What races is it socially acceptable to be racist about?

[Wat_Tyler]

I would start with the Germans, Scots, Irish, maybe the Mexicans and Afrikaaners, maybe the Japanese. What say you?

What i'm getting at is - what races can people make jokes and derogatory references to without facing social disapproval?

[tk2kewl]

1. i think white males have been fair game for a while

[KitchenWitch]

2. whites only

just like the old Jim Crow laws LOL

[angee_is_mad]

30. Unbelievable

that's all I can say about this post. Simply unbelievable!

[MercutioATC]

3. Ummmm....NASCAR?

That's the only one I come up with...


:evilgrin:

[xray s]

6. Boston Marathon

*!%*@! chowdah heads! :)

[MercutioATC]

7. O.K....you got me.

PETA would probably include the Kentucky Derby too.

[Ready4Change]

23. Yah, NASCAR is allowable, but Formula One is off limits.

Poor, downtrodden F1.

[MercutioATC]

27. Agreed. I like watching F1.

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[asthmaticeog]

14. Not ALL. Woody Allen, for example, is a Protestant, frontin' as Jewish.

[jellybelly]

17. really?

:scared:

[asthmaticeog]

19. Yep. His real name is Woodrow Allen Cabot.

[Bok_Tukalo]

5. Those are more cultural than racial

I don't think any race can be degraded.

Cultures? All are fair game.

[Wat_Tyler]

8. No, I think the Germans in particular can be referred to in racist fashion

without much in the way of repercussion.

I should add the Quebecois and Native North Americans to the list.

[Bok_Tukalo]

13. Germans? That's a nationality, not a race

<eom>

[Wat_Tyler]

16. I would classify the Germans as a race.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

22. They aren't a race. Caucasian is a race. German is a nationality.

[Wat_Tyler]

26. By your definition perhaps - I consider them a race.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

29. But they aren't a race. That you consider them a race doesn't matter.

And if you are considering them a race for the purposes of this conversation then you are simply trying to manipulate a point (and I mean this with no hostility)

[Wat_Tyler]

32. My opinion matters more than anyone else in the world.

So there.

[kwassa]

39. In my opinion

You're opinion is worthless. Just my opinion.

You are also trolling.

[Worst Username Ever]

42. Did you hear that Wat? You're trolling!

[Zuni]

48. they are an ethnicity, not a race

just like there are different ethnicities of asians like Laotian or Japanese, there are different caucasians like Teutonic, Roman, Celtic or Slavic.

[Zuni]

46. Yes. They are Teutonic as opposed to Slavic or Celtic or Semitic

all are white races, similar race but seperate ethnic groups

[Bok_Tukalo]

15. I think I misunderstand the question

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[LeftCoast]

56. I hope you're being facetious

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

9. It is socially accpetable to fight power..unless you think this song was

racist against Nazi's:

When Der Fuehrer says, "We ist der master race"
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Der Fuehrer's face
Not to love Der Fuehrer is a great disgrace
So we HEIL! HEIL! Right in Der Fuehrer's face
When Herr Gobbels says, "We own der world und space"
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Herr Goring's face
When Herr Goring says they'll never bomb this place
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Herr Goring's face

Are we not the supermen
Aryan pure supermen
Ja we ist der supermen
Super-duper supermen
Ist this Nutzi land not good?
Would you leave it if you could?
Ja this Nutzi land is good!
Vee would leave it if we could

We bring the world to order
Heil Hitler's world New Order
Everyone of foreign race will love Der Fuehrer's face
When we bring to der world disorder

When Der Fuehrer says, "We ist der master race"
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Der Fuehrer's face
When Der Fuehrer says, "We ist der master race"
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Der Fuhrer's face

[mcscajun]

11. Ah....I can hear the Bronx Cheers in all the appropriate places...

...gotta love Spike Jones. :)

[Rockerdem]

10. None. There is no benign racism

[Wat_Tyler]

12. That's not what I mean - it's not a moral question.

What I mean is - what will society accept?

[Rockerdem]

18. If it accepts it, its not "society"

Sorry, not playing.

[Wat_Tyler]

20. Any reason for the weird passive-agressive tone?

Clearly our society accepts racism.

[asthmaticeog]

21. By your definition then, there IS no society.

If there's a culture totally free of bigotry, prejudice and parochialism, point me in that direction, please.

[Zuni]

47. I'd like to see that

bigotry is rampant all over the world, in different forms

[baldguy]

24. Sneeches. Especially the star-bellied ones.

They're so uppity!

[JVS]

25. I fucking hate them!

[DeposeTheBoyKing]

28. I prefer no RACISM at all

I judge people on a case-by-case basis. Actually, I try not to judge them at all unless they've done something to hurt me. I'm white and am much more critical of many of my fellow whites than I ever would be of other races.

I took a class called US Races and the Justice System in my second year of law school. While I consider myself pretty tolerant and open-minded and cognizant of other races' struggles, I learned things in that class I never knew before. I highly recommend classes of this nature; they really make you see where others are coming from.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

31. Excellent post and thanks

[ThorsHammer]

38. Me too, but pop. culture would say whites, gays, Southerners, and fat ppl.

[redqueen]

33. Hmmmmm

Technically speaking those aren't races... but for the sake of argument I'll say that it does seem to be socially acceptable to make scathing jokes and derogatory comments in general about those nationalities, yes. As far as what other nationalities can be insulted or slammed on without much repurcussion, I'd add the English and the French.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

34. it would depend on whoever is the powerful majority in the country

so whites in this country

hindus in india etc

[ChickMagic]

35. Ku Klux Klan

Oh wait, they're racist. Not a race. :silly:
I would say Scots, Irish and Aggies. I am all three so I'm entitled. Believe me, Aggies are most certainly a race.

[Texasgal]

44. Yup! I agree!

Aggies are fair game! :P

[kick-ass-bob]

36. well, heer in 'Murka

its the French.

:eyes:

[Kire]

40. New Hampshire is 30% Franco-American

or so they said on West Wing least night

[kick-ass-bob]

43. wull, thats part of that librul taxachusets!

:crazy:

[Zuni]

58. what do you expect from Northeast elitists?

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

37. Scots

feckers!

[BiggJawn]

41. Republicans n/t

[NorthernSpy]

45. people who live in trailer parks

You know: those people. :eyes:

Many detractors, few defenders.

[Zuni]

50. white trash is the new scapegoat

rich white people and poor black people can hate the same enemy now: po' white trash

[Book Lover]

49. Ferengi

I mean, c'mon; all the men are well-endowed? Yeah, pull the other one, it's got bells on....

[neweurope]

51. I'm grateful that some here think this post is not the best ever.

I'm also grateful for some pointing out that "German" is not a race.

For those who need ecucation:

Hitler thought they were a race. A very special caucasian race.

I find it very astonishing however that on DU - a political forum - some assume that all of you are "white Americans". Probably all male, too.

I know that I'm a guest here and should tread lightly. But I really am not amused.


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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[Karenina]

53. Ich auch nicht, liebling.

Ich lese nur MIST hier. :puke:

[Zuni]

57. Teutonic isn't a race, but it is an ethnic group

So they aren't entirely off the mark, just confused as to the proper terminology

As a person of Russian descent, I am ethically slavic, racially caucasian.

[Lenape85]

52. Whites of course

[Susang]

54. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU FORGOT POLAND!!!!

Hey, somebody had to, it might as well have been me. :evilgrin:

[AlienGirl]

55. The Indianapolis 500 and Kentucky Derby. n/t

[madinmaryland]

59. It's sad that this is still a question that can be asked.

When will be able to accept people with out labeling them as a certain race, and why should we want to make fun of any certain racial, ethnic, or sexual background. That is just wrong IMHO.

:-(

[Ivan Sputnik]

60. Martians

but only because there (apparently) aren't any.