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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:13 PM
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Poll question: Best Michael Moore Film?
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:27 PM
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1. Roger & Me is the only one I really like.
Bowling for Columbine seemed incoherent and pointless. F9/11 was a campaign commercial.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:42 PM
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9. Roger and Me
Fahrenheit 9/11 is perhaps the most moving, but I think Roger and Me most effectively makes the points Moore is trying to make. It's consistently interesting, hard-hitting, and smart throughout. It's a really strong movie that I think would even have an effect on a sizeable number of Repugs if they'd approach it with an open mind.

I do think Canadian Bacon is really funny, though, even if it's a different sort of film than his others.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:36 PM
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2. Farenheit, easily. Worst: Columbine, mainly 'cause he missed the...
whole friggin' point. The demented duo didn't kill all those people 'cause it was easy to buy the guns and ammo. They killed them cause they were mercilessly ostracized, physically harrassed and tormented and ruthlessy gay-baited. Ok, they weren't wrapped too tight to start with but the torture chamber that IS the typical American high school drove them from the edge into the abyss.

I like Moore, but only a myopic, middle-aged male hetero could so completely fail to see the real significance Columbine and fixate exclusively on the trivial. There was a much more profound film to be made there but Moore couldn't get past KMART and tired liberal cliches about gun control.

OTOH, Farenheit was the best film of 2004... I don't care what Hollywood says.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:39 PM
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3. Your point about why Columbine happened is right on target.
And I do feel that Moore missed the boat there. However, the fact that it was easy for those kids to get the guns and act out on their rage IS a point, also. It isn't just tired liberal rhetoric. Guns and ammo are way too easy to obtain for people who have no business obtaining them. Nothing tired or cliched about that.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:05 PM
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6. actually
he talks about that. he states all those facts about canada having a lot of guns too, and yet a low crime rate. that's what he talks about with heston

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:41 PM
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4. Roger and Me, The Big One
Canadian Bacon was pretty damn funny.

Bowling for Columbine was a very good, if incomplete, film. Farenheit 9/11 wasn't very good at all. Don't get me wrong, it had its moments. As a preaching-to-the-choir thing, it succeeded -- hell, I laughed, I cried. As propaganda, it failed. As a film? It was disjointed and uneven. It jerked around and was at times incoherent. It was 30 minutes too long. Many vignettes were tacked-on and artificial (I don't mean they were fabricated, I mean they did not flow naturally within the story). His worst film.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:47 PM
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5. Actually, The Big One
made some points a decade ago about our current national economic hardships. And Roger and Me really caught the despair of the unemployed. I think these movies really spoke about our American condition. Canadian Bacon was so on the mark about the neo-cons and the Iraq invasion...years before it happened, that it's positively eerie.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:06 PM
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7. None of them.
n/t
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intrepid_wanderer Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:11 PM
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8. THAT'S exactly why
I voted 'Other'

none of them were really worth their time or budget... other than stirring the pot.

If they had any other worth, it'd have been something. MTB

:eyes:
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:44 PM
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10. gee, i'll bet nobody saw that coming!
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