Does anyone else think this election was fixed?

[the Princess]

I mean Dean had the momentum - Kerry was out of gas and then the media systematically destroyed Dean and brought Kerry into the fold. I didn't even like him - and all of a sudden he was a front runner?????

Then the way he just gave up - it feels dirty to me.

[Wat_Tyler]

1. No. I don't think John Kerry was a stooge.

[craiga86]

2. The fix

that I believe happened in the diebold machines. No way higher turnout benefits Bush, especially in highly democratic counties.

[spatlese]

11. I agree with you!

I hate Diebold.. and their stock went up right before the elections too! That's a sure sign, IMHO.

[PittLib]

3. .

:tinfoilhat:

[7th_Sephiroth]

4. its cause thier skull and bones frat buddies

S&B has waaay too much power

[pagerbear]

5. The media were doing what they always do

Deciding which candidates we'd have to choose from.

[HEyHEY]

6. No - it just happened this way

[Pig_Latin_Lover]

7. In Florida, definitely.

In Ohio... possibly...

John Kerry may concede defeat, but I sure as hell want those votes counted and investigated. And then I want something done.

[jdots]

8. could be we'll find out

i tend to forgive but not forget.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

9. No I don't think it was fixed in that regard

Karl Rove simply played the old Nixonian southern strategy script with Gays acting the part of African Americans.

[Beware the Beast Man]

13. The new Willie Hortons.

:argh: It's going to be a long 4 years...

[Beware the Beast Man]

10. Honestly, no.

I hate to admit it, but Scrub won by pandering to the fear of the Joe Blow citizen. And it fucking worked. :grr:

[soothsayer]

Welcome to the New World Order

[Big Kahuna]

12. I'm starting to think that myself.

This whole thing reeks.

[Gloria]

14. Randi Rhodes JUST said it was rigged...more subtley than in 2000

She ran down a list of "impediments" and I think she is right.

[NV Whino]

15. Without a doubt

And you are the first person to pick up on just when it started.

Edit: typo

[kikiek]

16. I'm with the Diebold machines being fixed. Exit polls way off again.

The only explanation is the machines.

[smiley_glad_hands]

17. Not Kerry, maybe BBV. eom

[JimmyJazz]

18. I think the left got kicked in the teeth on the gay marriage ban

what a fucking crock of cold shit. Let's make sure the gays can't marry and make doubly sure I get to keep my gun! <heavy sarcasm> Fuckers. We have a 60% divorce rate in this country now - but, if we let gays join us in all of this, it will undermine "natural marriages." Fuck the right wing neo-cons and fuck all the church going people who bash gays, but have all of their grandchildren born out of wedlock! I'm a little bit pissed right now, in case you hadn't noticed. I usually apologize for my rants, but not this time.

I still love ya though, S.

D

[Misunderestimator]

19. Yes, I think it was fixed, and though I'm disappointed with Kerry giving

up so quickly, I sincerely do not believe that he intended to lose. It's the electronic voting that got us in the end. They couldn't get away with as much disenfranchisement as they did in 2000 because we were prepared this time and positioned lawyers and poll-watchers and volunteers in the most likely-to-be-abused polling sites. Unfortunately, no one was EVER able to get it through to anyone that we needed a paper trail, a method to recount. Now we are lost. And now that aspect alone must be challenged and resolved before the next election, or we lose again.

All in all, I think that Kerry is a good man. I trust and hope that he will continue to serve us honorably as a senator.

[bearfan454]

20. I do.

Kerry should have won.

[Atlas Mugged]

21. Well...

...duh.

[johnnie]

22. I'll say

Some of the numbers just don't seem right. As for how large of a tin foil hat I want to put on, I don't think it is too large.

[Maiden England]

23. The media did call it for Kerry when he won Iowa

that's all I'm saying.

[bloom]

24. I think it is possible.

Watching some of the Kerry history shows - it looked like being president could have been a long term goal.

But I couldn't help but notice - how sincere and driven he came across in his younger days. He used to be so eloquent - almost like Lincoln or something.

I didn't feel like he still cared as much.


:hangover:

[CO Liberal]

25. The Longer I Listen to Randi Rhodes....

...the more I'm convinced that we were screwed. The fix was in...

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

26. Actually, I don't.

Not this time. This is what people want. Obviously I'm not in tune with the other half of America, but they've spoken.

[FarLeftRage]

27. This thing was definitely fixed

You are quite correct on this one.