My best friend was tombstoned. Fare thee well, ChavezSpeakstheTruth.

[RandomKoolzip]

I'm still not really sure what the fuck happened. I just know that I'm gonna miss him. We really revived a friendship here that had been dormant for a few years. We made each other laugh and gave each other support when going through bad times, and now that's over.

I get the feeling that he's not coming back. This REALLY REALLY sucks. I'm kinda mad at him, but I can't stay mad for long; he's not a very hatable guy. Right now, though, he's a jackass in my mind....this, right after *I* got tombstoned and re-instated. I cannot believe it.

Goodbye and Amen, Josh.

[wtmusic]

1. NFW!!!

I felt very tight with CSTT (something to do with John Coltrane and giving up drinking).

Godammit.

Have a link RKZ? :(

[RandomKoolzip]

5. No, I don't have alink. I'm trying to piece the story together myself.

Why, dude? Why?

[da_chimperor]

22. I'm gonna miss that guy

CSTT and I had some fun with josh_strength threads a while back, it was great. I really hope he comes back. Some lounge regulars may not have cared for him, but I certainly did.

[mike_c]

2. 3..., 2..., 1....

:nuke:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

3. check your pm

[Floogeldy]

4. Delete this thread

[Dookus]

47. is that a prayer? An invocation?

[RandomKoolzip]

55. I think it's a straightforward demand.

And I couldn't agree more. Chavez should never be allowed to see how my heartfelt epitath to him has devolved into petty infighting.....kinda like the Dem party in microcosm, isn't it?

[Kahuna]

67. DooKuuuus!!!!!! Glad you're back Dude!!!

:loveya:

[Dookus]

68. Thank you Kahuna!

It's nice to receive such nice welcomes.

[Kahuna]

72. Naturally, I thought of you tonight in light of the , eh hem..

events. I was hoping that you would someday do whatever was necessary to come back. And you did! :7

[Barney Rocks]

6. sorry!

[Bouncy Ball]

8. WHATEVER.

I'm not buying that load of bullshit.

Yeah, right.

There are RULES for posting here. If you break the rules, you are warned. No one is banned right off unless what they did is REALLY egregious.

If they keep it up (repeatedly) then YES, they are banned, and deservedly so. That's how this place stays decent, for crying out loud.

Go read the DU posting rules and while you are at it, ask all these "prominent" Democrats to tell you which ones THEY repeatedly broke to be banned.

On edit, since Barney Rocks deleted his post, I was responding to his allegations that he knows all these "prominent Democrats" who were banned from DU, one of them who supposedly decided to fight for bush in Ohio because he got banned from DU! ROFL!

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[Bouncy Ball]

13. I don't know who Baja Margie is or her husband.

So short of some details, I can't comment on that.

Pffff.

On edit, was Baja Margie you, by any chance?

[jonnyblitz]

16. they must have become bush supporters after getting banned.

please. :eyes:

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[Bouncy Ball]

20. If you don't like it

you are free to go.

And again, who is this Baja Margie? Or do you just bring up names and then not answer any questions?

[Bouncy Ball]

23. Crickets chirping......

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[Bouncy Ball]

28. Look

I'm not the DU welcome wagon. And I have precious little patience for people with as few posts as you have coming in here with snarky little comments about banned DUers.

Now either SPIT OUT what you want to say or this exchange is through.

And a word of advice: I'd watch it on the use of Nazi greetings.

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[da_chimperor]

34. Just out of curiosity, do you actually know when Bastille day is?

Without looking it up of course.

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[da_chimperor]

57. Lovely. It's a nice day, at least if you're in Paris.

The French really know how to throw a party, and how to set off a good fireworks display.

Edit: By the way, don't rag on CSTT, he was a great guy and a commited progressive.

[Bouncy Ball]

35. Oh well good, then slink off then.

[Susang]

37. Then stop posting on this thread, why don't you?

Please!

[RandomKoolzip]

30. Jesus, all of you shut the fuck up already.

You don't know what happened, and you are posting off-topic about shit that is completely unrealted to this thread.

Chavez was NOT a freeper. He was a dedicated liberal who took some famous pictures at the summer protest in NY wearing a T-shirt featuring a lot of prominent DUers' names. He LOVED DU.

Unfortunately, he did a really bad thing, and is now banned. But he was good guy and definitely NOT a freeper. So fuckin' DROP IT.

[yardwork]

32. You misunderstand. I thought I made it clear in my posts.

I'm not talking about Chavez at all. We're not supposed to talk about him.

I'm defending DU from some unfair slurs. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Chavez. I know he wasn't a freeper. I'm not discussing him at all.

I'm sorry about your friend. You sound upset.

[Bouncy Ball]

33. Hey Random

I'm not even TALKING about him! And I certainly would never say he was a freeper! That's crazy! I'm trying to catch me one!

(LOL!)

Sorry for being off topic in your thread.

[RandomKoolzip]

39. Then hit alert.

Someone's dignity is at stake here.

[Bouncy Ball]

42. Geez

I had no idea this was his funeral. I'm sorry. And for the record, I have hit alert.

Nevermind, I'm out.

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[da_chimperor]

71. Yeah . . . right. Enjoy your stay. n/t

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[imenja]

44. problem is

When we aren't allowed to know why someone was banned, it leads to wild speculation. I don't see why they couldn't give a general assessment of the type of rule he violated, without having to get too specific.
I have a hard time figuring out why some threads are locked and not others. The rules don't contain anywhere near the number of violations that moderators are concerned with. A more specific list would be helpful.

[yardwork]

11. You tell 'em, Bouncy Ball

I wouldn't normally have responded to this thread because Skinner asked us not to talk about the thread topic, but I wasn't going to let post #6 go by without a response. I'm glad that the poster thought better of it and deleted it.

We all post things in haste sometimes. Good for people who think better of it and use the self-delete button.

[Floogeldy]

12. Excuse me?

The original poster has not deleted his message.

[Bouncy Ball]

14. No, Barney Rocks did.

[yardwork]

15. I was referring to post #6

[Barney Rocks]

17. I did not do a background

check on the person--but he posted on demsonline.

All I said (in a very gentle manner) was that there are people out there who claim to be very bitter about being banned from DU. And this worries me. I don't want any Democrat to be angry or to turn away from activism--I want to encourage all Democrats. For me this site is therapeutic--I am sure that I am not the only one helped by being able to come here and vent. I don't want to see people become afraid to vent. That is all.

I deleted the comment--because I found out that all comments on this were supposed to be in one thread designated by Skinner.

[Bouncy Ball]

18. Be assured when people are banned from DU

it is NOT without reason.

Also these Democrats who tell you this could very well NOT be Democrats.

I wouldn't worry about it. We are just 60,000 people. 59 million people voted for Kerry. I doubt very seriously banning people for breaking the posting rules is going to make some kinda huge dent in the party. :eyes:

[Susang]

29. Why don't you guys start a thread about this topic?

Rather than threadjacking RKZ's thread about his BEST FRIEND? :eyes:

[RandomKoolzip]

36. Susan: WTF?!?

Can somebody tell me WHAT the fuck these people are talking about? I hope they're not insinuating that Chavez was a freeper. Because I will do everything in my power to defend my friend....and I am not above going down in flames as well to make sure his name is defended.

He deserves a better epitath than this bullshit.

[Susang]

40. Chavez was NOT A FREEPER!

If anyone says that, insinuates or implies that, hell, if they allow the implication to stand uncorrected, I will shout them down until they apologize to you, me and all of DU. :mad:

[Bouncy Ball]

46. Where are you guys reading this stuff???

No one on this ENTIRE thread has even insinuated as such. Not at all. We've just got a couple of trouble makers taking this opportunity to slam DU and myself, yardwork and a couple of others were defending DU.

Again, sorry this happened on this thread and I have hit alert on the posts.

[Bouncy Ball]

41. RANDOM

seriously, read all of this. These two, Barney Rocks and Bastille Day showed up and started slamming DU, insinuating that people are just randomly banned from here.

We are defending DU. I'm sorry they decided to show up in this thread of all places, but I'm not just going to sit by while they say really unfair things about this place.

No, none of this has to do with Chavez. I liked him, too!!! They aren't talking about him and neither am I!

[RandomKoolzip]

50. Sorry, man.

I'm just a teeny bit upset right now. I apologize for jumping down your throat.


I've already asked for the mods to delete this thread.

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[Bouncy Ball]

38. Oh, ok

sorry for threadjacking a thread that wasn't supposed to exist in the first place.

[Susang]

43. Man, you're cold

:scared:

[Bouncy Ball]

48. Seriously

what is the deal? I have all the respect in the world for both random and chavez, but didn't Skinner start that other thread and say that he did that because he didn't want any other threads about it? I don't personally care at all that random started this thread, but when all I am fucking doing is DEFENDING DU against a couple of little disruptors and then *I* get called on the carpet for it, damn, that's pretty cold.

[da_chimperor]

73. Technically . . . Skinner said this:

"I have no doubt that you all want to talk about this, and you want to talk about how much DU sucks, and you want to talk about what a super-duper guy ChavezSpeaksTheTruth is, and you want to talk about how you are certain he didn't deserve to be banned, and how the admins are a bunch of fascists. If you do, do it in this thread."

I see this thread more as a goodbye/homage to CSTT, rather than talking about what a super-guy he was or random bitching about DU mods (which I do not condone or agree with). I think that's why this thread is still up and active.

[RandomKoolzip]

76. I think I have the right to mourn for him on DU

seeing as how the guy IS my best friend and I was at work when all the shit went down.

But, since I have asked for the mods to delete this thread, I understand if they comply.

[jonnyblitz]

21. it doesn't bother you that the person(s) might have majorly

broken DU rules? just curious...I can understand peopleeing upset about somebody they like being banned but I just can't believe this very simple concept about rules escapes many of you.

[yardwork]

24. This site does encourage all Democrats imo

This site encourages Democrats who are serious about making a difference. It encourages us because it is a safe place to read and post. It wouldn't be a safe or pleasant place if disruptors were allowed to disrupt.

I can think of so many problems that disruptors have caused. (I'm not talking about people getting banned for goofing around in the Lounge - I'm talking about the real freeper disruptors.) So many attempts to mess with our minds and spread lies and disinformation.

I was here the night that Phil Parlock was outed. If you want to see an example of DU at its best - and freeper disruptors at their worst - read all the archived threads about that.

I've been here so many days and nights when disruptors have deliberately dragged lies over here, attempted to plant false information, tried psy-ops on us, etc.

They are still out there trying to mess with our minds. Don't listen.

[yardwork]

9. I don't doubt that you have met folks who claim to have banned from DU

but remember that DU attracts a whole lot of disruptors. People who pretend to be liberals on this board and eventually get banned because they are really freeper disruptors would not hesitate to continue bad-mouthing DU after they got banned, if you follow me.

I'm not talking about the poster in question - not suggesting that anybody in particular is a freeper or disruptor. Just pointing out that a whole lot of disruptors bother this board on a daily basis.

This is the best-moderated board I've ever been on, which is why I stay and post here a lot. I hope everything works out for everyone involved, but I have nothing but praise for the admins and mods here.

Nothing but praise.

[necso]

7. You might want to read this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=2421010&mesg_id=2421010

[RandomKoolzip]

45. Mods: go ahead and delete this thread.

Just exactly what is wrong with DU that I can't even post a simple epitath for my best friend without a fuckin' donnybrook erupting?

You all need to step back and look at how you're behaving. It's not pretty.

[Bouncy Ball]

49. Edited

All I was doing was defending DU. The subthreads had nothing to do with Chavez and I have apologized repeatedly that this happened.

I don't see either one of the two who started this shit apologizing.

Nevermind. I am truly sorry Random.

[RandomKoolzip]

51. You're right.

Me thinks we all need to be spanked and put to bed.


I'm not supposed to be referencing Chavez anyway, according to the thread I just read, so this ought to be banned.

Everyone: go to bed. Please.

[Bouncy Ball]

52. ...

:hug: for you random

[slutticus]

56. Nooooooo!!!!!

Don't stop fighting! I'm bored. Entertain me some more! :evilgrin:

j/k

Damn. Now I have to do my work. :(

No one's allowed to go to bed. Everyone has to stay up with me.

[RandomKoolzip]

59. I can't stay up.

It's too painful.

Sandman, come and get me......

[slutticus]

60. I just made some coffee.....want some?

[RandomKoolzip]

62. I'll take a hot NyQuil-atte, if you got one.

[yardwork]

54. It's ok Random. It's not your fault.

It's been a perfectly horrible week for reasons beyond all our control.

Have a good sleep.

[RandomKoolzip]

58. Thanks and good night.

I never expected DU to become like this. It's like a soap opera....I think we're all ODing on tragedy (myself included) and need a break.

[norml]

64. The only thing I can't believe is that I've never been banned.

What with my not having ever read the rules and my no sex thread questionings.

[Guaranteed]

66. Well, that probably just

means that he did something pretty bad.

I have no clue as to what it was, though.

I know I've pushed it, too, but never been banned.

Must have been something.

[RandomKoolzip]

70. Check your PM.

[Kahuna]

65. Sorry for you and Chavez.. I never had a problem with him..

Tell him, hello from Kahuna. If he says, "kahuna who," then give him five across the eyes for me. :P

[underseasurveyor]

75. Oh no

Damn I liked him too:thumbsup:
:-(