can some one do a search for me??

[veganwitch]

im looking for a discussion in the gen discussion forum about dean's mental health policy/force drugging.

this was back in august i think.

thanks in advanced.

[meegbear]

1. Do what *I* do ...

go to google and do a search for dean "mental health plan" then take your pick.

[Kellanved]

2. This one?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=156695

If it isn't the right thread I need more information to find it.

You're welcome.

[Bossy Monkey]

3. That's the only one I found, too (n/t)

[veganwitch]

4. it was a different one

maybe it was end of july? it had i think 200 replies to it. i think it was called "do you support forcing someone to take medication? dean does." it spawned a whole slew of similar threads on that format of title.

[Kellanved]

5. That thread is probably lost

Only the "Dean worse than Clinton" thread has that many replies.

Many good threads from that time were lost in GD.

[veganwitch]

6. crap! darn! shoot!!

ok thank you anyway.

[deek]

7. got this in my mailbox yesterday

"Response to Dean's Mental Health Platform"

Laura Ziegler <[e-mail]> writes the following in
response to JFA's posting of Governor Dean's mental health
platform:

I am a disability rights activist who has lived for in Vt.
for nearly 10 years, and a person who as a minor was
institutionalized and forcibly drugged on the basis of
alleged mental illness. I serve on the board of the
National Association for Rights Protection and Advocacy,*
and since 1983 have been part of the organized movement for
human rights and against psychiatric oppression. Part of
that struggle involved full time presence at the Vermont
Statehouse trying to stop a bill concerning forced
psychiatric drugging -- a bill which then-Governor Dean
heavily promoted.

This regressive and discriminatory legislation
substantially undermined our rights to self
determination. The Second Circuit recently affirmed the
District Court's finding that part of it (concerning
advance directives) violated both the ADA and Sec. 504 of
the Rehabilitation Act.** As Whit Smith, who acted as co-
counsel in the case, stated to the press: "Discrimination
against Vermonters with mental disabilities has been
ingrained in state law and practices." As such, it was an
integral part of Governor Dean's mental health policy.

I am also familiar with the neglect and violation of rights
long prevalent at the Vermont State Hospital (which is now
at risk of decertification by the end of the month), with
the "treatment" endured by inmates with psychiatric
disabilities in Vermont's prison system, and with Dean's
attempt to block a federal grant for (ADA related)
communication supports for developmentally disabled
defendants. In poet Marge Piercy's words:

"I try hard to remember to watch what people do. Yes,
keep your eyes on the hands, let the voice go buzzing."

And now, there's Candidate Dean's mental health
platform. So what? Talk is cheap, and Howard
Dean is no ally.

Laura Ziegler

* I am submitting this as an individual, not on behalf of
NARPA

** see Hargrave v. State of Vermont, at
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/2nd/027160p.pdf

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[deek]

8. found this at JFA

Governor Dean's Mental Health Platform
Posted: 14 Sep 2003 00:39:17 -0700
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"Governor Dean's Mental Health Platform"

As we approach next year's presidential election, JFA wants
to feature disability-related positions of the various
candidates. Contact the campaigns and ask them about their
positions on various disability issues. If you can get it
in writing, forward it on to JFA for dissemination. JFA
also welcomes your views on the candidates.

Send position papers or commentary to [e-mail], with
JFA SUBMISSION in the subject heading.

Here's Governor Dean's commitments regarding mental health.

Jonathan Young
JFA Moderator, AAPD

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Dear Friend:

I'd like to take this opportunity to talk to you about my
views and experiences relating to mental health. As a
physician, I have a special appreciation for the
devastating effect of mental illness on individuals and
families.


<snip>

If elected President, I will seek real solutions to the
mental health care crisis. My priorities will be: (1)
programs that make early investments in community care and
save money on less effective institutional care whenever it
can be avoided; (2) programs that integrate mental health
treatment with drug addiction treatment, housing
assistance, job training and education for individuals who
need additional services; and (3) programs that address the
unique needs of children with severe emotional
disturbances. My national mental health agenda will
include:

see: http://www.jfanow.org/cgi/getli.pl?1816