There is not one piece of Opera that I can tolerate.

[Wat_Tyler]

Berate me.

[Fenris]

1. I like Wagner

But then again, I'm also a rabid anti-semite.

[Wat_Tyler]

5. Yes.

I blame the Jews for my dislike of Opera. Particularly Jackie Mason.

[Orangepeel]

2. she's not so bad...

I kind of like the Oxygen network.

;-)

[Trajan]

3. I learned to at least appreciate it ...

When I saw 'Amadeus' the first time .... Something about Mozart's magic that made it more palatable for me ....

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

4. But if the fat lady didn't sing, how the hell would you know it's OVER?

I mean, THINK about it!

:evilgrin:

[terrya]

6. I can't even tolerate rock operas, let alone the traditional kind.

I'm not going to berate you. I agree. Ugh.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

7. Hear hear. Compulsory ads in a browser? Gimme a break. (nt)

[Elidor]

8. You've never heard Rossini's Duet for Two Cats

It's the opera equivalent of a DU cat-pics thread.

[joeybee12]

9. How can you say that when there's "Carmen"?????

[Wat_Tyler]

10. Not even Carmen - too bombastic and over-mannered.

Now that I think about it, I might be able to tolerate Brecht and Weill's Threepenny Opera, but I wouldn't be happy about having to do so.

[joeybee12]

14. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

And Boo Again!

I loves it!

[mcscajun]

47. I love "Carmen" … but I think all Opera is something you have to see live

first, then you can enjoy it for the music alone, later.

[Aristus]

11. Give yourself a chance.

When my Korn-fan step-daughter heard the Queen of the Night aria, from Mozart's "The Magic Flute" she said: "Wow! That is SO Cool!"

[sui generis]

12. oh come on! opera is cool

it's an art form where people have learned to use their voices as real instruments. If you've ever been in a recital and heard someone go into "head voice" you'd know how extraordinarily powerful some voices are.

It's also emotionally over-indulgent, has librettos that sound like they were written by a petulant child, and great sweeping melo-drama. And cool sets. It's fun - but you have to approach it like that. Nobody takes old hack pieces seriously -

[Magrittes Pipe]

13. Not even "The War of the Worlds?"

[Wat_Tyler]

16. That's more of a comic musical, though.

(adopts booming Richard Burton voice) 'Who would've believed in the last years of the twentieth century mankind would make such ridiculously bombastic records that never, ever, ever end?'

[sui generis]

15. Florence Foster Jenkins you gotta listen to this

http://bassocantante.com/opera/curiosity.html

what a hoot

[Wat_Tyler]

17. Woah!

Talk about overwhelming.

[sui generis]

18. see - you CAN be entertained by opera or it's very weak semblance

not only a hoot, but a screech

[Susang]

19. What about operetta?

C'mon, you don't like any Gilbert and Sullivan? Just a bit?

[Wat_Tyler]

20. Nope - I understand it's very clever and all, but it just seems silly.

And bad silly at that.

[Susang]

42. That's sort of the point, really.

There's a *bad* silly? I don't think so! :P

[mcscajun]

46. Silly in the extreme…and a great deal of fun: Die Fledermaus

And all that Strauss waltz magic to boot!

[Kellanved]

21. Hmm... Bieito's staging of the "Die Entfuehrung aus dem Serail" ...

might do the trick.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20040628-0529-arts-germany-sex.html

http://www.kultur-fibel-magazin.de/Kultur%20Fibel,%20Oper,%20Entf%FChrung%20a-d%20Serial-1-Bieito.htm

[Wat_Tyler]

23. Sex-laced Mozart? Torture, masturbation, cross-dressing and pimping?

I may have to rethink my standpoint.

[eyepaddle]

22. Always with the negativity.....

Sheesh.

Hey who composed Carima Burana--quite possibly your all time bombast leader? ;)

[Wat_Tyler]

24. Carl Orff.

[eyepaddle]

25. Thanks,

However, I gotta know your take on Trans-Siberian Orchestra.

And don't sugar coat goddammit! I wanna know the truth!

[Wat_Tyler]

26. I've no knowledge of their stuff.

Though I am, naturally, suspicious. }(

[eyepaddle]

33. Occasionally I've been known to get a kick out of it,

but the live shows are great. I missed gigantic, overblown, bloated rock and roll extravaganzas like we used to get in the '80s. I'm talkin' pyro, dry ice, strobe lights and goddamned string section in an NHL Hockey rink! You'd absolutely HATE it.

Sometimes I miss bloated arena rock....

on edit--proofread

[SOteric]

27. Tommy?

[Wat_Tyler]

30. The film is dreadful - Ken Russell ruins it for me.

But, yes, even Tommy is something I have very little time for.

[Monkey see Monkey Do]

28. What about "Jerry Springer: The Opera"?

with such intensely beautiful lines as "three nippled cousin fucker"!!

[Wat_Tyler]

32. Lee and Herring are rather funny.

Not sure that would count as an opera - but then, I haven't seen it.

[radwriter0555]

29. La Boheme... now TELL me how can that aria NOT send shivers

up and down your spine each and EVERY time?

We're going to the opera in Venice on 11 February... La finta semplice by Mozart, written when he was 12, SIMPLY for the AMAZEMENT of going to the Opera at La Fenice in Venice... the recently restored opera houses of all Opera Houses....

**sigh**





PINCH me, I'm so lucky!

[XNASA]

31. What if it was Rick Wakeman's La Bohème on Ice?

Do you think you would be able to tolerate it then?

[Wat_Tyler]

34. OF COURSE!

The mere mention of the idea of it makes my nipples explode with delight!

[XNASA]

36. All 8?

[Wat_Tyler]

37. No.

One is faulty. :evilfrown:

[XNASA]

40. I'm sorry to hear that.

There's really nothing like an 8 nipple explosion for my money.

[Wat_Tyler]

38. No.

One is faulty. :evilfrown:

[Cheswick2.0]

35. not even on bugs bunny cartoons?

I heard a really cool anvil chorus on bugs bunny one time.
By the way, it is from an opera about a woman who watches her mother burn at the stake on the orders of an evil counts. So when she grows up she kidnaps the counts son and one night as all the gypsys gather around the fire she throws the baby on for revenge. Just as the child is dying in the flames she realizes it was her own son she immolated. So she goes a bit batty and raises the counts son as her own. When he grows up, she gets him to kills the counts other son, his brother, to avenge the death of her mother (by singing a duet with him about revenge and thrusting swords and stuff). Some other people die, there is a tragic love story, she sings lots of nutty arias about people in flames......
How could you not like something like that?

[Wat_Tyler]

39. Hmm. That's a lot to take in.

Where's my peyote?

[rug]

41. I'm with you

I got your back.

Bourgeois overwrought drivel.

[Wat_Tyler]

43. Hooray! We can form the pro-united Ireland, anti-Opera League!

PUIAOL!

[MrSlayer]

44. Not even the Bugs Bunny opera?

KILL THE WABBIT! KILL THE WABBIT!

[Wat_Tyler]

45. Well, it is better, but it doesn't quite get me.