Worst police force for a major US city.

[maveric]

Poll question: Worst police force for a major US city.

The choices listed are from feedback I've received over the years.
Can you say LAPD?

[Zomby Woof]

1. LAPD

But fuck all of them.

[MissBrooks]

29. SF

SF has got to be the worst.

[GOPisEvil]

2. I don't know if Austin's is the worst, but they aren't the best for sure.

I was impressed with DC cops during the march back in April. I hardly noticed them.

[tridim]

3. Reno

At least the fake Reno police.

[stranger_with_candy]

17. yeah but they're the funniest

[Red State Rebel]

33. That is one funny show! n/t

[maveric]

4. Boston was pretty bad in the corruption dept when I lived there1956-79.

But overall LAPD takes the cake IMO.

[mark414]

5. milwaukee

most racist motherfuckers ever

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

9. If you think MKE is bad, you should visit your neighbors in the Falls!!

eeesh! I have stories.

[mark414]

10. why would i want to go all the way out there???

:P

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

11. Good point. Oh wait...

I am here. I'll buy you a drink to celebrate your grades!

[mark414]

13. on my way!

better have a cold one ready!

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

15. I have Jager in freezer, 9 Miller Lites, 6 pack of Bacardi O2's....

and.... :smoke:

You?

[mark414]

16. our very own

lakefront brewery holiday spice beer...with 12.5% alcohol per volume!

and i've got plenty of :smoke:

[Cyndee_Lou_Who]

21. Party on, Wayne!

Maybe when it's not so damn cold we can go toss a few back. :toast:

[mark414]

25. i'm game

spring couldn't come too soon!

[MnFats]

46. I was going to suggest MIlwaukee for consideration...

it seems like every time they put one scandal (shooting some innocent soult, beating the fuck out of brown-skinned people or lining their own pockets) somebody pulls something worse than the one previous.



When I lived in Wisc., (1976-81) a retired Milwaukee cop, approaching death from cancer, confessed that he and his partner had placed a knife in a black kid's hand after shooting him to death. This had happened in the 1950s. The boy was on his way home from school with books under his arm. His mama swore her boy was a good child and an eager student, and never had carried a weapon in his life. She was right, but nobody ever paid a price.

[derbstyron]

6. St. Petersburg (FL) is pretty bad. Tampa as well.

It makes the Tampa Bay, FL area a lovely place to live.

[donheld]

7. Denver is right up/down there with the worst

They shot a guy with a pop can, mistaking it for a gun? Give me a break.

[curse10]

19. They are awful-- and really should be on this list

some of the things they've done in recent years is just beyond the pale.

Boston police, however, I've found to be rather nice and friendly.

[maveric]

22. BPD are nice because of the mob money they are taking in.

That would make anyone nicer with the extra tax-free income.

[curse10]

24. LoL- well, at least they don't pull me over and harass me

and whenever I ask one for directions somewhere they always help very nicely!

[roguevalley]

8. New Orleans

[RagingInMiami]

12. Miami PD definitely take's the cake

When they're not standing on trial on felony charges, they're abusing anybody's right to protest peacefully.

[Radical Activist]

34. Now I know what a fascist police state looks like

After the FTAA protests in Miami.

[KG]

14. the cinncinati police are quite adept at shooting unarmed black men

this isn't a good thing.

[Magrittes Pipe]

18. He had a brick, you know.

:eyes:

[curse10]

20. I think that's a common theme amongst most major police forces

it's a sad fucking world we live in

[vpigrad]

23. Where's Atlanta?

If you've ever seen Freaknik, you've see dozens or hundreds of cops beat people for just being black. It's horrible the way the thugs in blue just go crazy that week.

[barb162]

26. I wish the poll would have to say why?

Brutality? False charges? Forced confessions? Don't all big AND SMALL police depts. do this

[maveric]

30. All of the above or a combination of.

[derbstyron]

32. St Pete (and Tampa) like to have white officers shoot unarmed black kids

and then wonder why there are riots :mad:

[Osamasux]

27. Philly

They're like the Keystone Kops

[Twillig]

28. What, no Dallas police?

The least they could have done was keep Oswald from getting greased.

Locally the Portland police sure like to shoot people or get all dressed up in their stormtrooper gear.

[Fenris]

31. Houston, by far

Can we say worthless crime lab?

[barb162]

35. A white 45 yr oldfriend of mine in Charlotte, NC was brutalized, held

overnight and they tried to get a false confession from him for being a drug user. He takes HUGE amounts of prescibed oxycontin with legit prescriptions from an orthopedist because he has a shattered shoulder, multiple operations and is in constant pain from his shoulder problem. Coming out of the pharmancy with his prescription, two undercover drug cops cuffed him in the back and he was begging them to cuff him in front as he cannot move his entire arm back like that. Between the beatings and cuffing and whatever else, he lost even more use of the arm. The cops after many hours realized they made a mistake.

[TX-RAT]

36. I've had enough.

As a retired Peace officer from TX. I'm sick and fucking tired of all this bashing of law enforcement around here. I'm proud of my service and the service of others. This is the kind of shit thats splitting up this party. Y'all have no idea what law enforcement has to put up with, you'd rather just cuss them, and call them evil. I have several friends who died in the line of duty in my 21 yrs of service, and who fucking cares. 2 of them have memorials on the side of interstate 20 in TX. One was hit by a drunk driver while helping a young lady change a flat tire. The other was shot in the forehead by a punk kid during a routine traffic stop.
To my friends, I'm sorry but i just can't take it anymore, it's just not worth it. It's pretty sad when this shit is allowed to continue. To those who disagree, just continue what your doing and watch another election slide by.
Skinner, Thank you
Co Liberal and the Princess, Thank you
Luna Bush, Thank you
Iverglas, Thank you
Slackmaster, Thank you
Those that I've left out, please forgive me. I'm out of here.

[CO Liberal]

37. NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We hate to see you leave, TX.

Please reconsider.

[amazona]

44. Hey, don't go

We are not talking about the many good cops out there who do good and put their lives on the line every day.

We're talking about the corrupt and the outrageous. You gotta admit, cops like Antoinette Frank of New Orleans who pulled armed robberies/murders for a side income are going to attract some wry commentary from time to time.

[barb162]

45. Please stay. Noone is saying there's not good police. This is about

the bad apples, NOT YOU!

[sonicx]

47. Oh boy, a new excuse! "Police bashing" lost the election!

the thread's purpose is to pick the worst individual departmant, not to say all are bad. Just like being critical of some christians doesn't mean all are bad.

And this is a message board. We don't win or lose elections.

Bye.

[pintobean]

48. Thank you for your service TX-RAT.

Most cops are wonderful people with courage and honor. Unfortunately. most folks never try to imagine what their lives would be like without the thin blue line.
This thread sucks!

[PittPoliSci]

oi thank you.

A few bad cops don't make the bunch evil. As a volunteer firefighter, I've become friends with many police officers, and as result, I've grown very tiresome of all this foolish bickering over police conduct.

[pinniped]

38. San Jose PD in California.

Fucking civil rights violating pricks.

[Jesus H. Christ]

39. Where's Detroit?

Seattle's got a pretty bad PD too, for some of the same reasons.

[Lenape85]

40. Not major city, but the Ridgewood Police Department (NJ)

I was about to protest Bill O'Reilly, and he asks me all these questions, holds on to my ID for 20 minutes and asks me if DU is a terrorist organization

[bleedingheart]

41. There are a lot of good police officers

my cousin is a detective, has had to arrest people who have killed people in merciless ways, perverts, rapists and other jerks.

I realize that there are bad police but there are a lot more sickos who perpetrate crime.

I have only had very positive interactions with police officers, even the ones I know that are die-hard freepers who I don't agree with politically.

[SmileyBoy]

42. Not a major city, but the Fargo PD is very facistic.

They seriously have a vendetta against teenagers and young adults. They recently outlawed car cruising on Broadway, downtown's busiest street. They'll harrass teenagers and young adults for standing around someplace (anyplace), they'll even stop normal people walking on the street and proceed to harrass them as well. I was once stopped (in my car) late at night on my college campus by one of those bastards who had followed me for a mile, claiming that I was breaking the speed limit (which I wasn't), and besides, I was the only car on the road.

At least the LAPD is abusive to people who have actually COMMITTED crimes. The FPD is abusive to normal, law-abiting citizens who have done no wrong.

[amazona]

43. are you mad? those PDs are pikers!

New Orleans PD by a long shot, proud supplier of more cops to death row per capita than any other!

Who can forget the marvelous mass murderess Antoinette Frank, who after conviction for an armed robbery gone wrong where she and her paramour killed four or five people, they dug up her back yard and found more human bones?

And let us not forget the wonderful Len Davis who moonlighted from the PD as a drug dealer and thus had excellent resources for ordering a contract kill of a witness?

[iconoclastic cat]

49. This is not a helpful or enlightening thread.

There are individuals in all professions who do unacceptable things; discussion of those individuals is fair game. Denegrating an entire force, however, is ridiculous and offensive.

Shut down this thread.

[sonicx]

51. that's what this thread is doing

Discussing the departments with the worst individuals. Obviously, entire police departments aren't bad.

[iconoclastic cat]

52. I don't know, sonicx: "Worst police force for a major US city"?

That sounds like a generalization to me. Sure, talk about John Burge of the CPD, but not the whole CPD itself.

[sonicx]

53. not really. Some departments made have more than one bad individual...

kinda hard to fit them in a poll slot.

It's like if someone made a poll "what's the most violent city to live in." The poll is not saying that everyone in the city is violent. It's saying it has a abundance of violent individuals among a larger group of non-violent ones.

[iconoclastic cat]

54. Isn't that a biased question, then?

If you say, "What's the most violent city?" aren't beginning with the premise that the city is, in fact, violent? Beyond this, what counts as violence? Do we only count physical violence, like rape with a broom handle, or do we count other forms of aggressive oppression, such as the threat of expulsion by a school for non-conformity?

[sonicx]

57. I don't think so, it would probably just list a bunch of major cities...

without judging any of them (LA, Detroit, NY, Chicago, the usual) and just asking the person to pick one. It's up to the poster to determine what is 'violent' or not. Otherwise, why do a poll?

Again, it's not saying everyone in the city is violent.

[Nicole]

55. helpful or enlightening threads aren't always the norm here

Denegrating an entire force, however, is ridiculous and offensive.

Change force to a red state & it's the same thing we in those red states read daily here.

I have yet to read any calls to shut those threads down.

[iconoclastic cat]

56. You are absolutely 100% right about the attitude toward "red states."

I have, on several occasions, called BS on other DUers for their stereotypes about people who live in "Southern" states. My protests have only met with scorn or silence.

[Nicole]

58. Thank you for that.

I have seen the same scorn & silence.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

60. There are departments with policies which are not

in line with "reasonable" police behaviour and waaaay out of touch with the citizens they are sworn to protect.

LA comes to mind.
NJ State Police with racial profilling
So does Atlanta, which I am suprised is not on the list. Miami and many S. Flordia departments would be there too. i.e. THe Stun Gunnings this year.

While some police departments are beyond understanding and allow people to excerise their rights peacefully, such as...

NYPD prior to 9/11 and the reign of error of Kerik
KCMO police, who have long been in the forefront of new polcing theories and patterns.
Newark, NJ police keeping a lid on a boiling pot
DC Metro Police... out manned and ignored by hostile Feds, kept out of the loop on major cases until crime scenes are wrecked and otherwise pushed, shoved and crapped on, and they STILL keep their collective cool.

So, yes, this is instructive if we contain it to department dynamics and policies.

Agreed?

[lpbk2713]

50. New Orleans and Miami-Dade

I've heard for years that corruption was a way of life from top to bottom at NOPD.

And Miami-Dade get rich by skimming from the dealers.

[0007]

59. Denver's pretty bad.