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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:34 PM
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Who would like to see Hillary Clinton run for Prez in '08?
Was just watching a bit of "Scarborough Country" and they are licking their chops over this possiblilty.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:36 PM
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1. It's a common meme
on the part of pukes everywhere. I swear they're getting off on the thought.
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GR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:36 PM
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2. Oh Screw Them...
I'm not particularly for Hillary but all this "licking of chops" over Dean, Kennedy, etc...fill in the blank is as phony as a three dollar bill....They're just so damned arrogant...
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:38 PM
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3. CLARK, but whoever runs better just kick ass. No more door-mats!
And NO more Mr. Nice Guy Conventions. Good grief!
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:38 PM
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4. No...I wouldn't
I like Hillary...but she's just carrying too much baggage. We can't afford an easy target like her. We have got to get to a point where the Clintons aren't part of the equation from the Repub point of view.

I do want to see a woman as President before I die, though.
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On Par Donating Member (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:39 PM
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5. Scarborough Has A Bad Back....
..and his brain doesn't function all that well either.

Personally, I don't see Hillary running for President in '08. However, I do see Jebby getting more national exposure and is being primed to take his Bro's place.

OP
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:46 PM
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8. That's what I'm a-thinkin too
Jeb is being 'polished' up now to inherit the throne. I agree about Hillary - I think she would not do our party well by running. I can't think of anyone now who really 'floats my boat'. That is sad.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:48 PM
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10. well, in 1989 at this time
nobody had heard of Bill Clinton and Mario Cuomo was the 1000 pound gorilla waiting to run in 1992.
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:10 PM
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16. What do you think they had on Mario?
I was salivating for him to run.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 05:55 AM
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50. no idea
there were always rumors of him having 'skeletons in the closet', but I never heard more than that.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:42 PM
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6. I know I saw that, too.
That perplexes me. I don't think she should run because that's what they all want. Seems they get wet dreams just thinking about it they get in such a frenzy! Makes me sick. If she runs I'll be very disappointed...not that I think she's bad but because they want it so bad. NEVER give them what they want.

I haven't watched much of news entertainment since the elections and everything I'm seeing tonight is like a right-wing hatefest with all the right-wing radio wolves as guests and then they never let the "left" guest even say anything for but 15 seconds.

The poor guy from The National Review looked like he felt uncomfortable being on there like he didn't feel like he was doing right by being on that TV show. He mostly kept his mouth shut and stayed out of the fray.

I can't tell you how much this shit make me sick to my inner core. This country has gone way off the deep end.

I wanted to catch Scarborough to see why he's mad that the secret service can't be at the inaugural. I was curious. This is strange. But, I got so mad I switched to Aaron.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:44 PM
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7. That's funny. Everyone who's replied doesn't see Hilary running.
So what are they getting off about? They are just sickos.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:46 PM
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9. It's her right to do it, but I'd rather that she wouldn't

She's got people who don't like her on the right wing and left wing.

First of all, for a good 30% of people in this country, if you bring her name up, it's like you've invoked satan or something. I know she doesn't deserve this, but it's just the way it is.

It's funny how the conservative hate her so much, because to me she is very conservative in her views and policies. She's not liberal at all, but for some reason she invokes hatred for a lot of people in this country.

I like her as a person, but not as a politician.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:50 PM
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12. the view of Hillary is that she is extremely liberal
that is what the RW portrays her as and it has stuck in the media. I'm sure in 2008, she'll have been the #1 liberal in the Senate according to some obscure voting survey.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:53 PM
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13. Exacty...it makes no sense

Some people will never support her because they think she's liberal. While people like me would have major qualms about supporting her, because to me she seems like a republican-lite. Therefore, she'll be attacked by both sides. I don't think she could win under those conditions.
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:35 PM
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29. If you are a woman and a democrat,
it means you are extremely liberal.

See the word "woman" already implies liberal (in the eyes of ultra conservative men). The word "democrat" of course implies liberal too. Thus, a women democrat is extremely liberal. That's like liberal times two, you know.

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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:42 AM
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51. I thought an educated woman meant extreme liberal
You know how the right hates a woman with a mind of her own.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:57 PM
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14. Yeah I know. Scarborough said something about how she's
moving to the center. I thought to myself "WHat the hell is HE talking about? She's ALWAYS been moderate!"
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Lenape85 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:50 PM
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11. If Hillary runs, I'm going third party
She voted for the war, we need a progressive, NOT A FUCKING DLC TYPE. I AM FUCKING SICK OF HAVING DLC TYPES RUINING OUR PARTY. DON'T YOU ALL KNOW THAT ECONOMIC PROGRESSIVISM IS HOW YOU FUCKING WIN. LOOK AT RUSS FEINGOLD, HE WON HANDILY IN A FUCKING STATE THAT JOHN KERRY HAD TO MOVE HEAVEN AND EARTH TO WIN.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:58 PM
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15. I feel the same way.
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Lenape85 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:15 PM
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20. Actually, I might also write-in a Democrat
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:10 PM
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17. No thanks.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:13 PM
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18. **crickets**
Hmmm, she tries to go to the "middle" which I hate on the important issues, and she's one of the most dividing political figures that there is, so with many people that doesnt matter anyways...I respect her as a woman in a high position, and what she has accomplished, but president...no...we would lose, period.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:15 PM
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19. Same Song... Different Page
I personally don't think it will fly no matter HOW much she's loved! We can't let the REPUKES have her!

Yeah, she has cohones, but they ARE licking their chops!!!!!!
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:17 PM
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21. I would love for her to be President
The right wing freaks on talk radio just can't quit talking about the Clintons.

Frankly, I think they're scared shitless of her.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:19 PM
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22. I hate those
bas$%((*)rds! Too much a lady to even type it! Anyone ever think that many, just maybe they poke their childish puns at those, in reality, their most fearful of?

I would like to see a woman run, but sadly we can not afford it. And I agree with Du posters. We need someone that's no-nonsense, packed with in your face punches, fast on the the feet and politically ready to stand-up, not whimp down!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:19 PM
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23. The other point not to be lost in this is what it would mean for democracy
Imagine what it would say about democracy--rule of the people--that we as a country are only going to go about nominating people from two political families. The Republicans are much worse about this. Since 1950, only one Republican national ticket has not had the name Nixon, Dole, or Bush on it.

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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:21 PM
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24. The Neo-Cons would love it.
They'll have a field day trashing her and then demolish her in the election.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:25 PM
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26. Precisely! n/t
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:23 PM
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25. Why not vote for someone who could win?
:-(
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:27 PM
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27. Got any polling info?
Just breaking it up between men and women, I wonder what the percentages are?
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:06 AM
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32. I haven't seen any. Personally, if I thought she had a snowball's...
chance in hell, I'd say go for it, but a failing incumbent just beat/stole an election from a war hero.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:11 AM
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33. On what is your opinion based?
Right wing assbites rage about the Clintons on the radio all of the time. My first inclination is to think they are afraid of something.

I'm just wondering if the percentage of men and women combined would make up a comfortable majority. I have no idea.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:34 AM
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36. You and I would vote for her, if the Dems nominated her, but...
There are too many men who would not. Sexism is alive and well in America.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:41 AM
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39. That is quite a crystal ball you've got there
I'd like to borrow it some time.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:53 AM
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43. So prove me wrong. Show me a poll saying democrat men will vote for her.
Otherwise, it's just my opinion against yours. ;-)
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:10 AM
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44. No, no, no
I have not expressed an opinion. I have only asked for polling data.

You, however, have stated, implied or asked:

1. Hillary can't win.

2. She doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell.

3. For a poll showing that democratic men will vote for Hillary.

I did not limit my inquiry to only democratic men.

It is you who have made a positive assertion, not me. You should back it up.

By whom has your brain been washed lately?
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:13 AM
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45. It hasn't! Explain why she's more viable than Gore or Kerry were, please?
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:18 AM
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47. You keep laboring under this delusion . . .
. . . that I said Hillary could win, or that I said she is more viable than Kerry. I NEVER SAID THAT.

However, you have totally shit on her chances of winning AND FOR THE THIRD TIME I'M ASKING YOU TO BACK IT UP WITH SOMETHING.
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:29 AM
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59. She'd have much more support from women n/t
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ThorsHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:28 PM
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28. From the other board: Someone had Richardson/Obama, any thoughts?
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CarpeVeritas Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:42 AM
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61. waaaaaaaay too early for obama to run.
some people just don't think these things through.

as for Richardson- we'd be much better off with someone who has NO past affiliation with the Clintons.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:37 PM
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30. First, a question: Where does she win that Gore or Kerry couldn't?
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 11:58 AM
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62. Absolutely!
The GOP is hoping and (forgive me) praying that she will toss her bra into the ring. They just can't wait to re-trounce the Clintons in the media all over again. Does it really matter who is going to run on the Democratic side? We may never see a Dem in that office again since they resort to stealing the election right under the nose of those dim-witted Morans.
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HeyManThatsCool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:44 PM
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31. I generally like her BUT
NO
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sffreeways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:13 AM
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34. I'd like to see it
I hope it happens. If she decides to run and I believe she will I'll be dropping everything I am doing to help get her elected.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:15 AM
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35. I'd prefer the Clinton's not be the face of the party
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:37 AM
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37. Would that include the two-term president, William Jefferson Clinton?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:44 AM
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40. Yes
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:45 AM
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41. Why don't you want the Clintons to be the face of the party?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:47 AM
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42. A) Because I feel they have both gotten a bit power hungry
B) Because 8 years of Clinton cost us the house, the senate and ultimately the White house
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:15 AM
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46. Holy Cow
A) What has influenced your "feelings" that the Clintons have gotten a bit power hungry?

B) What data do you have supporting the assertion that Clinton's eight years cost us the house, senate and white house?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:24 AM
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48. no
this is the lounge. My evidence....look at the results. That's all you need.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:28 AM
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49. Insufficient
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:38 AM
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38. At this point, who cares.
There are much more important issues to be worried about. We need to be articulating our opinions and beliefs about what is going on now!
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:09 AM
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52. No. I like Clark, Dean
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JordanTO Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:43 AM
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53. She would make an excellent president.
I believe that Sen. Clinton could possibly be an even better President than was her husband, but as polarised as the American electorate is, I believe her nomiatio would spell electoral disaster for the Democratic party. Has anyone ever considered the possibility of nominating her for the Supreme Court, where she could have an impact on America for the decades to come?
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:53 AM
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54. Right after I get done wanting to put my balls in a sharks mouth
eom
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:18 AM
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55. I'd gladly vote for her, but I don't know if she can win
It all depends on who the GOP runs.
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:40 AM
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56. Not me. She and Bill have become "sell-outs."
I still think BC was a great President-stateman. But they have sold-out to the right-wing, PNAC-neocons on too many occassions. And when Hillary would not support the Congressional Black Caucus in their attempt to call attention to the fraud and disenfranchisement of the voters during the 2000 election, I was really pissed with her and a the rest of the Dem senators, but her especially.
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:41 AM
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57. Not me.
I still think BC was a great President-stateman. But they have sold-out to the right-wing, PNAC-neocons on too many occassions. And when Hillary would not support the Congressional Black Caucus in their attempt to call attention to the fraud and disenfranchisement of the voters during the 2000 election, I was really pissed with her and a the rest of the Dem senators, but her especially.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:48 AM
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58. Many uninformed people have told me she'll be the candidate
I explaing to them that no Dems I know, either those at area Democratic meetings or county meetings, or those online, want her to be our candidate.

They don't even listen - just smugly tell me that I must be "out of the loop" - probably because idiots like Scarborough, Rush, etc, "know" she'll be running.
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CarpeVeritas Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:40 AM
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60. NO. WAY.
i NEVER want to see her run for the big chair.

the pukes are pushing her big time, in hopes of her winning the nomination, so that 2008 will be a cakewalk for them.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:06 PM
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63. Not me. We have plenty of better candidates. nt
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:08 PM
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64. Let them think that
They can go on deluding themselves, and we'll run a candidate that will kick Brother Jeb's ass in 2008.
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