Telepathy

[dreamcollector]

Many serious dream researchers, and I am one, believe that telepathy frequently occurs in dreams. It is especially true if someone has strong feelings about the person who is dreaming. Imagine what troubled dreams George W Bush must have when so many people all over the world feel so strongly about the man. When he is asleep people in other parts of the world are thinking angry thoughts about him. I intend to direct a few messages to him before I go to sleep each night whenever I remember to do so. Any suggestions?

[NYC Liberal]

1. I wouldn't want to think about him

just before going to sleep. I think it'd give ME nightmares. :scared:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. make sure you have protection

this may sound silly, but if your thoughts go to him, his could come back to you. Just a suggestion that you surround yourself with white light or something.

[dreamcollector]

5. I totally agree

Not silly at all.

[jeff30997]

6. And to be even more safe...

Surround yourself with garlic.

[dreamcollector]

9. Good one

Thanks for the laugh.

[BigMcLargehuge]

47. and wear aluminum foil pajamas

[Theres-a]

49. HAHAHA!!!

:hi: :yourock:

[Dookus]

14. So now Bush

is a dark creature of dreams?

I despair for my country when so-called thinking people believe this stuff.

[dreamcollector]

15. Sorry but hard science and mainstream psychology is resisting

documented evidence of precognition and telepathy in dreams. God knows why legitimate work of parapsychologists is still being denigrated. Evidence has been accumulating since the 60s. I grant you that there are plenty of fakers out there but don't sneer until you have researched the subject. I am a very skeptical person but have been gathering dreams since 1975 and the evidence for telepathy and precognition is overwhelming.

[TNDemo]

16. I can verify that.

I have absolutely no way to explain it but I have had precognitive dreams on a number of occasions. A few years ago I dreamed three times in a row my father was about to die. He died the next day unexpectedly while mowing the yard. My sister and my aunt (we were all in different cities) had the dream too. None of us were in the town he was and by the time I got someone to go check on him (he could not be seen from the road, he was at the bottom of the hill behind his house) he had been dead over 24 hours. I would love to have a rational explanation as to how three of us knew this before it happened.

[barackmyworld]

21. it's called statistics

1) you have dreampt thousands of things that have not happened
2) dreaming about someone dying is not uncommon
3) millions of people have dreampt about people dying, and it hasn't happened

There is a very reasoned and concrete explanation of this in the book "Innumeracy" by John Allen Paulos. A misunderstanding of statistics makes people drastically underestimate coincidence.

[Dookus]

23. Yep!

The "hits" stand out strongly, but ignore the thousands of "misses" that occur yearly.

We think about our friends all the time. Probably a hundred times a day. ONCE in a great while, one of those friends will call while we're thinking about them (or more likely, within a day or two of our thinking about them, and we remember it differently). We consider that an astounding occurrence.

We never bother to note how many thousands of times we think about somebody who DOESN'T call us.

I have dreamt or "felt" many, many times that one of my parents has died. They're both still alive and going strong.

[TNDemo]

24. How many times have you had a dream shared by two

other people with whom you had not spoken in a good while and that dream became reality the next day?

[Dookus]

25. The questions that immediately come to mind

include:

Did the people who had this dream record the fact they had this dream before hearing about the death? Was there any reason why his health might be a topic of concern for family members? Did you, or others, ever dream about a death that did NOT occur?

[TNDemo]

26. Everyone told other people about their dream.

My sister was camping, jumped up that morning and ran through the park looking for someone with a cell phone. She called him (did not tell him why) and asked how he was doing. He said he was fine. He died less than an hour later. She had taken him to the doctor that week and he had gotten a clean bill of health. We were unable to find her for another day since she was camping but her husband and his family were aware of her dream.

My aunt (my mother's sister - my parents had divorced 30 years earlier) called me and told me her dream. I told her I had had the same dream but I was looking for him and could not get an answer at his house. So there was no way we could have known about each other.

[dreamcollector]

28. Experienced dream researchers have difficulty distinguishing

We err on the side of caution. Death is usually interpreted as change and not taken literally. This happened at my group. A member's son dreamed the concord took off, went up, flipped over on it's back and crashed onto a big white building. We considered the possibilty it was precognitive. Decided no, "Since when does the concord ever crash?" Two weeks later it crashed. At the next dream group nobody recalled the dream except the mother. Her son denied he had dreamed it. Twelve members of the group said she hadn't mentioned it. She asked me to check my notes of the meeting and there it was. "Don't be silly, since when does the concord ever crash?" There are thousands of dreams of plane crashes which are usually symbolic. There are more precognitive dreams that go unremarked than erroneous and "coincidental" reports. You over-estimate the credulity of serious dream researchers. Thousands of very detailed reports of jets crashing into buildings were recorded for 9?11 way beyond the usual crop of plane crash dreams. Our group said the concord dream meant the dreamer's father-in-laws business deal would go belly-up. Cut us more slack, will yu?

[Dookus]

18. Perhaps because

people who actually KNOW something about science realize that there is precious little "legitimate" work of parapsychologists.

There's no reason why legitimate research would be rejected - anybody who can prove the existence of telepathy and precognition would become world-famous, instantly rich, and win a Nobel prize. They would join the pantheon that includes Copernicus, Galileo, Einstein, Darwin, Pasteur, the Curies, et. al.

Science consistently and with great regularity reports new paradigms that shake up established thinking. There is nothing about the process that PREVENTS legitimate new ideas from getting their fair airing.

[dreamcollector]

29. Boy are you naive!

You must be very young. New paradigms have an incredible uphill slog. Read Thomas Khun's THE STRUCTURE OF SCIENTIFIC REVOLUTIONS. Those in academic positions of power are very defensive. How many scientists with revolutionary discoveries were sneered at? The more revolutionary the more they were ridiculed.

[RandomKoolzip]

31. Dookus "naive?" Uh...no.

[Susang]

35. Hee hee

Get ready for it. :nuke:

[arwalden]

44. Well... He Does Look Young For His Age.

He's holding up very well... considering. :hi:

[Susang]

46. Doesn't he?

The bastard! :mad:

[Dookus]

50. Young?

No, but thanks for thinking so.

Yes, many groundbreaking ideas were ridiculed... or at least criticized. That's a good thing. When the evidence became overwhelming in favor of them, they were accepted.

However, that is not to say that every idea that is ridiculed eventually is proven true - that's a tired old saw that all the wrong people haul out.

New ideas are accepted all the time. Plate Tectonics is a new theory that seemed very odd at first, but is now accepted. Evolution is another. Even recently, the idea that stomach ulcers are caused by h. pylori was radical, and then accepted.

Provide the right evidence, and all sorts of wacky ideas will be accepted.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

19. no, you didn't get the point of the posts

re read the initial post.

Don't knock other's beliefs, please. You are entitled to your opinions, but so are we.

[Dookus]

20. I never said you can't believe what you want

go crazy.

Do you believe you can't knock other people's beliefs? Does that include fundamentalist right-wingers? After all, they're entitled to their opinions, no?

Sorry, but it's perfectly legitimate to disagree with people's beliefs, especially on a discussion board.

[Susang]

38. Particularly when there's a protected group for this type of post

If the OP wishes to avoid disagreement and dissent. ;-)

[shreck]

30. I use

a tinfoil hat.}(

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

55. White light is an excellent idea. You can also say

May light and love surround me in my endeavors. I will it so, so be it.

[slutticus]

58. A good Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram should do it

:evilgrin:

You know...before you sleep.

[benburch]

3. I *knew* you were going to post that! nt

[stellanoir]

4. It would appear

that the man is totally unresponsive, completely unconscious, and totally clueless. Many psychopaths sadly, simply don't remember their dreams.

Good luck with your venture though.

It may have a cumulative result.

[dreamcollector]

8. I count on a cumulative effect

He must have had a terrible sleep on November 2nd. I agree he's a psychopath. I checked him out on the Hare scale. Cheney also.

[BrklynLiberal]

7. I still have my " W" voodoo doll hanging upsidedown filled with pins in

all the vital points, and a big, sharp fishknife right thru his middle.

[dreamcollector]

10. Every little bit helps

I'm sorry I didn't buy that doll they put out after he did his swagger walk for MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. That doll would die a thousand deaths.

[madison2000]

11. I get the impression that he is impervious to the world around him.

He doesn't read mail or email. He doesn't read books or newspapers. He selects people to be in his inner circle who reinforce everything he says and never disagree with him. He does not even allow them to give him negative news, and if they do he throws fits and tantrums. He takes responsibility for nothing.

At the end of 2001 he said it had been a great year for himself and Laura. The worst intelligence failure in the history of our nation happened on his watch and it didn't bother him a bit. He sat in a classroom while buildings burned and did nothing, and when he did his thoughts were only for his own safety. He stood with the firemen at ground zero for a photo op, but he is a narcissist, incapable of feeling anyone elses pain. I think getting through to an inanimate object would be easier than getting through to W.

[Straight Shooter]

12. Some helpful hints I received from a very clairvoyant friend of mine

1. Never wish ill upon another; instead, wish for positive outcomes for the adversaries of that person. (Keep positive thoughts for Democrats and eliminate thinking of bush; turn him into a non-entity.)

2. Ask for a solution in your dreamlife for the problems we face in dealing with GWB. You might be surprised at the answers which the Universe provides. Try to avoid "wishful thinking" in divining the answers, and of course watch for those fun puns :D

3. GWB as an entity is an "untouchable," in that he is protected by forces which seek to destroy. Sending negativity to him only increases his ability to destroy because it is absorbed by the forces around him, and consequently magnified.

4. Remember that we are still stuck in a material world. Take action whenever possible, and keep it positive. Everything that goes around does indeed come around (even if sometimes it feels like forever for the cycle to complete.)

Hope this helps. And, here's a terrific dream interpretation site: http://www.dreamhawk.com/d-dic.htm#index

[BrklynLiberal]

13. Excellent advice, but sometimes the disgust and anger get the best of me.

[dreamcollector]

17. I am ashamed of myself for wishing another human being ill

I guess I just lost it. I have been trying to contact Straight Shooter about her dream of John Kerry. I sent her an email but she hasn't picked it up. I haven't seen a post of SS for quite some time. Tell her to check her inbox.

[Enquiringkitty]

22. We can all wish upon GWB that when he wakes up

he will be filled with compassion and love for all of humanity and wishes to bring understanding and tolerance to the world instead of bombs and fear. That would be positive wouldn't it? Think it would work?

[rug]

27. You will receive my response Wednesday night

[Wat_Tyler]

32. If telepathy exists - how come it hasn't been scientifically proven?

It would seem to be simple - you predict something, it happens - bingo! Telepathy proven.

[dolo amber]

33. Oy.

:eyes:

[Dr J]

34. it's been scientifically proven that....

you can increase your brainwave echo transmission rate and scope by drilling a small hole in your forehead.


you should try it.

[asthmaticeog]

40. It didn't work out so well for me.

After I got my forehead drilled, I started believing in astrology, chemtrails, and the super-healing power of magnetic bracelets. The bone reconstruction I had to undergo to correct those terrifying side effects was painful and costly.

Welcome to DU. :hi:

[Magrittes Pipe]

42. Dumbass.

It would've been a lot cheaper just to get your chakras realigned.

Don't you know where to find a good chi-ropractor?

[Dr J]

48. rimshot:

Brrrm, TSH!

[Susang]

36. I dream I see spiders all the time!

Then I see a spider, so that proves I must be telepathic, right? And that the spiders know I hate and fear them?

Or does it prove that I hate and fear spiders and my dreams are a way of processing that fear?

There's a lot of new information regarding the role of dreams in our psychological health, I suggest you look into it. You don't project your hopes of telepathy to make this a fascinating subject.

[Magrittes Pipe]

37. STOP STEALING MY DIMES!!!1

I need them for my LUNCH!! The dimes are shiny in my mind's eye. Shiny! SHINY!!!1

I KNOW you're looking at me!

[Susang]

39. I took them

They are mine. You can't have them anymore.

You want them for bad things. I know what you do with them and you don't use them for lunch, you dirty man! Telepathy works both ways, bucko! :P

[asthmaticeog]

41. There are still peep booths that take DIMES?

[Magrittes Pipe]

43. That is my lunch.

Tasty AND nutritious!

[Susang]

45. Ewwwww

Now you're never getting them back. Ever. :puke:

[Donkeyboy75]

51. That happened to me once.

I had a dream I was drowning in milk. The next morning, I woke up, and my mom asked if I wanted milk in my cereal!!!! Amazing!!!

[Wat_Tyler]

52. 10 years ago, I dreamt that someone was going to die.

Imagine my surprise when, exactly 8 years, 6 months and 30 days TO THE DAY! I stubbed my toe.

[Donkeyboy75]

53. You clearly have a gift.

Will you do my horoscope? I only know that I have a testicle descending in Libra.

[Wat_Tyler]

54. YOU ARE GOING TO DIE.

SOMETIME WITHIN THE NEXT 600 YEARS.

ON A WEDNESDAY.

OR MAYBE A TUESDAY.

NO.

DEFINITELY A WEDNESDAY.

[Donkeyboy75]

56. oh no!

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

[Wat_Tyler]

57. CRYING WILL NOT STOP THE CRUSHING INEVITABILITY OF IT.

FOR IT IS YOUR FATE.

[Lizzie Borden]

59. What if you dream at night that certain things will happen and

the next day they happen exactly the way you dreamed them? That's happened to me, and it does give one pause....