Randi Rhodes is defending Hillary's stand in finding "common ground"

[BrklynLiberal]

wiht pro-lifers. Sorry, but I totally disagree with her, and agree with the guy on the phone.

[bluetrain]

1. me too

she completely twisted his words

[skypilot]

2. I didn't hear the entire call but...

...I think that this statement from Hillary is probably what sticks in alot of people's craw:

"I for one respect those who believe with all their heart and conscience that there are no circumstances under which abortion should be available."

Quite frankly, that statement is what rubbed me wrong.

[russian33]

4. She can respect them, but that doesn't necessarily mean she agrees..

..with them.

I respect relegious people who believe in God and Jesus, but I don't agree with them. just my 2 cents

[skypilot]

5. I guess it depends...

...on how much one respects them. I certainly don't respect any abortion opponent who'd bomb a clinic or harrass a woman seeking to have an abortion. And I can't bring myself to respect someone who would deny an abortion to a woman who'd been raped.

"...there are no circumstances under which abortion should be available" is a sentiment with which I don't agree and one which I also don't respect. It's just far too extreme.

[Left Is Write]

9. I don't respect that extreme view either.

But I do try to respect people who are consistent and honest in their views (and not hypocrites about them).

I wonder how some of the extremists would feel if it were their own daughter who was unexpectedly pregnant, already had three children who needed her, and was told she must abort or face almost certain death due to recurring hormone-driven cancer? I knew someone in just those circumstances.

[russian33]

13. Oh well yes, you're 100% correct there

That always amazed me about those pro-life wackos...They don't mind killing to save a life? And that makes sense because?????

[OnionPatch]

3. I sort of agree with her

not to defend Hillary in any other area, but I do agree that we should focus on abortion being rare. I really do think we need to find a way to talk to people who are supposedly against legalized abortion. They need to realize that making it illegal is a mistake, yes and I don't think we should pander to people who terrorize women at clinics, but there are a lot of middle of the road people who are against abortion and I do believe we should address this concern and do some things to make them more rare.

[BrklynLiberal]

7. They were rarer under Clinton than they have been under Bush.

These people are not out to make abortions rare. They are out to control women's lives.

[redqueen]

10. Bingo!

This isn't about making abortions rare, or they'd back sex-ed.

[Left Is Write]

11. It seems some of the extreme anti-choicers are not willing

to do what it takes to make abortions more rare - easy and affordable access to health care for women, easy and affordable access to contraceptives, and lots of education starting from childhood. Some of these people seem to want to believe that poverty doesn't exist, that people aren't really having sex, and that teaching abstinence somehow works to prevent unplanned pregnancies.

[BrklynLiberal]

6. "Common ground" or "compromise" to the pro-lifers that I have met

means "MY Way". There is no room for real compromise in the policies they preach. If they are against abortion, and in that policy they also prevent distribution of birth control, AIDS health information here and in other countries, sex education, and even the funding of organizations that do any of the above...where do you see room for any common ground or compromise in these policies.
No one WANTS an abortion when faced with the necessity of one, but to have the option is not something I am willing to compromise about.
I am also unwilling to deny women any of the other reproductive rights and freedoms that I mentioned above, all of which the "pro-lifers" want to deny women.
They use the word "abortion" to cover an entire universe of processes and information that they would deny women around the world.
EDIT: In the US military a woman can now get a breast enlargement paid for, but cannot get an abortion paid for.

Pharmacists can legally deny a woman birth control pills if it is against their "conscience". Can they do the same for Viagra?

[jonnyblitz]

8. "common ground" is a two way street. n/t

[laura888]

12. I agreed with the caller as well.

Randi was wrong.