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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:01 PM
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Hurricane Isabel
Hey friends, those who are in her path please becareful and let us know you're OK!
We all will be thinking and praying for you and your families.

Today here in Florida's Space Coast
we've had lots of rain and a steady wind from another storm
from a upper trough moving across the state

http://www.floridatoday.com/topstories/091703wx.htm

and this was in the paper also


http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/H/HURRICANE_ISABEL?SITE=FLROC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Stay Safe Friends! :hi:



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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:07 PM
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1. In Northeast FLorida
There are 15 ft waves crashing up against the seawalls and people surfing all over the place.
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:39 PM
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7. Hi Nicholas_J and All
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 05:48 PM by Crewleader
I know the waves have been something here and the beach erosion at the jetty has been very heavy,and this was from the outskirts of Isabel. All the cruise ships are gone and the smaller gambling ships are in port, missing out on business since last night.

This was our dilemma...

We've been working on our fiberglass swimming pool refinishing it and just got it painted in time before all this rain and my pool was completely empty and now is half full of rain water, that's alot of liquid in a short time. Luckily the paint was dry enough but I pumped it out once and need to do it again soon.

That's what is bad about hurricanes besides the wind is the flooding. On my vacation visiting my sister this past summer, her house is near a cove but waterview of Crescent Beach three sides of her house. When Hurricane Bob in the early nineties came through, her house was on wooden stilts so her house was saved where others floated away.
Now the insurance companies and county requirements is rebuild them on concrete stilts and after twenty years not seeing the place I was just amazed to see all these houses up in the air, some very tiny cottages so high up but that's how they dealt with their disaster.

In my area alone and throughout Florida how much the rates have gone up, it really is a monopoly for the insurance companies to raise rates, drop you and put into a pool and wait for one that accepts ya.
I am in the middle of that myself being a long time customer of Allstate they were leaving Florida with their policies not being renewed so they said. I'm under another when all this was going on in the middle of doing my pool. Just as Hurricane Isabel was starting to stir my new insurance
came out to take pictures and said you need water in the pool to be insured regardless of seeing it being refinished. I couldn't believe it but understood the empty part but it was the timing with one hurricane rolling across the Atlantic. Yes I was lucky it didn't come this way and as soon as we can get the pool filled with water I'll have the insurance come out and take a picture, right now it's full of rain water and that should count. :D

The insurance companies have you coming and going but we have no choice but to pay but with a less favoring corporation adminstration we will be so much better off to be able to afford the insurance coverage to deal with any storm.

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playahata1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 09:36 AM
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28. Nick, where are you?
Jacksonville? Fernandina Beach? St. Augustine? Palm Coast?
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:09 PM
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2. Thanks
We're only going to get brushed by the hurricane in Philly, but there's still an inland Tropical Storm Wind Warning up...and a Flood Watch.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:58 PM
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10. Latest Reports
Still call for 6 to 10 inches of rain plus high winds in PA. I understand the summer has been wet and there's a real possibility for heavy flooding.

Break out the Scuba gear and UPS your computer to yourself.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:11 PM
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3. Thanks, Crew
I hope the storm is waning for you guys now. The winds are expected to pick up tonight with rain starting about midday tomorrow. This area (Phila.) is expected to get 4-5 inches of rain and wind gusts exceeding 50 MPH.

That's not bad compared to what it could have been.

Good to see you. :loveya:
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:45 PM
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8. read #7 Monica_L
I hope it weakens and not much happens but everyone be prepared, hurricanes are so dangerous and alot of folks make mistakes and step outside in the middle of the eye thinking it's over with and it comes back around just as furious and even stronger. I've been through a few of them myself, my first was Hurricane Donna, I was 6 watched my tree go the other way instead of on my house in 1960 in the city of New Bedford, Ma...so even with taller buildings there's no stopping it and I wonder how DC will take it if it's in it's path like they are saying.

You becareful Monica_L and your family! :loveya:
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:59 PM
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11. The first one I remember was Hurricane Agnes
back in the early 1970's. I remember the Schuylkill river overflowing its banks and covering several major roadways with downed power lines and trees all along where there used to be cars. My parents took us to the park when it was safely over to see the damage and those images are still with me.

Sorry to hear about your insurance woes. Allstate is the absolute worst but none of them are very good. You're right, they have us all where they want us, paying through the nose only to get dropped at a moment's notice.

We'll be careful. I think I'll spend the rest of the night in the basement putting boxes of ornaments and other valuables up high just in case of flooding. I hope there aren't any more spiders down there, especially relatives of the one I killed the other day. :scared:
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 06:06 PM
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12. Bravo Monica_L
You are tougher then any spider, truly they are more afraid of us except that aggressive brown one that got me in the arm...make alot noise so they run first..and get your son to help you...I do all the time lately with home school it works out that way anyway! :-)

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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:43 AM
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48. I remember Donna!
She came by us but didn't hit. I was a wee tot. :hi:
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:13 PM
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4. Here in Maryland...
we're expecting mass power outages. I don't expect I'll be on here much for quite a while.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:19 PM
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5. me, either
i'm in downtown baltimore in view of the inner harbor; news heads just announced probable MTA (trains, light rail, buses) will stop running tomorrow at 4:30 p.m., which means that you can get to work but not home.
all amtrak trains south have been canceled, too.
also, the artifacts from harpers ferry have been moved to safety, and most schools in the entire state have already closed for the next two days.
the dollar store was great for candles and battery-powered radios! no crowds there!
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Ivory_Tower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:37 PM
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6. Just outside of DC
near Greenbelt.

NASA/Goddard is shutting down tomorrow evening, and my office will powering off our computers tomorrow afternoon. I'll probably be shutting down my home equipment tomorrow morning before I leave for work.

Put the lawn furniture in the shed and bungied the garbage cans to the fence. Need to bring the musical instruments up from the basement -- when the power goes out, the sump pumps will stop running, so I'll have one lovely indoor swimming pool by Friday afternoon. Sigh.

Hopefully the trees out back won't be knocked over. They're frickin' huge, and that's the last thing I need.

Oh, if anyone wants to watch landfall on radar:

http://weather.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p20-r/si.kmhx.shtml

You can navigate around and get national views, still images, a variety loops, etc.
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:52 PM
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9. yes Darranar that's another thing going without power
is just hard...generators are so handy to have but expensive and when hurricanes are coming prices even go up more....hope everyone is ready and have supplies...

keep us informed folks when you can....like I said hopefully it weakens more and
doesn't keep you out of power at all or not too long anyway!
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:34 AM
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13. The Latest On Hurricane Isabel
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 05:55 AM by Crewleader
Isabel Begins Moving Ashore In NC

Looks like flooding may be a problem as it moves forward inland...
hopefully it won't be the case but yesterday we sure got alot of rain from just the outter rings of Isabel.http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/H/HURRICANE_ISABEL?SITE=FLROC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT



Good Luck TO Those In It's Path...:hi:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:00 AM
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16. I'm typing with my water wings on now ask me anything!
I'm gonna get my tinfoil kite out!
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:05 AM
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18. OMG Hubert you're on water friend
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 06:07 AM by Crewleader
You be careful and I'm praying for you and your family. I doubt the fish are biting so stay inside and be safe friend! Or do have to leave your home away from the water incase of flooding?

Be safe friend! :hi:
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:53 AM
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14. NYC- Incredibly wide circulation- high clouds already "turning" here
around the eye. The massive scale and power of this system is just incredible.

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/browse3.html
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:55 AM
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15. Beach cams here..
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:03 AM
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17. Thanks good link SoCalDem
Just a few days OK it was massively strong and now over warmer waters and hitting those barriers islands can be very brutal....at any number we had a one here Hurricane Erin take my screen room down in 96.

I hope precautions were taken since the length of warnings but their are those who are standing it out on those barrier islands afraid of raiding and losing their stuff with vandalism, alot easier then losing your life over material things...
they may have insurance woes like me right now...
tough situation to be in for sure.

Thanks again! :hi:
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:54 AM
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19. Hatteras stats at 7:30
73°F Heavy Rain and Windy Feels Like
Dew Point: 73°F
Humidity: 100%
Visibility: 0.8 miles
Pressure: 29.31 inches and falling
Wind: From the North Northeast at 28 gusting to 43 mph WHOAA! These wind directions indicate the storm could be passing towards the eastern edge of the projected tracks-that would be BAD news for the Chesapeake!

http://www.weather.com/weather/local/USNC0301?lswe=hatteras&lswa=WeatherLocalUndeclared&whatprefs=
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:25 AM
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27. Hatteras at 9:10
Fog and Windy (??? MUST BE AN OUTER EYE WALL PASSING THRU)
73°F
Humidity: 94%
Visibility: 1.0 mile
Pressure: 29.14 inches and falling
Wind: From the East Northeast at 35 gusting to 47 mph (SAME LINK AS ABOVE)
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nannygoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:06 AM
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20. Chapel Hill, NC here
We're experiencing some wind and light rain. I heard a commentator say that although Isabel hasn't made landfall yet the rain and winds in the Triangle are due to Isabel's rain bands. That's some big storm!

Take care, everybody!
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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:27 AM
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22. Outside of Carrboro, here
rain has just started within the past hour - looking at the satellite images on weather channel shows that it's Isabel-related. Still no local weather gods talking about tornadoes from this like we had with Fran, which is a good thing. RDU airport has gone ahead and closed for some reason or other - weird, given light weather conditions at present. Lots of local business closed. Orange County (Chapel Hill, Carrboro, Hillsborough) Government closing at noon in anticipation of bad things. I'll be around DU until the cable goes out. Er, uh... "ask me anything!"

;-)

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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:00 AM
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31. Between Durham and Hillsborugh, NC
Nice quiet rain coming down now. Little breezy. Nothing major .... yet. The eye is supposed to make landfall at Cape LookOut, NC sometime between 12-3 this afternoon.
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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:34 AM
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34. Hey Supe!
Trees are a-swayin' here at 11:30 - wind gusts of 20-30 already. Wondering where the first trees are gonna fall, and hoping it's not across my cable line...

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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:56 AM
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41. Hey Short Bus!
Yes, Me too! :hi:

I don't think we will get the voilent wind, though. :shrug: I could be wrong. I would love the chance to try out my new rechargable flashlight! :D
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nannygoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:35 AM
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43. Hey supernova and shortbus!
They just announced that UNC would be closing at 2:00 pm. That was a surprise since the university rarely shuts down. Keep dry, guys.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:41 AM
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47. Wow! Really unusual
To shut down UNC. I heard about ECU this morning of course. Did you notice the wind is picking up here?
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nannygoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:15 PM
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51. Raining pretty hard and very windy in Chapel Hill
I gotta go catch my bus!
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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:24 PM
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52. prior to the 3' snow of 2000
UNC had not shut down since the Civil War. Very weird. It's like they're expecting more out of this storm than I am. Hrm...

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:21 AM
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21. "Katie, every drop of rain has sand in it" (NBC reporter at Va.Beach)
The Today show has the trifecta going. Kill Devil Hills, Atlantic Beach, and Va Beach.

Richmond here so far just rain.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:30 AM
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23. Here in suburban Maryland...
just rain too.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:45 AM
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38. Brian Williams just got knocked on his arse in Va. Beach
along with some guy from the Weather Channel while attempting to get a wind gauge reading.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:53 AM
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39. You should see the miserable bastard at Atlantic Beach (MSNBC)
Getting his ass kicked too.

DOWN GOES WILLIAMS! DOWN GOES WILLIAMS!
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:04 AM
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42. peekaloo you got me really laughing at that
I'm terrible with stuff like that happens...I even laugh at myself if I fall over...thanks for th laugh..:D
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:39 AM
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46. happy to oblige
Williams was literally pinned against a building WHILE reporting live......he brought in a Weather Channel guy to get a wind reading and while they were attempting to read the gauge, while holding on to one another *snicker*, a big gust blew them out of camera range!

:hi:
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Japhy_Ryder Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:35 AM
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24. In central VA
It's starting to rain here already. The winds have been kicking up since last night, although we're going to get the worst of it this evening. They're calling for lots of rain and 60-70 mph gusts. The only thing I'm really concerned about it is we have lots of construction around our house, and I highly doubt that the workers will pick up all the junk.

My brothers's up from his place in Currituck Co, NC, which he expects massive damage to. We have a case of beer and a cooler of ice, so we're just going to sit back and watch as it plows through later today.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:39 AM
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25. You did do you civic duty and go to Ukrop's and get milk and bread..
didn't you?

:bounce:

Welcome to DU :hi: if'n I haven't before.

Richmond (in the city here)
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Japhy_Ryder Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:45 AM
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26. Yup, and I done got interviewed by the news
I stocked up on 8 gallons of milk, cause if the power...goes...out....um....it'll all...um...spoil..
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:35 AM
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35. Really which channel?
All can be resolved with bread and milk. :eyes:

You should be well on your way to getting that Thanksgiving turkey.
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Japhy_Ryder Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:40 AM
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37. I didn't really get interviewed...or go to the store
I'm actually in Lynchburg. And as such, I'm protected by Dr. Jerry Falwell's Invisible Force Field of the Will of God* so I'm not expecting any problems.

*Dr. Jerry Falwell's Invisible Force Field of the Will of God not applicable to homosexuals, abortionists, atheists, carpet baggers, minorities or people that don't eat 3 meals a day at Applebee's
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 09:44 AM
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29. I Found An Awesome Satellite JPG Of Isabel Yesterday
It was taken yesterday just before landfall. That storm system is HUGE!

PM me if you want the link and I'll pass it along. I don't want to overload DU's server.
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 09:52 AM
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30. Thanks Don_G
will do friend...:hi:
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:27 AM
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32. Dimbo Won't Escape
Predictions are 5+ inches at Camp David with the storm passing directly overhead. Additionally, the satellite downlink must be located in the VA/DC area somewhere; the real time images from GOES-12 meteorological satellite are currently down.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:39 AM
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36. Why is he at Camp David?
I was wondering about that. Shouldn't he be WAY further inland?

I'm sure he would be if the assessors thought there was any danger but it just seems strange to me that the holder of the OFFICE of the Presidency wouldn't be sure.

Also like other things it would really be a good thing for him if he were to try to sell the fact that he is going through what many others are but then he had a colon scope and never mentioned it. A golden opportunity to ephasize the need for men about his age to have theirs checked out but Rove probably thought it might imply weakness and they just can't have that now can they?
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:55 AM
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40. Error In Judgement
Remember that he runs off and hides at every oppourtunity. His stystemic and continual poor judgement led him to hide at Camp David thinking he would be safe there.

I know Asskrap is safe since he spoke to a Law Enforcement group in my city this morning far, far away from DC.
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:36 AM
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44. You can bet Camp David is well equiped to handle anything
maybe a bunker too and surely generators to run the place where everyone is starting to lose power on Virginia Beach.

That's hard being without power and how long will it be but Bush will remain comfortable I'm sure.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:44 AM
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49. I Don't Know
Did they draft Noah to build an Ark or is Falwell praying the storm away?
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:54 AM
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50. or may be called Reverend Billy Graham for blessings
:D
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FireHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:28 PM
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53. Didn't they announce...
that Dubya took Air Force One to Georgia? The hero runs away again.

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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:31 AM
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33. stay safe, DUers
thinking good thoughts for y'all.

give us a shout when you are able.

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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:36 AM
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45. Praying for your safety...
and that the damage to homes and property is minimal.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 09:56 PM
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54. As my North Carolina friend said...
...may the hurricane wash all those warmongering repubs in DC right down the Potomac!
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