber.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:29 PM
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15. Orson Welles...oops...Orson was the Black Dahlia killer
I get confused sometimes
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 07:19 PM
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19. Fools! Don't you know Clinton did it?
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:16 PM
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22. for a great website on the subject, go to......
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:18 PM
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23. a personal book recommendation would be....
The Complete History of Jack the Ripper

by

Philip Sugden
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Samuraimad Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:12 PM
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25. hey, You forgot Bill Clinton!
;-)
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