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GURUving Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:08 PM
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Teach me something.....................
I have gone through an entire day without learning anything at all - yet.

What would you tell someone to brighten, enlighten or simply entertain?

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FreeperSlayer Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:11 PM
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1. Sure...
The first person to hit a pinch-hit home run in a World Series game was Yogi Berra.
Oh yeah, and the bottom three presidents are GW Bush, R Reagan, and F Pierce.
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GURUving Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:13 PM
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2. I just got through watching 61*
a movie about the home run race between Mantle and Maris. A damn good movie. An actor playing Yogi had a few good lines.

You left off Nixon?
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:15 PM
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3. Major Richard "Bing" Bong
Is America's highest scoring fighter ace, shooting down 40 Japanese planes during World War 2.

Major Bong died shortly before the war ended while flying a experimental aircraft over Riverside, California. His aircraft suffered an engine failure over a populated area, and rather than immediatly abandon it, he flew it in a 'safe' direction before bailing out. Alas, he waited to long and died because his parachute did not have time to open.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:15 PM
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4. If you rub a gator's belly, they will lay very still.
If you make a spiraling circle in front of a chicken,
then come to a very slow stop, you will hypnotize them.
If you make friends with a dog, you have earned high
praise. If you make friends with a cat, you have
achieved a rare thing. Cats never forget. Dogs never
fail to forgive.

If you mix all of this in a high speed blender, it makes
the most incredible sauce for chinese food and rice (dip
stuff)

9 eggs, whipped
2 cups oil
1 cup sugar
2 teaspoons dry mustard - chinese is good
1/2 teaspoon salt
3/4 cup ketchup
3/4 cup and 2 tablespoons of chines vinegar (apple can sub)

Whip the tar out of it and put into bottle. It will be
awesome on the second day. Its terrific on the first.

RV, trying to be helpful
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:15 PM
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5. Warren Harding made Clinton's
womanizing seem like Mickey Mouse doing a dance at Disneyland. One of his favorite places for his "dalliances" was a closet near the Oval Office. He would get it on with his secretary or any other willing female in that closet, and station a guard (Secret Service type) outside the door to keep his angry wife, who suspected what was going on, from barging in. Good thing for him there was no TV or mass media at that time, and that the republicans were different then!
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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:16 PM
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6. Here is my lecture about Historical Critical
My lecture along with my socialist translation of Genesis 1-2'

The First creation in Genesis

At the start, when God was creating the skys and the land the land was a primeval emptiness, while darkness veiled the face of the deep. God’s breath skirted the surface of the waters.
God said, “There shall be light,” and there was light. God saw that the light was good.
Then, God made a rift between the light and the darkness. He gave the name day to the light and to darkness the name night. That was the evening and the morning of the first day.
God said, “There shall be firmament in the midst of the waters. There shall be a split between waters to waters.” Therefore God made the firmament and there was a split between the waters above the firmament and below the firmament. So it was. God gave to the expanse the name sky. That was the evening and the morning of the second day.
God said, “The waters shall gather from beneath the sky into one place, and the dry ground shall appear.” So it was. God gave dry land the name Earth, and gathered waters he called sea. God saw it was good.
Then God said, “The earth shall produce greenery; seed filled plants, fruit trees in labor with fruit of all the kinds of seeded fruits of the earth. So it was. The earth produced greenery; seed filled plants, fruit trees in labor with fruit of all the kinds of seeded fruits of the earth. God saw it was good. It was the morning and the evening of the third day.
God said, “There shall be lights in the atmosphere of the heavens to separate day and night. They will be signals for seasons, days, and years. There shall be lights in the atmosphere of the heavens, to shine on the earth. So it was.
God made two great lights, the greater light to influence the day, and the lesser light to influence the night, there were also stars. God put them into the heaven’s atmosphere, to shine upon the earth, governing in the day and in the night, to separate light from darkness. God saw it was good. It was the evening and the morning of the fourth day.
God said, “The water shall swarm with the souls of living creatures. Birds shall fly above the earth, caressing the face of the sky.”
God created vast sea creatures and the soul of every moving thing thriving in the water, and all the kinds of winged birds. God saw it was good, so God blessed them, “Be fruitful, become numerous, fill the waters in the sea, and birds, increase upon the earth.” It was the evening and the morning of the fifth day.
God said, “The land shall produce living things of all kinds, cattle, crawling things, and wild animals of every kind.” So it was.
So God made wild animals of every kind, cattle of every kind, and dirt crawlers of every kind. God saw it was good.
God said, “We shall make man in our image, our likeness. They shall rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the air, over the cattle, the wild animals of all the earth, and above all the crawlers, the ones crawling about.
God created man in his image. In the image of God he created him, both man and woman.
God blessed them, and said to them, “Be fruitful, increase, be numerous, fill the earth, and dominate it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the sky and every living thing of the land.
God said, “At this very moment I am giving you every seed bearing plant on the face of the earth, every tree bearing fruit with seeds. For you this shall be food. To every creature upon the earth, to the bird of the air, every crawling thing upon the ground that has life. Every green plant is to be their food.” So it was.
God observed all of his creation, all this was in front of him was very good. It was the evening and the morning of the sixth day.
The heavens and the earth were done in their completeness, so on the seventh day God was finished with his work, which he had done. So he rested on the seventh day from all the work which he had done. God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it, because he rested from all his work of creation, which he had done.

The Second Creation in Genesis

These are the histories of the heavens and earth, when they were created. On the day the LORD God made the earth and heavens none of the field shrubbery existed on the earth; none of the plants of the field had sprung up, because the LORD God had not sent rain upon the earth. Man was not there to work the ground. Then streams rose from the ground and watered the whole surface of the soil.
The LORD God fashioned the man from the dust of the ground, then he breathed the breath of life into his nostrils. Therefore, the man became soulful, having life.
Now, the LORD God planted a garden in the east, in Eden, and there he put the man who he had formed. The LORD God made every tree pleasing to the sight and good for food to grow from out of the ground. The Tree of Life was in the middle of the garden, as was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
When the river flowing through Eden to water the garden flowed from that place it divided and became the mouth for four rivers. The name of the first river was Pyshon, the one winding through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold, God and good Bdolach and Onix stones. The name of the second river was Gychon, the one winding through all of the land of Cush. The name of the third river was Tideqel (Tigris) the one running east of Ashur. The name of the fourth river was Prat (Euphrates).
The LORD God took the man and he put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. The LORD God commanded to the man, saying, “From any tree of the garden you are to eat, but from the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil you will not eat, because on the day that you eat from it you will die a death.
The LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to exist alone. I will make a comrade that will suit him.”
So the LORD God formed from the ground all of the beasts of the field and every bird of the sky. He brought them to the man, to see what he would name them. Whatever the man named the living creature that was its name. The man gave names to all cattle, and to the birds of the air, and to every animal of the field; but there was no comrade for Adam.
So the LORD God made a deep sleep fall upon the man. He took a rib from him, and closed up its place with flesh.
Then the LORD God made the rib, which he had taken from the man, into a woman.
He brought her to the man, and the man said, “This, this is bone from my bone, flesh, from my flesh. She shall be called (wo)man, because she was taken out of man.”
Because of her company a man will leave his mother and father and will be united with his wife as one flesh. The man and his wife were both naked, but without same.


1. Historical Critical
2. Hebrew
3. Translation

1. Read my translation of 2 Creation Stories (2 students)
2. What have you heard for reasons of having 2 Creation Stories?
3. The Rabbinic tradition 2 explanations I know of 1. The Idea vs. the Deed. The first CS is the ideal how God wants humanity to interact the second is what humanity does. 2. Lilith Submissive sexual position? No. Harpy, Jewish Boys. Feminism
4. Another way to explain this is in a secular scholarly manner. Historical Critical. HC means, as DF put it Bible “Text context” (FalknerSouth “Past is not dead, it isn’t even past” Toni Morrison, Black women, black women’s issues)
5. An example of this scholarly study would be to look at previous myths of the time-period in the Middle East. Look at the context in which the author was writing in.
6. First lets look at the Epic of Gligamesh, an Assyrian story written in 2000 BCE about 1000 years before earliest pieces of the Bible were written. The story goes thus. Gilgamesh, legendary ruler of Uruk (a name remarkably similar to Ur of Abraham’s birth I might add) is hanging out with Enkidu, his companion, a furry wildman. A goddess tries to seduce Gilgamesh, he’d rather be frolicking with Enkidu, so she kills Enkidu. Gilgamesh realizes death is real, so he goes out looking for eternal life. He finds the only immortal man, Utnapishtim, who has effectively the same story as Noah. He tells Gilgamesh the story of how the gods flooded the whole earth. A god known as Ea tells him to build an ark, take his family and 2 of every animal with him and float around for a while. After a few 7 day periods he lets loose a dove, who comes back, then a swallow, who also comes back to the boat, then he lets out a Raven, which flies away. Then the gods give Utnapishtim a rainbow necklace to promise never to flood the earth again. After telling this story Utnapishtim points Gilgamesh towards the tree of life. He is about to eat the tree’s fruit when a snake comes along and gobbles up the food. Gilgamesh is consoled by the Gods, being told. “As for you, Gilgamesh, fill your belly with good things; day and night, night and day, dance and be merry, feast and rejoice. Let your clothes be fresh, bathe yourselves in water, cherish the little child that holds your hand, and make your wife happy in your embrace; for this too is the lot of man. Similarly Ecclesiasties 9:7-9 echoes these thoughts saying; “Go, eat your bread with joy and drink your wine with a glad heart; for what you do God has approved beforehand. Wear white (GOFestivity) all the time, do not stint your head of oil. Spend your life with the woman you love, through all the fleeting days of the life God has given you under the sun”
7. Looking at another myth of the time, specifically a creation myth of the time we see the first creation story of Genesis loud and clear. In the Enuma Elish Marduk, a Babylonian god, beats up Tiamat, the watery chaos. He kills Tiamat and divides her corpse into two, forming the dome of heaven and the dry land. Marduk creates 1. Light which emanates from the gods, 2. The sky as a dome, 3. Dry land 4. Hevenly lights 5. Humanity as a slave for the gods, basically they take over controlling the world, the God’s need their sacrifices or they get hungry + the world becomes imbalanced. With the humans taking over the gods rest and feast.
8. Things that Gen. 1 obviously borrowed (1)Tachom “the Deep” Tiamat. (2) 6 stages of creation 1. Light 2. Sky dome 3. Dry land 4. Heavenly lights 5. Man 6. Rest (3) heaven and earth result from the action of dividing.
9. Differences: 1. Humans pinacle of creation 2. Humans slaves 3. God doesn’t battle 4. God is one, not part of a pantheon 5. God maintains a stable universe w/out support from human ritual acts.
10. Now that I’ve explained the basic idea of historical critical let’s get back to Genesis. Why do Biblical scholars think there are 2 creation stories? They have analyzed the word use and style of the Hebrew Bible authors and have figured out that there are at least 4 traditions represented within the Bible, basicly 4 separate texts that were redacted, stuck together to form the Hebrew Bible sometime after the 5th century BCE. These traditions are called J,E,D, and P and come from around 1000 BCE until about 500 BCE. For the purposes of Genesis we’ll stick with E, from 900 BCE in northern Israel (Genesis 1) and J (some think P) (Gen 2) from 10th century BCE Judah (that is the south). So, the reason neither creation story was thrown out is because both sources were valid and had traditions going back many centuries. In fact this process of squishing together divergent texts is quite common. So common it has a name, Doubling. The most obvious example of doubling, outside of the 2 stories of creation, is found in the story of Noah. Two different flood stories are within the one account, one from the P source and one from the J source.
11. Example Genesis 7:1-5 “Then Yahweh said to Noah….Take with you SEVEN pains of all clean amimals,… a pair of the animals that are not clean… seven pairs of birds…” Gen. 6:13-22 “And Elohim said to Noah…. “And of every living thing, of all flesh, you shall bring two of every kind into the ark.”
12. Example again Genesis 7:16b-20, “Yahweh shut him in. The flood continued FOURTY DAYS on the earth…” Genesis 7:24-8:2a, “And the waters swelled on the earth for one hundred fifty days. But Elohim…”
13. As you might have guessed the name of God is one of the indicators for scholars to tell which source wrote which thing. That in a nut shell is Historical Critical.
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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:17 PM
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7. How the hell did that smile get in there? (nt)
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GURUving Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:25 PM
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9. Thanks. That was certainly potentially enlightening!
I never understood why man was not to learn good and evil. Supposedly somehow above it all before eating of the tree of knowledge? Didn't good and evil exist already? How could being blissfully ignorant of the difference be a benefit to any creature other than a pet?
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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:35 PM
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12. A pet
Well, if you read some feminist theologians Eve's actions not only created evil but also good. Basicly without the eating of the apple people would never have yearned for God/eachother. Mary didn't really do all that much in terms of Jesus, but EVE did, without Eve the Messiah wouldn't not have come.
At least that is what some people say.
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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:37 PM
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15. Note my use of the word Comrade in my translation
The Hebrew word Azer (in reference to Eve) is usually translated "Help-mate" but I think that misses the whole point, it sounds too much like "Merry-maid." The only other "person" refered to as Azer is God, and I don't know about most people's God, but mine ain't no Merry-maid, God be my Comrade!
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ott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:20 PM
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8. Birds don't urinate.
Scorpions are arachnids.

Mars has two moons.

There are no snakes in Hawaii.

Mosquitos will suck tree sap if they can't find blood but will only be able to produce a fraction of the eggs with it.
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GURUving Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:26 PM
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10. Birds don't urinate?
Now that's news to me. I wonder why?
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ott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:31 PM
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11. all comes out together
That's why it splats so well. That's evolution baby!
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ronzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 04:39 AM
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31. I can straighten this out....
That bird mess on your car is a combo of bird mess. Urine and feces.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:35 PM
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14. Snakes in the grass on Maui?
The Maui News - 23 November 1997
State inspectors captured 32 snakes and nearly 100 other illegal reptiles and amphibians in Hawaii in 1994 alone.

http://www.hear.org/AlienSpeciesInHawaii/articles/snakesinthegrassonmaui.htm


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ott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:38 PM
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16. I'll be damned
All illegally brought in I'm guessing. I wonder if they have a foothold.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 09:04 PM
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21. Yep, all illegally brought in
some of them were wiping out a lot of the ecosystem when I left there.

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scarlet_owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:35 PM
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13. scarlet_owl's owl facts!
Owls' eyes are fixed in their heads and are bell-shaped. Their necks have more vertebrae than most birds, and these allow owls to turn their heads almost all the way around.

Owls can hear a mouse running under two feet of snow. If you get close to a captive one (like ours at the nature center-Scarlet and Owly), they can hear your heart beating in your chest or your toes wiggling in your shoes.

Owls fly silently. They have very soft feathers that allow for this.

Burrowing owls can imitate rattlesnake sounds to ward off predators.

Owls lack crops to grind their food and they eat their food whole. They cast a pellet that contains bones, fur, and other undigestible materials.
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GURUving Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 09:04 PM
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22. Interesting
I can see you genuinely care about them. They can tell when you wiggle your toes? I'll never look at owls the same!

:)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:43 PM
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17. A smaller aperture and slower shutter speed will generate more
depth of field. Depth of field is how much of the photo is in focus. besides what you are focusing on, both in front of what you are focusing on, and behind.
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WWW Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:54 PM
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18. If hornets build
their nests low to the ground, it will be a mild winter. This is the only theory of winter snowfall that I have ever heard that really bodes true.
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GURUving Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 09:02 PM
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19. The older I get, the younger I want to be
is that a typical reaction?
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 09:02 PM
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20. You can milk camels
Many middle eastern cultures keep camels and milk them. For the milk to fill the udders, the mama's own baby must nuzzle the udder so camel herders keep the udders in a cloth contraption. Then when they are ready to milk they remove it. The udder fills and they have something like 60 seconds to milk the camel.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 09:21 PM
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23. Charles Guiteau
Guiteau who assasinated James Garfield was a republican, an failed intinerate preacher, a failed journalist, a failed husband, a failed politician and a nutcase.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 09:24 PM
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24. wanna know a little something about telecom/data networking?
pick from any of these topics...

basic telephony
switching
routing
Signaling System Seven
Cellular wireless communication
Digital wireless communication

Data Networking
Basic packet switching
Asynchronous Tranfer Mode
Frame Relay
TCP
IP
TCP/IP
802.11 B/G

and I'll teach you everything I know
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GURUving Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 09:26 PM
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25. What the heck it 802.11 B/G?
I need to know!
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 10:27 PM
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27. 802.11B and G
are two standards for wireless data networking in a Local Area Network environment.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 10:24 PM
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26. If your turds float, you have too much fat in your diet.
(Work that into a conversation at your next dinner party! Much hilarity will ensue. :-) )
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 03:26 AM
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28. Learn Esperanto before dawn
http://www.webcom.com/~donh/Esperanto/rules.html

There's only 17 codified rules of grammar in Esperanto. If you surf to the above page and give it about two hours, you will be able to say that you know Esperanto. And if you get a wordlist or a dictionary, you will actually be able to translate written Esperanto.

Everything you need is on the internet; Esperanto is making a comeback because it's easy to learn and to use, and the internet accelerated that return.

Don't laugh -- Esperanto is actually one of the major literary languages, and although most Americans don't think anyone uses it, five million people isn't exactly nobody.

--bkl
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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 03:35 AM
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29. That's awesome
This is a stupid question, but how is it related to Spanish? I know a fair amount of Spanish, and how does Esperanto relate? Is it the same relation as Mandarin is to Chinese, for example? A sect?
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 03:54 AM
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30. meade is the oldest distilled liquor
so cromagnons sat around the fire getting drunk and arguing about tommorows fire.
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ronzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 04:52 AM
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32. Learn this one first.. D major...
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