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Section_43 Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:11 AM
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GD!!! The Pretenders first album circa 1980...
I am listening to this for the first time in ages. Goddamn! How soon we forget great transitions in music! Overlooked beyond compare. Overlooked in my CD collection as well.

Shit!

The Phone Call
Up The Neck...on & on.

If you own it, put it on now! Tell me this rant is misguided.

p.s. Damn fine coffee/wake up soundtrack!
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:14 AM
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1. "Precious" - one of the best openers on a debut album EVER
IMHO.

I got that album when it came out in 1980 and loved it at first hear.

Must.....get.....CD.

Thanks for the kicker!
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Section_43 Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:18 AM
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3. Thanks,
I intended to list Precious, but there are so many! Not one weak song! I used to work for a band (running lights) and they did a cover of "Precious" - it was always a show stopper for them.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:18 AM
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2. tattooed love boys.
their best album!!!
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:26 PM
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4. I saw the video to "Kid" on VH1 a few nights ago
They were brilliant. (Too bad half of them died.);(
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:30 PM
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8. feh
what's up with "were"?

Check out last year's release Loose Screw. The band still is kick-ass.
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:44 PM
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14. "Loose Screw" kicks!
I highly recommend it to Pretenders fans who thought they were "done"."
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musiclawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:48 PM
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5. Didn't Ray Davies and Chrisie have a chid together.
Kid must be a musical genetic freak. Wonder if he's a musician.
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 02:19 PM
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6. She has a daughter with him as well as with Jim Kerr
of Simple Minds. Yeah I bet SHE's a really great musician. Incidentally, her first child was born around the the time "Learning to Crawl" (yet another amazing album) was released, which might have something to do with the title.

Chrissie was also supposed to "marry" Sid Vicious and/or Johnny Rotten in order to get around immigration laws in England, but it never ended up a happening.
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:33 PM
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9. not exactly accurate
her first daughter was by Ray Davies, but earlier than you imply. On the Learning to Crawl tour, she was married to Jim Kerr (Simple Minds opened for Pretenders on at least part of that tour) and she was pregnant with her second daughter at the time.

I saw them twice at Red Rocks on that tour.

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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:43 PM
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10. I stand by my statement and so does the BBC
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 04:02 PM by SiouxJ
". .. The Pretenders then set out on a US tour. Chrissie took her baby daughter with her and motherhood was reflected in the title of their third album, Learning to Crawl (1984). Chrissie then met and married the next of her famous consorts, Jim Kerr of Simple Minds. Another daughter was born shortly after."

More:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/later/artists/hootenanny/hoot/chrissie_biog.shtml

I remember it vividly too. I saw them on that tour as well. I was even lucky enough to meet her backstage on the follow up tour ("Get Close"). That may have been the one where she was pregnant with Kerr's daughter as she wasn't quite up to par. Oh and I just saw them last year too. She still kicks ass! There will never be another Chrissie.

Nice to meet another Pretenders fan.

on edit: did a little more research as you got me thinking. You are correct that she met and married Kerr during the LTC tour. But my original statement stands. Guess it depends on what your definition of "around the time" is.
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:32 PM
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12. I was also
off doing research. Apparently her first daughter was born 1983, but I don't know what month. Weirdly, I couldn't find anything at all on when her second was born; I did find a reference to one being 15, the other 13, but that's all pretty vague. That was from a 1998 story.


Let's say we're both right, since we're both only doing ballpark time frames.

:hi:
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:42 PM
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13. Well yeah and besides
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 04:43 PM by SiouxJ
if you had any fun at all in the 80's your memory of the decade should be shot. I know mine is. I'm always second guessing my memories from back then - lol I went to about a show a week from about 1982 until 1989, so it's all kind of a blur (not "vivid" at all to be honest ;-) )

It was fun thinking back on it though.

:hi:


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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:46 PM
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11. "Red Rocks". Man I miss that place.
Lived in Denver for the 80's (1981-89). Saw several great shows, but not the Pretenders. (Dire Straits was the best of the ones I saw)
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:33 PM
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15. Simple Minds / Pretenders Tour
That was the summer of 1984, IIRC.
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:28 PM
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7. FORGOT?
WTF? How could you "forget" that album?

If two months go by and I haven't played everything I own by Prtenders, something is wrong in my world.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:41 PM
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16. Hee Hee .. I had the same reaction
I grew up the youngest of 5 kids, and until the age of 17 or so, everything I ever heard was handed down to me by my elder siblings, who didn't take it too kindly when I started getting into the experimental & punk/new wave stuff.

One day, I saw a cool looking cassette at the local library and brought it home, put it on, and was digging it until Big Brother #1 came home and threatened to beat the crap out of me if I didn't take "that shit" off of his stereo. That shit was Talking Heads Fear of Music. Brother #2 made fun of me when I tried to listen to B-52s.

And then one day I saw Chrissie Hynde looking cool as all get out on a record rack. The day I brought that home and heard "Precious" was the day I told my brothers and everyone else to fuck off if they didn't like what I was into.

It was an incredibly liberating album, especially for women.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:50 PM
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17. "Precious"
I was feeling kind of ethereal cause I'm precious
I had my eye on your Imperial cause I'm precious
Now Howard the Duck and Mr Stress both stayed,
trapped in a world that they never made
But not me, baby, I'm too precious, had to fuck off . . .
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:55 PM
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18. I had an ENORMOUS crush on James Honeman Scott--
hearing "Back on the Chain Gang" still makes me weep, though maybe now it is for my lost youth . . .
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 08:15 PM
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19. Yeah, I know how you feel
I mean about getting lump in my throat hearing that stuff, not so much that I had a crush on the guitar player. I'm a guy, after all.

Did Nick Lowe produce "Back on the Chain Gang"? I think it was his production that made that first album so totally, well, totally kick-ass!
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