Most hated conspiracy theory?

[SweetZombieJesus]

Other than the "Moon landing was faked" one, the conspiracy theory that I find the most insulting to my intelligence is the one that Tupac isn't dead, a curiously Midwestern conspiracy (I've never heard anyone outside of dumb white kids from Nebraska express this one).

The "evidence" is that he did the whole Makaveli thing or whatever, and I've had more people than I can count say "Duuuude, Makaveli backwards is "I'm Alive!"

Then my head explodes before I can explain to them what morons they are.

[Brucey]

1. Uhm,

How about Clinton is responsible for everything that went wrong?

[SweetZombieJesus]

2. That's not so much a conspiracy theory as a basic tenet of "right wing

thinking". And if that's not an oxymoron, I don't know what is.

Now, the "Vince Foster was murdered!" thing is a conspiracy theory, and a rather stupid one at that.

[Character Assassin]

35. Stupid? Hardly.

Have you read "The Strange Death of Vincent Foster: An Investigation",
by Christopher Ruddy?

Granted, it's still a theory, but one with quite a lot of factual evidence on its side, and hardly stupid.

[thom1102]

37. of Newsmax fame? Well then he get's as much credit as

mAnn Coulter as far as veracity is concerned.

[Character Assassin]

39. BFD, he presents the facts of the case objectively

And points out glaring discrepancies. Your attempt to use his background to counter physical evidences fails. Utterly.

He makes a great case, one that I would consider solid, and I used to be in the business.

[Bunny]

52. By Christopher Ruddy?

You mean Christopher Ruddy of the Pittsburgh Tribune? Dickie Mellon Scaife's rag? Oh, suuuuure, he's credible. Not.

[Character Assassin]

61. What do you know about evidence and conducting investigations?

I happen to know quite a bit, on a professional level, and he presents the evidence from the case with no bias that I can detect.

He isn't jumping up and down screaming "Clinton did it! Clinton did it!", but rather making the case that it wasn't a suicide.

[newyawker99]

23. Congrats Brucey!! 200 posts

:toast:

[Robb]

3. Freemason stuff

I had a guy at work who blamed Freemasons for everything from WWII (and how they "took Hitler to Antartica") to the Roswell landing. Which was astounding since he seemed to know absolutely nothing about Freemasons.

Any theory that uses "that's just how they fool you" as its basic entree. :eyes:

[Khephra]

30. As a Freemason

I'll have to agree with you there.

Sheesh, most people don't even know that you can't even talk about politics or religion in a lodge...that makes it a bit hard to plot to control the world, huh?

[chadm]

56. People aren't talking about "the lodge"

when they talk about this. You might actually be interested in a book called "Rule by Secrecy", Jim Marr. I'm not saying that I agree with it 100% but it certainly raises some questions.

[chadm]

55. Or maybe it is you who knows nothing about the Freemasons...

at least at the highest level.

[grytpype]

4. I lev a kam?

Oh, now I get it. Cool.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

5. That masturbating makes you blind

[Dookus]

10. NMSA

Can you use a larger font? I can't quite read your post.

[Booberdawg]

14. heh

You need glasses too, huh?:7

[Cocoa]

6. various antisemitic ones

just because people should know better.

[nuxvomica]

7. That Vince Foster was murdered

From what I've read, his suicide is too plausible and too much of a morality tale about Washington to be sullied by this nonsense.

[markbark]

13. Especially since...

most of the folks in the "Vince Foster was murdered" camp either say "Who?" or vehemently defend the BFEE whenever J. Clifford Baxter's name is mentioned.

Kinda makes ya go "Hmmmmmmmmm......"


--MAB

[TheRedMan]

48. Well, that and the fact that KEN STARR thought it was a suicide

I mean, I know he was a total Clinton lover who never tried to trump any bit of bull into a federal indictment, but still I think his word is pretty good in this regard.

[PopSixSquish]

8. The Moon Landing is Fake One...

drives me batty!

[TheBigGuy]

9. Nazi UFOs in Antartica

No shit.

Do a google search. Its a hoot.

(on edit, also a great name for maybe a punk or alternative band)

[TheBigGuy]

12. Nazi UFO art.

U-Boats and UFOs....two great taste treats!

[nolabels]

29. Should have gave them the story too, ;-)

This is hilarious, things that dreams are made of :bounce:

http://www.think-aboutit.com/Underground/naziufo_connection.htm
(snip)
I wondered if "Nazo" might have been another name for "Nazi" , but received the impression that they were more than Nazi's, almost like malevolent aliens in 'Nazi' form, or human- alien hybrids that resulted from the Nazi genetic experiments which, according to Vladimir Terziski, has been carried out -- in addition to their mind control and antigravity research -- to at least a ten-fold degree over and beyond the research efforts that were carried out during World War II.

That's all that I remember of that particular 'dream' or 'trip', however I have since pondered over it and believe that, even if it is a product of my own unconscious mind, the experience could hold an element of truth.

First of all, there are many accounts of aliens, particularly of the reptilian variety, who walk among us in human form or guise.

Also, contactee Alex Collier was told by Morenea, a Zenatae from the Andromedan constellation, that many of the eco-political elite on this planet have essentially been "body-snatched" by 5th dimensional draconian walk-ins . Here is another site where these "impostors" are discussed, relating to some famous political figures that may shock you .

There is also an apparent Nazi connection to the Roswell Incident.

Then there are many reports of Nazi 'space' bases on the moon... and Nazi bases under the mountains of Neu Schwabenland, Antarctica...
(snip)

[markbark]

11. Makaveli???

Could they possibly mean Machiavelli?

Perhaps they should be told:
"Duuuuude.... you need to learn history... or at least spelling."


--MAB

[VermontDem2004]

41. Tupac used the name but shortened it and spelt it differently

I am 100% sure he knew the correct spelling of the word, he just put his own spelling into it. It was just another rap name for him.

[markbark]

46. I bow to your superior knowledge of popular culture.....

Jeeze, it's getting harder and harder to keep up for us old farts ;)

Tanx! :hi:


:P:P
--MAB

[Booberdawg]

15. That the Holocaust didn't really happen.

:eyes:

[HawkerHurricane]

18. oooh, can I change mine?

That's the one I hate most too.

One of my granduncles served with a tank destroyer unit in WW2, he has/had PICTURES of one of the camps that he had liberated...says his unit was the 2nd one there; called in to protect the camp...said that if it was faked, they must have shipped in a thousand starving actors...

[Booberdawg]

20. And to think some people still promote this shit after all we know.

[Raenelle]

26. It's worse than that. I read 20% of Americans believe it.

Otherwise known as Whistle Ass' base.

[HawkerHurricane]

16. The CIA, allied with Clinton, smuggled Crack into Arkansas...

The reason they use Arkanas is that either Clinton was an addict, OR Clinton was bribed, OR Clinton was blackmailed because he fooled around on his wife...

The funny thing is, I first heard about the 'Cocaine smuggled in by the CIA into Arkansas' in 1982, before Clinton became govorner...

[Devils Advocate NZ]

21. The interesting part about that theory...

Is that, in full, the theory goes that the Bush family were the ones doing the drug running, and that Clinton was a BFEE stooge who helped cover it up.

It was all part of the CIA (once headed by Bush Snr) run Iran/Contra ploy, but became so profitable that it was split away from it as a means of continuing to make big bucks for the BFEE. Clinton was supposedly connected to the CIA, and it was through this connection that he became involved.

The theory goes that it was reward for his participation, and as a means of ensuring BFEE supremacy, that Clinton was made president.

When you study the WHOLE theory, it does have some internal consistency, and it does seem to explain some unusual things, however, it always strikes me as funny that the people who push it the most often are the ones that support his supposed boss.

The right wingers who point to Mena, Arkansas really don't want you to look too deep into the theory itself because in the end, Clinton turns out to be nothing but a low level flunky of the Bush family, and his crimes were merely to cover up the greater crimes of the Bushes, at least as far as the theory goes.

[ArkDem]

42. Actually, Clinton's brother was convicted, along with a wealthy

Clinton supporter (Dan Lassiter, on cocaine charges. Bill had nothing to do with it but maybe the theory came from this.

[Cheswick2.0]

17. Vince Foster

It was the first time I knew what total loons the far right are.

[zekeson]

19. That Ann Coulter is a man

Ooops, my bad, I thought you said, which Conspiracy Theory is most likely to be TRUE.

:shrug:

[FloridaJudy]

22. That the Clintons had anyone associated with White Water murdered

I get this regularly from Right-Wing cow-irkers. They seem to be able to track down my home E-Mail address with the dedication of bloodhounds. I delete this abomination as soon as I spot it, so I don't have the particulars, but I'm sure you can look it up at http://www.Snopes.com.

That the Holocaust was an invention of the Zionists to generate sympathy for the Jews is a perennial favorite.

And that thing that preports to prove that Birth Control (of whatever variety: pills, condoms, IUDs, vasectomies) is the leading cause of cancer in the United States shows up in my *work* in-box with distressing regularity (that's what I get for working as a Women's Health Nurse-Practitioner).

[Michael Daniels]

44. Any of the Clinton Body Count theories

However, one that gets me really P.O.'ed is that Clinton was responsible for the murders of the three Starbucks employees in Georgetown a few years ago.

The story being that the girl was supposedly scheduled to testify in a hearing dealing with sexual harrassment at the White House and was going to finger Clinton. (Or something in the ballpark).

So, Clinton has a hit done on her at Starbucks and has the hitman pop the two coworkers as well to make it look like a botched robbery.

Granted, all of them are equally B.S. but for some reason this one just really is so off the chart that it's utterly inane that someone could even possibly consider it within the realm of possibility.

[TrogL]

24. Wellstone crash

EMP pulses, laser beams, I dunno

[thom1102]

28. Run for cover!!

or at least grab your flame retardant suit! (I was going to mention this one, but I was worried about the flame war it would start) What scares me is how many intelligent progressives on this board take this one as doctrine.

[chadm]

57. Why is the Wellstone crash conspiracy impossible?

Do you have any proof that it wasn't a right-wing conspiracy?

[TrogL]

25. Bombs in the Towers

I can make an equal argument that they were brought down by the power of prayer and meditation.

[Rich Hunt]

62. WTC theories

A lot of the speculation about the WTC collapse really bothers me, because it is all done by people who know nothing about architecture or structural engineering.

Also, I have little patience for people who study the photos and videos looking for "strange objects" in the sky. Yes, there were military planes and police helicopters all around the WTC that day - you can see them in any of the news specials on the subject.

[Zero Gravitas]

27. So many

Fake Moon Landings
Vince Foster Was Murdered
The "face" on Mars
The Liberal Media

Chem Trails - this one really pisses me off because it shows how mind bogglingly ignorant some people are

the various 9/11 theories from MIHOP to the Pentagon Attack Was Faked and worst of all that the towers were brought down by previously planted demolition explosives :eyes:

[BurtWorm]

31. I nominate for consideration: Cancer Establishment Promotes Cancer

to keep itself in business, which is actually a conspiracy theory pushed by cancer quacks to keep themselves in business. It's designed to dupe sick people into doling out hundreds of dollars for the chance of being saved by oscillating frequencies or floral aromas. The American Cancer Society is included among the alleged villains.

[Character Assassin]

36. Good one. Promoted by total frauds like "Dr." Joel Wallach.

Anything for a fucking buck, it seems.

[BurtWorm]

38. It's such a sad, insidious phenomenon

Very hard to combat it once a person believes it, especially if that person has lost a loved one to cancer.

[chadm]

59. There's some truth in that as well.

When a healthcare establishment profits from poor health its policies naturally tend to cause poor health. Remember, systems encourage behaviours depending upon what they reward.

A great example of this is the whole low-carb thing. For years, the American healthcare establishment perpetuated the high-carb, low-fat diet which served the processed foods industry (more profitable to seel flour than meat or cheese) at the expense of an increasingly obese public. Of course that really didn't bother the healthcare estabishment because it led to more revenue.

[Hubert Flottz]

32. ENRON/CHENEY Fleecing California!

That's the one Repubs and the SEC don't want to talk about though!

[RandomKoolzip]

33. Some people still believe Paul McCartney died in 1966.

I love all that "Paul is Dead" stuff, but as a lark; there are guys (I've met 'em) who actually buy it. Sad.

Also, LaRouche's contention that the Queen of England is a Drug Pusher, that the Grateful Dead were agents of British Intelligence...hell, anything Larouche ever said, really.

Hmmm...there's also that stupid Satanic Ritual Abuse bullshit that gets brought up every six years or so. Remember the McMartin Trial?There's some people who still think there's somethin' to it.

[Kolesar]

34. Vintage Mad Magazine verse

Ringo, Paul, George and John
Played a trick and put us on
Dropped hints Paul was dead as nails
And rocketed their record sales

I was so young when I read it that my brother had to explain it to me. It has stuck in my head since then. I hope I remember it in another thirty years.

[nedlogg]

40. Dumbing down Americans.

Corporate America influencing the government to keep Americans uneducated and stupid so they can justify outsourcing jobs to smarter (and cheaper) workers.

Oh sorry, this is not a conspiracy theory, it's really happening.

[Booberdawg]

43. That Clinton's mighty penis is to blame for the country's problems

[Leftist78]

45. got one

I'm not sure if it qualifies, but I have a Father-in-law that gave me a book claiming that UU's are actually a secret liberal cabal bent on bringing socialism to America through any means at their disposal.

I suspect he gave me the book because I'm a UU. All I want to know is how the guy who wrote that book managed to get into our secret meetings. That damn book could ruin all our plans. :evilgrin:

[Rich Hunt]

64. LOL.

The UU one is hilarious.

Some of the Christian ones are really funny - everything is a Satanic symbol - like the Procter & Gamble logo.

----

There's one flake on Usenet who links a whole bunch of conspiracy theories from the sixties together - like Charles Manson, the CIA, the Nazis all involved in the Kennedy assassinations.

[ScreamingMeemie]

47. That secondhand smoke causes a myriad of health problems.

Ducking for cover...Before you flame me, make sure you don't drive a car, live near an industrial city, or deal with smog on a daily basis.

[TheRedMan]

49. I'm split between Chemtrails, the bomb in the WTC, and Alternative Medicin

Let me clarify the alternative medicine one. It's not that i hate people thinking acupuncture relieves pain, or chriopractic can fix back problems. I am referring to people thinking doctors are just poisoning them with antibiotics, all the food in grocery stores contains toxins that are slowly poisoning you, and that conventional medicine is just a scam for drug companies, and that doctors are brainwashed into ignoring the real cures, so they instead spend fortunes helping FAKE drug companies make loads of money off them. Much of this goes into the outright conspiracy theory zone, charging that "Western Medicine" knows the truth and refuses to let it out, and that they are silencing alternative medicine practioners. (Dr. Lorraine Day is a great example, especially since she indulges herself in other conspiracy theories named here). I won't go so far as to lump in the "*INSERT ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE HERE* fixes the cause, western medicine treats the symptoms" crowd because there is a certain logic to it, though I don't believe it holds up to scrutiny. But there is almost a religon to alternative medicine now, and it drives me crazy how they really think there is a vast conspiracy to shut them out.

I have a number of good friends and some in-laws who are doctors, and knowing the dedication they have to doing ANYTHING to help people's lives, and hearing them so casually and deeply slandered by a lay audience makes me incredibly angry.

This is akin to the crowd that says science is too close-minded to accept any sort of revolutionary thought that upsets their equilibrium, inspite of the open-arms welcome science affording revolutionaries like Galileo, Newton, and Einstein. (I would remind those whose eyebrows arched at Galileo that the Church did him in) Especially since they have never been to an American Physical Society conference where even the nuttiest crackpot is given voice. The fact is that science (pure, applied, or medical) welcomes and even seeks out innovation, but it places heavy requirements on proof. And proof is such a sticky thing.

Remember, there is a million dollar check from James Randi waiting for the first person to have ESP...

[Lydia Leftcoast]

50. The rumor that

"all the Jews" were told to stay away from their jobs in the World Trade Center on 9/11.

My mother actually repeated this to me, and I asked her, "Do you think there's some massive phone tree for all the thousands and thousands of Jews in the New York area?"

Not to mention the fact that plenty of Jews, like plenty of every other religious, racial, ethnic, and national group, were killed that day.

But I even saw someone repeat this rumor on DU back in 2001.

[Fozzledick]

51. Four lone nuts & 200 lying witnesses

The official cover stories for the Kennedy and King assasinations strike me as much more complex conspiracy theories than the obvious assumption that they were killed by their political enemies inside the government, some of whom were experienced professional assassins.

The official stories maintain that four lone nuts with ties to the CIA, FBI and Mafia spontaneously acted alone, that all the eyewitnesses were lying, and that Newton's laws of motion don't apply to U.S presidents. :eyes:

[ProfessorGAC]

53. Wrong!

I have it on good authority (George W. Bush, himself) that Newton's Laws don't apply to presidents. As a matter of fact, his very actions prove that NO laws apply to the president. Apparently.
The Professor

Kidding, of course. I'm with you on this.

[JVS]

54. Protocols of the Elders of Zion/ Z.O.G. theory

[chadm]

58. Now that one is interesting

Whether or not it was a hoax, reading a document written in the 1800's that accurately describes the political and socio-economic developments of today raises a few questions for this curious mind.

Was it intended as a blueprint for the ruling class, or just taken that way and become self-fulfilling prophecy?

Regardless, that document caused more destruction in the world than any other document...perhaps other than The Bible.

[chadm]

60. I guess the purpose of this thread isn't to actually discuss the theories

just to mindlessly discredit them because they annoy you, right?

OK. Then none of them are true.

[Kamika]

63. that 911 wasnt al quaida

I find that pretty insulting to my intelligence, when ppl suggest it was the bush junta, mossad etc etc.

We dont like Bush but some ppl has to get a clue

[maveric]

65. Al Queida probably did it but Bu$h/PNAC, LIHOP