A funny Hummer defacing story-

[LiberallyInclined]

a budy of mine drove his Hummer into Chicago yesterday, to do some business at Northwestern Medical Center on the north side...
He's a great guy, has his own business, can afford the Hummer, and it's a good car that makes sense for him because he has a large trailer he has to tow often...I don't begrudge anyone having whatever car they choose- it's their money.

So- my buddy finishes up, and when he comes out to the street where his car is parked, and some college-aged kid is spray painting the Hummer- so he goes up to the idiot, and calmly asks him what he's doing...the moran starts going off on how awful Hummers are, and that people who drive them are asholes, and they deserve to be destroyed, yadda, yadda, yadda....
so my bud says "well this is your un-lucky day, because this is My car..."
punk tries to get tough & defensive- "oh yeah, well what are you gonna do about it...?"
so my bud says "well this is your REALLY un-lucky day, because I'm a cop" (did i mention that he's also a police officer in the south suburbs?)

Long story a little shorter- some total moran's father probably got a call sometime yesterday asking for bail money, and to borrow some money to get a car detailed and possibly re-painted.

sometimes there IS justice in the world!

[bobbobbins]

1. its their money...its our environment

[tk2kewl]

2. Vandalism is wrong

Owning a Hummer is immoral.

If your friend needs a truck to tow a trailer then he should use it for that and drive something sensible or use mass transit when not towing a trailer.

[Squatch]

4. Not it's not.

Not everybody ascribes to your moral code.

[tk2kewl]

20. whatever . . .

It is gluttony. It is a sin according to most every moral code. If you don't ascribe to ANY moral code then I guess it is OK to be a glutton.

[Squatch]

21. I do not ascribe to yours, that's for sure.

[tk2kewl]

25. Why not describe your moral code then.

I would love to hear it.

I suppose things like converting farms and forests to luxury golf communities is a moral imperative in your world.
:eyes:

[LiberallyInclined]

26. WOW- I've never met a perfect person before-

your mother must be SO proud...

[tk2kewl]

29. You don't need to be PERFECT to know that a Hummer is gluttony

I have a truck too. Mine gets 30 MPG. I am far from perfect though I think you will find yourself in a very small minority around here if you think Hummers are just honky dory.

[Squatch]

30. We can't have anybody representing the minority around here...

can we?

[tk2kewl]

32. Sure we can

I would just like to hear a defense of why its is not immoral to drive a Hummer. I STILL haven't heard one in this thread.

[Squatch]

36. I gave you a defense.

You prima facie assertion that it is immoral does not constitute argument.

[LiberallyInclined]

40. if i defend it, you're NOT going to like it...

he basically got the hummer for FREE, because of the way the puke-controlled congress wrote the tax code regarding the depreciation of heavy trucks purchased by the self-employed.

stew in it.

[bobbobbins]

47. he should have got an escalade instead

they fall under that tax code dilly, and they're far more pimp than a hummer

[LiberallyInclined]

51. and they get a full 1 MPG more...

i guess that's why you never hear anyone complaining about those gas-guzzling escalades.

besides- he's not intersted in how pimp his ride is.

[bobbobbins]

53. well thats his first mistake...a pimp ride is what its all about

I'm willing to forgive the miles per gallon if the ride shows demonstratable pimpness...Unfortunately, the hummer is severly lacking in the pimp department. Poor soul, spending all that money on gas and not reaping the rewards of a tricked out ride.

[tk2kewl]

55. How does that make it moral?

Zero logic

[LiberallyInclined]

33. you know- there ARE trucks available that get better mileage than 30MPG...

who's the immoral one now???

:eyes:

[tk2kewl]

42. Mine is 10 years old.

And was rebuilt (recycled) from a vehicle that was totaled.

Your logic is pretty poor there my friend. Its like saying your not a glutton for food if you aren't a vegan.

I am STILL waiting to hear a defense of why owning a Hummer is NOT immoral.

[Squatch]

43. See response #36

[LiberallyInclined]

45. NEW trucks spew less pollution into the air...

why do you feel that it's ok and moral for you to be polluting the air more than other people do?

[tk2kewl]

54. 90% of my travel is done on public transportation

How 'bout you?

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[TXlib]

12. I don't think he's that flexible

nor is his horse...

[Dufaeth]

10. Having a truck for business is not wrong.

A Hummer is glutonous egotism plain and simple.

[Squatch]

11. To which each person in this country is entitled.

[bobbobbins]

13. Just because someone can do something, doesn't mean they should do it

[Squatch]

14. Erm...

so what? Got a point?

[bobbobbins]

16. That is my point...entitlement isn't a justification

its an excuse

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[Squatch]

18. You leave my gold commode out of this

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[Squatch]

3. That's some funny shit.

I don't think I would have nearly 1/2 the restraint your cop friend showed.

[redqueen]

6. He should have kept his message short and sweet.

"I HAVE A PENCIL DICK" or something.

[Dufaeth]

7. He should make a stencil

so he can spray in one or two sprays and then run. Sheesh.

[Squatch]

9. Well, looky here. That tired old

non sequitur makes its appearance.

[redqueen]

37. JOKE!

Vandalism is wrong, of course.

However, I still believe that guys that drive these ghastly ugly monstrosities unnecessarily (such as in the city) do indeed have eeeeety beeeeety teeeeeny weeeeeny pencil dicks, and will not believe otherwise without proof. :)

Driving them around a farm or something is obviously reasonable and sane. City, not so much.

[TXlib]

8. If you really want to make a statement

get business cards printed up with facts comparing Hummers to average cars; i.e.-- how much more gas they consume, how much higher insurance rates are, etc.

Then, if you see a hummer, just put a card under the windshield wiper. You get your point across without being a jerk.

[tsakshaug]

19. or use these

http://www.earthonempty.com/
or
http://www.moles.org/ProjectUnderground/campaigns/suv.shtml

[ThorsHammer]

38. Exactly

I hate Hummers (posermobiles, for at least 99% of their drivers), but still think it's wrong to physically harm them. Placing a flyer, card, sticker, etc gets the point across in a more constructive way.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

17. "...And therefore disliking Hummers is evil and childish. You should...

...only dislike French cars."

Sorry, got a little carried away.

[Lex]

23. Someone here at DU saw a Hummer with the following keyed into the door:

SUV = WWIII

[Rainbowreflect]

27. I'm curious what your friends "business" is.

Not too many honest cops can afford a Hummer.

[LiberallyInclined]

28. he sells medical supplies.

he's actually phasing out the police officer thing.

and he's VERY honest- I don't normally like cops, especially when they have attitude- but he's a genuinely nice guy.

[Squatch]

31. You shouldn't need to defend your associates here on DU.

And the fact that his/her honesty is being called into question is sickening.

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[Dufaeth]

41. Watch out!

Toilet talk is not allowed here.

[Dukkha]

46. oh there's an exuse

Hummers are SO needed to haul around medical suppplies :eyes:

There has never been an "Excuse" for owning these ecological disaters that can't be shot down in an instant. If you own one, you are the enemy. Deal with it.

[LiberallyInclined]

48. Read post #40.

besides, i didn't say whay kind of medical supplies did I?

(when you assume you make an ass out of u, (but not me)

[bobbobbins]

50. a van would seem like the more obvious choice to haul supplies

[LiberallyInclined]

56. ?????

why do you seem to think you know so much about what type of medical supplies he sells, and what vehicle would serve him best?

i'll tell you this much- you're wrong.

[shawcomm]

34. If the guy can afford a Hummer in the first place...

he's going to be able to afford to get it repainted (going on the idea that the young guy didn't realize he'd get caught). He would continue to drive it. Vandalizing it just means that extra pollution will be released in the form of having the SUV repainted.

Too, how much pollution is released in the manufacture and use of spray paint?

Vandalism is not the way to go.

[Dufaeth]

35. lol

:)

[bif]

44. Man, did I take a wrong turn and end up in GD?

This has degenerated into a GD type volly!

[grace0418]

49. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Defacing someone's property is wrong. No question about it.

However just because you can afford something doesn't mean you should buy it. There are plenty of vehicles that are good for towing, it doesn't have to be a Hummer. And, unless he actually was towing something at the time, why was he wasting the gas and causing a huge obnoxious (not to mention dangerous) obstruction for other drivers just to go into the city? If he's wealthy enough to afford a Hummer then he's wealthy enough to purchase an additional car that he can drive when he's not towing anything-- perhaps maybe a hybrid so he can begin to make up for the damage caused by his planet-sized environment-killing monster truck?

I live in Chicago, and I can tell you that the streets are not made for vehicles like this. It's impossible to see around them, get around them, and park around them. Nobody who lives in or has business in the city should be driving giant SUVs. There are plenty of AWD or 4WD cars and wagons that are safe, can get around in the snow, and can carry your groceries and kids. If you need to tow something, fine, use a truck for that. But unless you're towing something every day, there's no excuse for these vehicles as every-day cars, especially if can afford two cars.

So yes, I do begrudge people spending their money on Planet-Mobiles because it affects my environment, it affects my commute, and it affects my safety. But most importantly IMHO, America's ever-increasing need for oil caused in great part by Hummers and their gas-guzzling breathren is helping keep the BushCo evil empire in power. That is down-right unforgiveable as far as I'm concerned.

Sorry for the long rant. I just really hate these vehicles.

[LiberallyInclined]

52. one question-

what do you drive?

[BigMcLargehuge]

57. locked

Okay, I called AAA.