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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:03 PM
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Who likes Russian/Jewish/Slavic food?
I'm getting such a mad craving for kasha all of a sudden. And I'm not pregnant, I swear!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:12 PM
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1. I rather like "Bush legs," cabbage soup, and borsch
I also rather enjoy a thing that looks like perogie (sp) but is ground meat in side.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:19 PM
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2. Don't some perogi have ground meat in side?
Edited on Tue Sep-16-03 12:59 PM by BurtWorm
My Ukrainian mother used to make vereniki, which were like perogi, but doughier. They were filled with potato, and you'd eat them with sour cream, dill, and fried onion.
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:22 PM
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3. Russian food :drool:
Being half Russian, I crave my grandmother's stuffed cabbage, borsht, blintzes, perogies, etc. Too bad I never learned how to make all that when she was alive. Of course being a vegetarian now, I'd have to be pretty creative in order to make a lot of it anyway.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:23 PM
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4. You could eat the potato versions of everything.
And I'm sure there are a lot of potato versions of everything.
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:59 PM
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13. True, except the stuffed cabbage
it's not quite the same without the meat. I suppose I could use a veggie meat substitute though.

BTW, my grandmother made her borsht with cabbage not beets. Little dab of sour cream on top - omg! I could eat it every day!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:03 PM
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15. Teresa's, a Polish restaurant in Brooklyn Heights
makes something called white borscht, cabbage based, creamy, tangy, peppery, potato-y hot soup with kielbasa slices in it. Great with black bread and Okocim beer.
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:09 PM
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18. That's probably the proper name for it
"white borscht" though I never knew it any other way. I've never had beet borscht (would that be "red borscht") in fact I only discovered there was such a thing when I was in my 20's. I saw some cooking program or something and I was like wtf? Beets?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:11 PM
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19. Jewish borscht is always beets
and sour cream mixed completely so it's actually pink.

I only knew red borscht growing up. With a dollop of sour cream on top and a sprig of dill.
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:15 PM
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21. Aha! DU is so educational :-)
I did not know that about Jewish borscht. I'll have to try it sometime. It will be tough to "beat" ;-) my cabbage borscht though!
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:30 AM
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42. That is called chlodnik (ie.'the cold one')
and you have to add extra dill and thinly sliced cucumber
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 08:28 PM
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36. Zurek! I love that too!
Sour soup with egg. White borsch. Tastes like the soup my Polish grandmother used to make... :9
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:55 AM
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45. If you're ever in London, check out the 'Bigos' at the Daquise
restaurant in South Kensington: it's a 'huntsman's stew' of smoked garlick sausage/pastrami/lamb cooked with wild mushrooms (porcini/ceps), sauerkraut and onion. If your gastro-intestinal tract can handle it, follow up with 'sledzie' - marinated roll mop herrings with/without sour cream and chives. A bottle of Zywiec beer and/or a quick gulp of Zubrowka vodka should clean the palate in time for a slice of 'makowiec' - brioche cake lined with a thick layer of cooked poppyseeds/honey/spice. Or go for the obvious - 'sernik' - a cooked cheesecake with lemon and sultanas. Finish with a glass of 'wisniowka' - polish cherry vodka.

NB if Daquise is closed, there's always 'Ognisko' in nearby Exhibition Road, located in the basement of the Anglo-Polish Conservative Club (ok, the photos of Pilsudski and Cardinal Ratzinger might put you off your appetite! quite apart from the politics of the staff...) but the upside is its got a £5 eat all you can menu, similar to the Daquise)
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:35 PM
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5. Kishkas Should Hit The Spot
Cholesterol be damned
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:40 PM
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6. i like vodka
does that count?
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:53 PM
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9. That's the automatic seal of approval!
Na zdorovya! ;)
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:42 PM
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7. Well articulated Russian and Eastern European Food
is some of the best stuff in the world (excepting mama's homecooked Italian, but mum's are always an exemption, no?)

I especially enjoy the meats and pastries of Prague. I adore kasha, and vereniki and pierogies. Nummy!

And caviar, and the dark red style of preparing tea in Russian cuisine....
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:00 PM
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14. you are obviously one of the blessed multitudes
who have never been subjected to my mother's cooking...love you, ma, but I'll take it from here.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:51 PM
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8. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Wow... Just had the best pel'meni last night with home-made kielbasa grilled over charcoal.

After tomorrow night, it's shashlik... lamb is marinating as we speak... mmmm with boiled potatoes, sliced onions and Russian sour cream


Marinated grybi

Zdrastvuyte Tovarishchi!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:58 PM
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12. Stop it! You're making me drool! You're making my stomach growl!


Zdrastvuyte!

:hi:
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chenGOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:54 PM
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10. I do.....
my arteries don't though. :)


But yeah my best friend in junior high/high school was a Serbian. Damn did his mom ever cook some great food. The homemade brandy that his relatives would send over was mighty powerful too...

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 03:57 PM
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31. Congrats chenGOD!! 400 posts
:toast:
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:58 PM
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11. I hardly know any dishes from there to comment.
Except beef stroganoff, which we make regularly, and matzo ball soup, which we rarely make.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:04 PM
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16. German, Austrian, and Czech
are as close as I've come. Oh yeah, the occasional caviar is nice.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:05 PM
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17. I'll eat any slavic food except kasha.
Edited on Tue Sep-16-03 01:07 PM by bif
It's like eating wallpaper paste.AHHHH!!!!!! But I make the best potato pancakes. My Polish Grandma (Busha) showed me how. Gotta serve 'em with sour cream and paprika.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:14 PM
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20. It's just buckwheat!
You lie buckwheat pancakes?
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:16 PM
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22. Never had them.
Maybe it was the way they were prepared. But it was horrible.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:29 PM
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23. Trust me. It was the way they were prepared.
;)
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:05 PM
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24. It tasted like gruel
It was a long time ago. I think he may have used soy sauce in the preperation. It was just this big mound of totally unappetizing looking stuff. And the consistancy was a bit like grits. Another food I just don't see the point of.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:49 PM
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27. Oh no! Soy sauce!
In kasha?!

:puke:
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:34 AM
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43. Yep, kasha is disgusting:
buckwheat groats fried in pig's lard. I'm sure the UN human rights charter has something about 'cruel and unusual'?????
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:14 PM
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25. Looking forward to Rosh Hashanah
so I can have noodle kugel and all the trimmings!

LOVE matzah ball soup!!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:56 PM
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30. Mmmmatzoh ball soup!
I've been going to a place called Artie's Delicatessen on Broadway and 83rd. They make damn good matzoh ball soup. Great pastrami too. And pickles--half sours to die for. (Truth is, Artie's is not anywhere near as good as the ones on Second Avenue on the Lower East Side. But we make do with what we have.)
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 04:22 PM
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33. Ummm.....be thankful you have good delies..you
could be in St Louis where the bagles are more like rolls with holes in them. Let's not even talk about the so called delies...oy vey! It's a shonda!
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elcondor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 08:48 PM
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40. LOL, I'm at college in a very un-Jewish town . ..
Gonna have to figure out how to get my hands on some kugel for Rosh Hashanah! :-)

Yum, I love Jewish food! My grandmother (who isn't Jewish but loves the food anyway) and I used to make matzoh ball soup from scratch.
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DifferentStrokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:35 PM
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26. The secret of kasha
It's what East European women use to keep those fabulous complexions. The minute those tiny little red blood vessels make an appearance around the nose or on the legs, out comes the kasha. Buckwheat pancakes are nice, but kasha prepared with egg to keep the grains separate is also good. Kasha also makes a good stuffing if you know the old recipies. If you let it turn into a tasteless glue it's your own fault.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:52 PM
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28. Hear! Hear!
And if anyone thinks you're making a joke about Russian beauties, they haven't seen many Russian women.
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scarlet_owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:56 PM
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29. I just gotta have..
tzimmes with potato knaidle. I think I can eat my weight in brisket. My mom makes the best matzo ball soup and I make one mean honey cake!
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 04:18 PM
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32. Halupsi, Galupsis, however it's spelled...
Cabbage rolls stuffed with meat and rice, stewed in tomato sauce and served with sour cream...
They're actually better reheated the next day...

YUM!
The only thing I miss about my ex-wife....
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:39 AM
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44. They're called 'golombki' - ie little pidgeons
and you have to use white cabbage, not the green, crinkly stuff...
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 04:19 PM
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46. Here's some recipes!
My mother makes them sometimes, but I'm not that enamored of hers.:-(

Tyler Florence's sounds authentic, but not difficult. Martha Stewart's (she's Polish, BTW) sounds the most like my Polish grandmother's, but adding apples at the end is a new one on me.:shrug:

http://web.foodnetwork.com/food/web/searchResults?searchString=cabbage+rolls&site=FOOD&searchType=Recipe&GoSearch.x=12&GoSearch.y=10

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DifferentStrokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 07:40 PM
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34. Recipes for kasha
If I might suggest, a collection of old and new. Something in here should satisfy your craving.

Or maybe create some new ones that you didn't have until now.:-)

http://www.thebirkettmills.com/recipes/recipes_2003.htm

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 08:43 PM
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39. Thank you!
We had Wolff's kasha tonight. My wife was planning to make it independent of my craving for it. Spooky, eh?
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 08:11 PM
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35. Omigoddess
I have SUCH a craving for Matzoh balls, Knishes and Kreplach!!

Can you tell I'm Russian?

Can you tell I'm Jewish?

Can you tell I've been on Atkins for four weeks? I've lost ten pounds, and would KILL for a bagel, lox, and cream cheese!

WASPs have it easy. Their food tastes lousy in the first place; it's no big deal to give it up. We ethnic types have to really fight the siren lure of our families' favorite carbohydrates!



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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 08:42 PM
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38. Congratulations!
And sorry!
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 08:33 PM
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37. Too much meat, too little taste!
Some cuisines are not meant for vegetarian chili-heads, and the three you list are of that sort.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 06:02 AM
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41. I wish for pirogies.. Not the frozen kind,
the kind that my grandmother used to make. I swear I'm not pregnant, either. If I was, the smell of frying butter would make me...
:puke:
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 07:34 PM
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50. I love pirogies too
I usually eat the frozen kind for convience though.
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 06:25 PM
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47. Russian food
I love so much of the Russian culture, the vodka, the food, the language. I really like borscht, stuffed cabbages/ peppers, and i especially love this white cheese that tastes like a cross between farmer's and cottage cheese. I finally learned how to make it, and could just eat it all the time. ochen b'kycha. :beer:
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 06:29 PM
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48. Jerry's famous Deli (the one near La Cienaga) in LA, baby!
Kreplach, anyone?
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 07:06 PM
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49. My German/Danish grandmother made the best
Pirogies, from scratch. Oh, I miss them so. and her even more.

My ex-wife, a russian/jewish woman, had a mom that could cook like no tomorrow. Totally fattenned me up in my 20's. Took until my 30's to lose the weight. (Divorce and booze helped too).
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 04:55 AM
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51. What kind of pirogies?! I want to imagine them! LOL!
My Polish grandmother made the best I ever will have. The filling was kapusta (sauerkraut). I understand that the potato filling is the Russian. I miss them, too, along with my grandmother. Sorry about your divorce.:-(
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