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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:33 AM
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The New England Patriots: Lucky or Good?
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/040915

Who's feeling lucky?

By Bill Simmons
Page 2

Should they even play the games any more? What's the point? After the Colts self-destructed-again-against the Patriots last week, Mike Vanderjagt said, "They're clearly not a better team than us."

Well, I'm glad that's settled. Too bad we don't score football games like ice skating or gymnastics -- just some judges voting on the best performance. Because that's the only way the Colts could actually beat the Patriots right now. It certainly can't happen on the field, not even with the referees allowing less contact than at a ninth-grade prom.

See, I'm old school. I still think the games are played to figure out which team is better. I know it's crazy. I'm dumb enough to take a 16-game winning streak at face value. I watched every Patriots victory from beginning to end -- a span that stretches to last October, back when Shaq and Kobe were still speaking and Howard Dean still had a career -- and they deserved every one of them. You know why? When the game ended, their score was higher than the other team's. That's the only statistic that matters. At least to me.

If you're breaking out a batch of sour grapes, you'd better have a really good reason. Like that South Korean gymnast who was robbed of Paul Hamm's gold medal, or the 1993 Sonics, 1994 Bulls or 1985 Cards, all of whom who were screwed by comically poor officiating. But to complain about someone's good fortune seems petty to me. Fans have a habit of thinking that one side was fortunate because the other side couldn't get it done ... but what is luck? Was Nick Faldo lucky that Greg Norman shot 78 to blow the 1996 Masters, or does Faldo get credit for shooting the 67 that made Norman skittish in the first place?

Here's a news flash: every champion needs luck. What about the Blazers missing 200 straight shots in Game 7 at the Forum in 2000? Ray Knight's ugly bleeder against Calvin Schiraldi dropping over the second base bag at Shea? Mike Eruzione randomly finding that corner against the Russians at Lake Placid? Should we put an asterisk next to every champion who didn't win decisively? Or should we accept that luck is part of the battle? The best players and teams avoid crippling mistakes, take care of business when it matters ... and always seem to get the big break. That's how you win, whether you're Chris Moneymaker, Chaz Noll's Steelers or Hickory High.

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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:37 AM
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1. It kills me to say this
But you don't win 17 straight games without being an excellent team.

The Pats have defied recent history, coming back from their Super Bowl victory with an even stronger team.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:38 AM
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2. Both.
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 08:39 AM by GOPisEvil
Even with lucky breaks, a team or player has to be good enough to take advantage.

Using the Greg Norman/Nick Faldo story. What if Norman shoots 78, but Faldo shoots a 75? The story would be about Norman's survival and ultimate victory.
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theKnave Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:39 AM
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3. Both. n/t
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:40 AM
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4. just good
incredibLe actuaLLy.

"in biLL we trust" :D
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:45 AM
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5. as a lifetime steelers fan...
i know the difficulty in winning so many games in a row-of course the patriots are an outstanding team. as in the 70's with the steeler teams, every one likes to slam the team on top. imho the patriots have the best coach,also.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:47 AM
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6. They're good! n/t
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:49 AM
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7. Love the Pats...but when do they play the Eagles?
Anyone watch MNF last night?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:50 AM
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8. In the Super Bowl
;)
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 09:03 AM
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12. That's the answer I was looking for!
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:52 AM
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9. They don't have Philly this year
The Pats play the NFC West teams in non-conference.

Eagles were sharp last night. Good enough to lose another NFC Title game in January.
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 09:01 AM
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10. Ouch
Couldn't help but notice that "dolphin" avatar? You still wanna' talk about the Eagles not winning the big one?
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 09:02 AM
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11. Old axiom: The harder and smarter you work. . .
the luckier you get.

:kick:
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