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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:03 PM
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Poll question: Smartest Person Of All Time
Edited on Wed Oct-01-03 05:10 PM by Magic Rat
It ain't me folks.

:)

oh, and I should add, I'm voting for Archimedes, if you don't know who he is you should really research him. I think you'll find he's by far smarter than the more well-known candidates like DaVinci and Einstein.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:04 PM
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1. uhm... it's DaVinci...
just a heads up... ;-)
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 07:24 PM
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36. Actually it's DiVinci.
Anyway, that's how I always see it spelled.
Duckie
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 10:12 AM
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55. not to mountanize a molehill, but
Dan Brown's best seller is "The Da Vinci Code" and I think he would know.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:04 PM
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2. D'uh me
I say Issac Newton.
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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:05 PM
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3. I voted for Albert
But I really think that title may go to Ben Franklin.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:08 PM
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4. indeed.. Ben was a very wise man....
Albert has been someone I've admired since I was in grade school. I can remember drawing pictures of him. I think, though, that for all around rennaisance-man-type smarts, I've got to go with DaVinci. He was light years ahead of his time.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 01:38 PM
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61. Franklin was also blessed with a high EQ
or a lotta emotional intelligence. He wasn't the befuddled scientist, he was the whole package. Well, maybe not the whole - he wasn't exactly an attractive man, was he? But, from all soudns he did well with the women, msut have been a real character. He and I share a birthday, and that is about it...
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:08 PM
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5. Not to nit-pick, but shouldn't this have been "Smartest Person..."
Edited on Wed Oct-01-03 06:04 PM by boxster
unless there's something about Marilyn I'm unaware of.

Edit: minor grammatical correction

Edit2: just in case you wonder what the hell I'm talking about, the posting was originally "Smartest Man...."
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 09:54 AM
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52. Congrats boxster!! 200 posts
:toast:
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:08 PM
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6. Da Vinci
Edited on Wed Oct-01-03 05:09 PM by Maple
And it's my theory that 'he' was actually Leanora DaVinci
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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:09 PM
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7. Ach, no Plato?
Also, Franklin and Jefferson could qualify
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:09 PM
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8. Emanuel Stuart
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:10 PM
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9. Richard Feynman
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LoneStarLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:34 PM
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28. Huzzah for Feynman!
I'd say Feynman and John von Neumann before any of those listed above.
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CPschem Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:10 PM
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10. Where are the philosophers??
c'mon now!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:32 PM
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26. Yeah that's what I'm sayin'!
I wanna see Plato or Aristotle up there. Maybe a Kant or two.
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:10 PM
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11. Or Stephen Hawking
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:57 PM
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47. I was going to suggest him, - and maybe Paul A.M. Dirak,
Edited on Wed Oct-01-03 09:59 PM by SOteric
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:10 PM
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12. Charles Darwin.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:11 PM
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13. Nicolaus Copernicus
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:14 PM
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14. It's a sad fuckin' commentary...
when the only woman on that list is Marilyn vos Savant. *sigh*
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:17 PM
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15. who else?
would you have chosen...and whom would you have tossed off?
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:22 PM
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18. Marie Curie
Toss off Swedenborg. Not because he's not valuable, but because most of your choices are scientists, not philosophers/theologians.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 07:30 PM
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40. Madame Curie is a good choice...
so is Hypatia.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:53 PM
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46. Hypatia?
Who is she? I want to learn someone new.
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:15 PM
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48. She gets my vote!
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:19 PM
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16. Isaac Newton is a pretty good choice.
But I think Ludwig Wittgenstein might have been the smartest ever. Alan Turing maybe was even smarter. Richard Feynman was brilliant.
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:21 PM
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17. Davinci..
um, I thought he was an artist...
?

how does throwing paint indicate high intelligence?
Einstein all the way.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:23 PM
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19. Davinci invented shit
go look him up.

:eyes:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 10:10 AM
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54. You mean before Da Vinci there was no shit?
Damn.
What did people do?
;-)
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:24 PM
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20. DaVinci was more than just an artist
he was an inventor, philosopher, engineer... just a great all around visionary, IMHO.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:25 PM
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22. You should read up on Davinci.
He was much more than just a painter.

Hey! How come I'm not on the poll?

(oh, yeah.)
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:25 PM
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23. DaVinci was the archtypical Renaissance Man
Painter, sculptor, architect, engineer, philosopher...

What else did he do?
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:24 PM
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21. It shocks me nobody else is voting for Archimedes
He basically fought off the entire Roman army by himself. He invented stuff that is just unbelievable.

Please, go look the guy up.
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:26 PM
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24. Yeah, Archimedes was pretty incredible
So was Eratostheses of Cyrene... the first (documented) measurement of the circumference of the earth.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:30 PM
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25. hey, you're skewing your poll...
by making suggestions like that... you may be right though...;-)
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:33 PM
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27. Hmmmm, good list as far as it goes,
but it's European guys? Mostly scientists, mathematicians? No musicians? No Asians, one woman? How intelligent was Queen Elizabeth I, for instance? Or Lao Tzu?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
But of that list, it's a tough choice between Archimedes and Gauss. Did you hear that recent computer enhancement of an old manuscript palimpsest showed Archie damn near invented calculus?
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:39 PM
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30. I saw that show on PBS
I had no idea. I liked that he was able to derive the relative volumes of a sphere inscribed in a cylinder. Oh, here is a website that talks about it. The interesting thing is you need calculus like ideas to derive this relationship.

http://scidiv.bcc.ctc.edu/Math/ArchimedesTombstone.html
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:41 PM
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31. yes
that's where I got the idea for this question from. I was just amazed at what the guy was able to come up with in his head. He managed to figure out a formula for infinity for jeebers sake!

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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:34 PM
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29. I my field of physics
it is probably a toss up between Newton and Einstein. Newton was far ahead of his time and invented Calculus (independently of Leibniz), a whole branch of mathematics, in order to solve certain physics problems not to mention being a good inventor (e.g. reflecting telescope). Einstein and General Relativity was the most revolutionary idea in the last few hundred years (with quantum physics which he did not like but contributed to anyway a close second). No one else was even asking the right questions when he was working on GR. Einstein was about 30-50 years ahead of his time. I would probably go with Einstein, but that is just a personal bias of mine. Recall Time named Einstein man of the 20th century a few years ago. Feynman was also brilliant, but not quite as revolutionary as Newton or Einstein. Hawking and Kip Thorne are also quite brilliant.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 10:08 AM
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53. Roger Penrose, Too!
Hawking referred, in print, to Penrose as the smartest guy he had ever met. Given the circles in which Hawking runs, that's high praise, indeed.
The Professor
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 06:30 PM
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32. In terms of IQ it is none of the above
I believe James Stuart Mill, the philosopher and author of Utilitarianism was the smartest man ever. (If you count IQ)

On this list I would say either the visionary Da Vinci or the otherworldy Einstein--
I would say Einstein, for being able to think of such abstract ideas which have stood up to every single test science has performed on them
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theemu Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 07:02 PM
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33. It's been said that right behind JS Mill is..
Goethe.
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SPICYHOT Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 07:09 PM
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34. UHHHH i'm not in your list
how come???:wtf:
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 07:19 PM
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35. Feynman or Hawking
Utterly brilliant men...I'm convinced that our children will look on them as we look on Einstein. Kip Thorne should probably be on that list too. I met Mr. Thorne at CalTech a number of years back and had a brief discussion with him about gravitational wave deflection (anti-gravity). I'm pretty well versed in all forms of physics, but the man just blew me away with his innate understanding of the workings of our universe on a quantum scale (for the record, he stated that anti-gravity devices may be theoretically possible, but he wasn't holding his breath).
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 07:27 PM
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37. Stephen Hawking.
Edited on Wed Oct-01-03 07:28 PM by northwest
Although maybe Einstein was as smart. Stephen Hawking has a better understanding of the universe than probably any other human who ever lived.

On edit: I've read a couple of Hawking's books, and he probably talks about the most deep stuff of any person. It's like he's stoned.:-) I like how he intertwines the attributes of theology with super-cosmic study.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 07:29 PM
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38. Where is Sharon Stone????
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:49 PM
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45. She's out taking her MENSA exam...
again and again and again.

:toast:
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 07:30 PM
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39. What about that Arabic guy who discovered math???
Forgot his name. He came up with algebra.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 08:31 PM
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42. I believe his name was
Al-Jebra.
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 07:34 PM
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41. Here's another woman to consider
Mary. You know the one. Look what she started, as per the old story:



Joseph: Aw, shit, your old man is gonna kill me.

Mary: Don't worry, I thought up a great story.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 08:32 PM
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43. Tesla
The mad genius who invented alternating current.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 08:33 PM
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44. Benjiman Franklin n/t
n/t
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:29 PM
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49. Johann von Goerthe.
Faust = the shit.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:32 PM
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50. Benjamin Franklin
He was one of a few great men in a great moment of History.

He discovered, invented, penned, negotiated and worked his way toward a Mastery that is truly inspiring... and all with a GREAT sense of humor!
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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:34 PM
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51. George W Bush
HAHAHAHAHAHAH jk! :D Albert Einstein!
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StrongBad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 10:55 AM
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56. Immanuel Kant
n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 11:15 AM
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57. Gauss
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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 11:28 AM
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58. magic rat may be the smartest but
he does indeed know who was the smartest.

BTW under the if a tree falls in the forest heading.

It was Archimedes who discovered many of the things you attribute to

Newton. It was just not known till recently when a copy of Archimedes

"The method" was at last rediscovered and translated.

Here is a link to a bit about it.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/archimedes/lrk_biography.html

Not to take anything away from Newton but Archimedes had already

discovered Calculus 1900 years before Newton when the climate for

discovery was far less populated.
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 11:40 AM
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59. I didn't recognize two or three of the names on this poll
So I assume that I'm out of the running!
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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 01:09 PM
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60. down but not out ritc2750
just fork over the cure for cancer or better yet

the cure for ignorance & you are in the running.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 01:41 PM
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62. You forgot "The Smartest Man in America"
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