Anyone watch 60 Minutes tonight? Hasn't been on here yet.

[baby_bear]

Just curious about whether it's worth watching...

thanks
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[ocean girl]

1. I just watched the Ricky Williams segment

and I loved it - he's pretty enlightened and he gave Mike Wallace a run for his money. Wallace came off as an uptight old man.

[Sympleesmshn]

3. The Williams part was good

[48pan]

10. He Looked Stoned in the Interview

Ricky is all doped up and can't pass a drug test. Otherwise he would be playing football. I don't believe a word he said.

[BlueJazz]

2. I did like the Andy Roony segment...rather scathing...

[mark414]

4. watch the Ricky Williams piece

really smart guy, and he offered a very deep and thoughtful explanation of his decision (besides the marijuana) to leave the NFL

i'd say he's someone to look up to, and any fans or teammates of his who now hate him need to realize that there's more to life than football...

this is coming from someone who gets pissed as hell if he's bothered during football on sundays...

[cire4]

5. WOW! The Williams piece was very good

I admit, I was among those who thought he was a whackjob. But after seeing this piece and hearing him talk, my respect for him has gained tremendously.

He's the complete antithesis of the sports world. A guy who values knowledge and personal freedom over money. If only more people could be like that...I also liked how he challenged Wallace philosophically on some of his questions.

[mark414]

6. "when's the RIGHT time to stop playing football?"

"when my knees are shot? when my shoulders are shot"

he is one smart, insightful, respectable dude

unless he goes back, he's essentially broke...but he doesn't care...if that's not admirable i don't know what is

[Ravenseye]

7. I have no compassion for Ricky Williams

If he wanted to go off and be a hippie masseuse and smoke pot constantly, I say more power to him. Hey if you want to go do that and that's what makes you happy, more power to you. Enjoy.

Whatever he says though he broke a contract. He took money from the Dolphins to play this year, and he's not playing. He hasn't paid the money back. He left his teammates without a running back mere days before training camp.

If he wanted to stop he shouldn't have signed a contract. If he wanted to quit football he should have waited till the time on the contract he signed was up. If he wanted to quit before that, he should have discussed it with the team and given them more notice to pick up a free agent, or draft a new running back. Instead he basically left them in the lurch and they're one of the worst teams in the NFL this year because of his leaving. Would they have made the superbowl? Who knows. Highly doubtful, but that doesn't matter.

He didn't honor the commitments he agreed to, and he left because he valued smoking pot more than being honorable.

It doesn't matter whether or not they should drug test for pot. It doesn't matter whether he didn't like what he was doing. He signed up for it, and then quit because he didn't want to get suspended for drug violations. He can't go back because he gets high every day, he was baked for the interview.

I have no compassion for him. He fucked people over.

[angee_is_mad]

8. You are

making alot of sense right now! I watched the interview and he was Fuc# up then! I get the feeling that he is running from something. There is something deeper that he is struggling with that is deeper than football, weed and religion.

But he was struggling with this before he signed the contract and no one forced a gun to his head to sign it. Honor is standing by your word or promise and we now know that Ricky's word is not worth sh@#

[mark414]

9. you should watch the piece

and hear his side of the story

i felt the same way as you, though a little less militant

the interview opened up my eyes...it was pretty incredible

i love football man, it is not wise to disturb me on a sunday, but it's just that, football, a game...ricky made it clear that there were things that were more important

[Ravenseye]

11. Dude I did watch it.

I did hear his side of the story. He seemed stoned. At times defensive, at other times he copped to his problems. I don't care if you admit you did something wrong. You still did it.

He seems to me, after watching the interview, like an incredibly self centered person, who really had no grasp at all on reality.

"I want to be free."

Really? What about all the millions of dollars that you blew through for work that you never did and now you can't pay back?

I don't want to play football, I hate that life and everything it stands for, but I'd be willing to play for the Raiders. Huh?

Open your eyes to breaking contracts, letting down teammates, and being dishonorable...simply because you really freaking like getting stoned. That's what this comes down to. Everything about the alternative massage training is BS. He quit on himself, his friends, and family because he really likes getting stoned.

He tested positive twice....they dont' do anythign till the third time...He knew when it was coming. He could just have not smoked pot that summer...and he failed it anyway. He probably got high that morning just to spike the test so he'd have another excuse.

That's all Ricky Williams is. Excuses.

[mark414]

12. i stand corrected

like i said...i think there's more important things to life than football even though i fucking love it myself

but hey man it's all good, to each his own

[Ravenseye]

13. There are TONS of things more important than football

I love football, but the culture that surrounds it in this country is out of control.

The thing is no matter what he says, he's not stopping so that he doesn't destroy his body. He's not stopping because he hates that culture. He's stopping because he's a pothead.

That's fine to be a pothead. I have friends who are potheads. I make no judgements on that.

...and yes, to each his own. He chose to do what he's doing, and I hope he pays the consequenses of that. The main problem is that he made a promise to do something, and he broke that promise, affecting the people on his team, and in a lesser way the people of Miami.

If he had reached the end of his contract and chose to do this I would support him and laud him for it. He didn't though. He broke the law, in multiple ways, and beyond that acted dishonorably. I don't care what sweet platitudes he wants to say now.

Go Steelers! :)

[Kire]

15. "it's all good"

tell that to the Dolphins fans who have to pay more for their tickets, now

[chyjo]

14. Teams break contracts all the time

the average NFL team cuts around twenty players a year who are under contract. NFL contracts are not like MLB contracts and neither side is obligated to hold to their end. In fact the Dolphins are taking an extremely low by trying to take money that Williams earned playing for the Saints. More often than not teams do not hold there end and either cut a player before the end of contracts(which are usually backloaded toward the end) or they get the player to restructure with paycuts.

So the Dolphins and everyone else who support the team's position can take that snooty argument and shove it.