Cat lovers! Would you consider this abuse?

[devilgrrl]

Check this video: http://www.blennus.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=52&Itemid=

I think it's hilarious and I want to try it on my one cat. He'll hate but get over it once the tape is removed - he's an easy going cat - up for anything.

[Misunderestimator]

1. LOL... Well, it doesn't look like it hurts them....

and it is funny as hell..... damn, where'd I put my tape? j/k... my cat wouldn't put up with it.

[devilgrrl]

7. I forwarded this to family members...

they must have forwarded it to other people because I get this email complaining that's is cruel and it made her stomach turn.

I flamed her ass. Now, I going to write my family asking who it was and that if I ever meet her, I'm going to kick her in the teeth.

[Lorien]

58. You're planning to attack someone

because animal cruelty upsets them? Yeah, f*cking compassion, let's kill everyone who has it! THAT'LL make the world a better place! :crazy:

[loudestchick]

2. That is so twisted! n/t

[Wickerman]

3. looks pretty cruel to me

[flvegan]

4. I'd say it's pretty mean and causes stress to the cat, yeah.

Plus, removing that tape is gonna suck for him/her.

[mhr]

5. That Was Hilarious - Thanks - Seems No Long Term Harm Was Done

eom

[Cadence]

6. That was funny,

just make sure to use tape that comes off easily. Ouch!

[ET Awful]

8. Yes, it's abuse.

The reason the cat is walking screwy is because if the poor thing straightens up, it pulls his fur.

Try taping the ends of your hair to the small of your back and walking around, see if YOU walk funny :) :) :)

Yeah, it's comical, but it sure as hell isn't pleasant for the poor furball.

[Misunderestimator]

10. Oooh.... good point!

ouch

[devilgrrl]

12. No. It walks that way because cats don't like things on...

their backs.

They do the EXACT same thing when you place a hand towel on their backs. Is that pulling their hair?

[ET Awful]

14. Like I said, tape your hair to the small of your back and walk around

See if you walk funny and how pleasant it is for you.

All they have to do to get away from a hand towel is paw it off, and they do so quite easily. Not so with tape.

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[ET Awful]

23. So you're unwilling to subject yourself to the same treatment you want

to give your cat?

The mere fact that you're unwilling to do it to yourself should be proof enough that it's not something your cat would enjoy.

[uppityperson]

35. I wouldn't eat cat food and don't lick myself in public either.

I wouldn't want to sleep on top of the blankets on my bed and I like to wear clothes and take showers regularly. I do subject my animals to things I am unwilling to do.

Edited for spelling

[ET Awful]

62. Those things are things the cat CHOOSES to do that come naturally

fastening adhesives to its fur does not fall under that description.

[uppityperson]

67. Not quite. My cat can't open cat food cans, would rather eat birds.

Opening cans of cat food is not natural, but walking funny is a natural act. The cause may be unnatural, but not as bad as killing birdies and mices.

And the poses a cat gets into licking oneself in public are rather silly too. Should I not laugh at them to not injure their dignity then either?

[ET Awful]

68. Once again. . . tape your hair to the small of your back, try and walk

around, then come back and tell us how fun it was, okay?

Sorry, but the cat CHOOSES to eat the food and CHOOSES to lick themselves. They do NOT choose to have adhesives applied to their fur.

Then again, I guess as long as there's no organ failure or death, it's fine right?

[uppityperson]

70. Once again...natural does not=better and I don't do what my cats do.

Natural does not=better. I do not subject my cats to what I do, or me to what they do.

Cats choose to eat birds. I think this is wrong even though it is natural. Putting tape on a cat and laughing at it walking undignifiedis less natural and less problematic to me than killing birdies.

I have taped cats working at the vets office. They have a lot of very loose fur that comes off on the tape. This is not like putting tape on a human. Cats fur and human fur is different.

[ET Awful]

72. When you use tape for loose fur removal, you don't apply

firm pressure to make sure it sticks and stays. You use a roller or slightly adhesive tape.

Remind me never to take either of my cats to any vets office you're associated with. I prefer my animals un-tortured.

[uppityperson]

75. How are you going to keep a bandage in place if not with tape?

We don't use staples or sutures to apply bandages. They need to be help on with tape. When you remove the tape, lots of loose fur comes off. If you want to take your cat to another vet that uses staples, it's your choice but I'd prefer the tape myself.

[ET Awful]

76. I see, so you equate emergency treatment of injury

with harmless fun. You believe that something that is traumatic for a cat in one situation is fine to do as entertainment in another situation.

Makes complete sense to me.

[uppityperson]

80. Nope, you're saying we torture our cats 'cause we use tape.

I started by saying that I won't subject myself to the same treatment I give my cat. I won't eat catfood for instance. You say what is natural is ok. I say eating birdies isn't. You say you won't bring your cat the the vet I worked for 'cause you prefer your animals un-tortured. I explain why we use tape. You tell me I equate Emergency treatment with putting a cat in an undignified posture.


Well. Enough for me.

[livinginphotographs]

82. I'll take over from here...

There's a difference between using bandages on cats for a reason that is medically necessary, and using tape on a cat for your own sick amusement.

[ET Awful]

84. BINGO.

I don't say I wouldn't go to a vet where people like you work, not because they use adhesive bandages, but because you obviously view something that is distressful to an animal as harmless and condone doing it for amusement.

If you find something that hurts my pet in any way amusing, I sure don't want you treating it's illness or injury.

[NGU]

63. I second that.

How terrible and not the least bit funny. And yes, I do have a sense of humor.

[crispini]

9. My cat would claw the shit out of me.

I don't think I'll try it....

[ET Awful]

11. Quinn would claw my eyes out in my sleep.

Althea would curl up in a ball and cry :cry:

[Steve Nash is god 13]

13. thats mean!!!!!!

No one should do that! :mad: :mad:

[Misunderestimator]

16. Hello... Welcome to DU

:hi:

[MuseRider]

15. Anybody know what

kind of cat that is? I have one that looks just like that, the same markings and he has two brothers who are tabbys with tails like that too. They are not Manx. I have always wondered how I got 3 cats with very short tails. The vet thought they were Bobcat kittens but they never grew very big.

That doesn't look painful so I guess it would not be abuse. My question would be why?

[pnorman]

25. The titles are in Japanese.

I don't ever recall seeing a cat in Japan that didn't have a short tail. Also, the Japanese "culture" is quite different from ours as regards to pets such as dogs and cats. Very rarely do they get "sentimental" about them, and Cruelty To Animals doesn't have the emotional impact there that it does here.

pnorman

[UdoKier]

34. They asked "Is Gum Tape Heavy for a cat?

Apparently, it was.

Also, as a former longtime resident of Japan, married to a Japanese lady who is also a MAJOR dog lover, I would disagree with your characterization of the Japanese.

While they do tend to anthropomorphize their pets a bit more and like this sort of trick, I don't think they are as cruel as Americans who kill cats for fun (NEVER happens in Japan) and they are quite attached to their pets.

The stunt in the video would not be seen as "cruelty" there, and it seems most folks here aren't all that bugged by it either. (Also, tons of Americans declaw cats. I've never heard of a declawed cat in Japan.)

[pnorman]

83. I have about the same "qualifications" to speak

on that subject as you have. Much of my years in Japan were spent in rural areas. It was not unusual to see watch dogs, who have spent their ENTIRE adult existence tied to a very short chain. Their SOLE job in life was to bark when strangers are sighted/sensed. Obviously,they couldn't treat a cat in that manner. (Read the instructions on how to administer a pill to a cat).

This was NOT meant to be put-down on the Japanese by any means. Any "cruelty" to animals would be along the lines of childlike thoughtlessness, rather than wanton cruelty. Very rarely did I see a dog or cat INSIDE the house. I don't recall seeing anything that could be regarded as "anthropomorphization", and since "absence of a soul" isn't anything they would be likely to brood over, their attitude to "other species" was probably more unforced and natural than ours.

The general perception (misconception?) of the Japanese is that of "slavish followers of brutal despots". I'm not so sure of that. Close study of their political history reveals a very strong tilt towards anarchism, as opposed to the state socialist model. I LIKE that.

pnorman

[Rob H.]

43. Looks like it could be a Japanese Bobtail

[MuseRider]

55. Thanks

I did not know about them. That cat looks just like one of mine. I had 4 of them show up on my farm as tiny kittens. One is sadly gone but the other 3 are still there.

[tridim]

17. My cat would never stand for that

She would find a way to get it off very quickly.

[LibertyorDeath]

18. Would you want someone to do it to you? We can start with your

Head and work down to your pubes.

Just fucking hilarious.

[devilgrrl]

38. Pffffft!

:eyes:

[Willy Lee]

19. Abuse? no... but a tad cruel.

Only when you take the tape off, that is.

[miss_kitty]

20. if ya have ta ask...

and not even funny. JMHO, though.

Uh-ripping out fur with tape hurts.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

22. It's sadistic.

[jjmalonejr]

24. I don't like it.

[Love Bug]

26. One of my cats actually did that to herself!

I was painting one of my bedrooms and had taped off the molding. Well, I used wide masking tape and it stuck out from the wall just enough so when one of my cats got too close it stuck to her and she took off like her tail was on fire! She took with her about 6 feet of tape trailing behind and I finally found her hiding in the basement where she was so upset because of the evil tape that was chasing her! Plus she was probably upset at me because I was laughing so hard -- she sure didn't find it funny.

I would never do that to a cat on purpose -- that's gotta hurt when removed. It does look funny, tho. The cat in that video is either real tolerant or dumb.

BTW -- anyone else recognize that music from "Good Neighbor Totorro"?

[Zuni]

27. I find it cruel

Don't do it. Let your cat save some dignity

[gypsy11]

28. I wouldn't do it

to my cats.

[snooper2]

29. My cat did that when I put a kitty harness on him...

He looks identical to the cat in the picture :)

He acted like he was going to die with a harness on, that didn't last long. Walked around like that cat did when they put tape on his back.

Hard to walk a cat :(

[Misunderestimator]

30. Mine does the same thing with a harness....

funniest thing... they just can't stand to have anything unfamiliar on them.

[snooper2]

31. Ever get used to the harness?

It would be so cool if I could walk Sam at the park...He loves being outside (8 years in the country) but he is a Dallas Apt. kitty now...

[Misunderestimator]

33. After a few minutes, he's better, but I only take him out occassionally

to show him the outside world, since he wants sooooooo much to see it every time I open the door, or whenever the doorbell rings.

[uppityperson]

32. Funny video. Cats have lots of loose hair so tape comes off ok

The reason they walk funny is because they don't like things on them, not because it hurts. I worked for a vet and we had to put tape on cats for various reasons. It sticks ok for the short term, but also comes off easily since cats have a lot of loose fur. It's not like taping people's skin hair as ours is not as loose.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

36. The cat is bewildered, miserable and frightened.

It's ridiculous to compare getting pleasure and a laugh
out of a bewildered, frightened and miserable creature
to doing necessary medical procedures. Did you laugh at
the cats when they were frightened and bewildered in the
vet's office? To find humor in that video is to experience
a failure of empathy. I don't know why this thread is not
locked or deleted. I doubt it would survive even in Freeperland.

[uppityperson]

40. My reply was that this doesn't hurt the cat as cats have lots of loose fur

I am not comparing doing something stupid to a cat to doing a medical procedure. My response was in reply to those who compare putting tape on a cat's fur to taping the short hairs in the small of a human's back.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

44. It's not "doing something stupid" to a cat.

It's doing something cruel. Are there levels of cruelty?
Yes. Are there levels of torture? It's deliberately
causing suffering to a creature for a laugh. As I said,
it's a failure or a lack of empathy.

[uppityperson]

48. Suggestion-debate someone else as I'm just covering fur pulling

I am trying to say that this does does NOT pull out cats fur like it would people's body hair. If you want to debate empathy or lack thereof, I suggest you find someone else who is talking about this as I am not.

Edited to add "not" that I forgot.

[devilgrrl]

41. I like how everyone acts as if all tape is that super tacky...

that it would remove hair from the animal. :eyes:

Jesus! What a bunch over-sensitive whiners.

Yeah, I bet they ate the cat after they were done shooting the video!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

46. Why did you ask if "cat-lovers" considered it "abuse"

if you didn't want to hear the answers?

[smbolisnch]

47. You seem to have a lot of hostility

towards anyone with compassion for animals. :shrug:

Glad you asked before you did this, and if you have to ask whether or not it's abuse.....don't do it.

[devilgrrl]

51. Yeah....

because the comments are personal as if I shot the footage myself, that's why.

[smbolisnch]

52. Not that I've read. nt

[devilgrrl]

53. Oh, so you missed post #18 then?

How convenient....

[smbolisnch]

54. No, I didn't. I just don't see why you take it as a personal attack.

You asked if people thought it was abuse, and people answered. :shrug:

[TreasonousBastard]

37. Seems kinda silly, but not cruel...

and no worse than feeding a dog peanut butter. (always good for laughs)

[ContraBass Black]

39. What does peanut butter do to a dog?

[uppityperson]

42. They lick lick lick lick lick lick lick etc

It sticks to the roof of their mouth and takes a while to get off. Some dogs also licklicklick etc at a water hose or sprinkler, enjoying a fresh drink. I find that funny too. Guess I'm a evil sadist b*.

[Rob H.]

45. I would never do something like that

Whether it harms the cat or not, it just seems mean. None of the cats I've ever had have been declawed, either.

[devilgrrl]

49. OMG!!!!! THAT'S AWFUL!!! THE CAT LOOKS TERRIFIED!!!!

[Misunderestimator]

50. Oh dear... now THAT's cruel.

[6000eliot]

56. Looks like abuse to me.

[TrogL]

57. That's abusive

I refused to watch the entire thing.

What in the world would make you think that is funny?

You can see the cat cringing.

[Groggy]

59. It's not nice.

I don't know if its abuse, but the cat is clearly uncomfortable, so no I wouldn't do that to my cats.

[El Fuego]

60. It is mean. You are bad.

[Misunderestimator]

65. Now, isn't that nice?

Though I completely understand people's reaction that it was cruel to put tape on a cat, as I would never do a thing like that (and the OP wouldn't either, apparently)... I think people are being a bit too harsh here. To call her "bad" is just a wee bit over the top, no?

Reason goes a lot further than insult.

[El Fuego]

66. Hey, if you're publicly posting about taping up your little kitty cat....

Maybe you want people to tell you you're BAD!

:spank:

[ironflange]

61. I don't think it's cruel

At least until you have to rip the tape off.

For what it's worth, if I tried this on any of my cats, I know damn well they'd go totally apeshit and run and hide, so I wouldn't be able to get the tape off. No thanks.

[uppityperson]

64. Yup, depends on the cat's personality

Catching them is hard if they run. If they crawl it's easier.

[MissMillie]

69. Much more innocent fun

put a sock over your kitty's head and watch it try to back out of it.

(Make sure you put kitty in the middle of the room so it doesn't knock it's head into stuff.)

[uppityperson]

71. not to mention the clothespin to the tip of the tail trick.

Not that I'd ever do this, being humane and all, but a sister mentioned it.

[livinginphotographs]

77. I'm fucking speechless.

What the fuck is wrong with you people? A clothespin to the tail?

Maybe we should stick a clothespin on your dick (gender undeclared) and laugh while you run around. And a sock on the head is not funny either. Why the fuck would you find amusement in torturing a cat?

[livinginphotographs]

73. I really have to ask....

addressing this to the posters in the thread who condone this...

Why the hell would you want to do this to the animal who has been entrusted into your care? Why is it amusing to (even if it's not cruelty) fuck with your cat?

I mean, I could stand there with a human baby and taunt him with food, or set a pillow on his face and watch him struggle to get out from underneath it, but that doesn't make it amusing.

People that do shit like this to animals for their own amusement are pretty fucked up, IMO. It's totally a power thing, and is pretty weird.

[ET Awful]

74. Agreed.

To me this is no different than listening to someone trying to explain torture away as a fraternity prank.

[cags]

79. Agree also, I've put a tiny piece of scotch tape on my cat and dogs

head before, but that was a huge piece of what looked like duct tape. That was horrible and I didn't find it funny at all.

Screwing with your pet is one thing, but that was full on mean.

[uppityperson]

81. So tiny is ok but 5 inches isn't?

[ET Awful]

85. Only in the same way that a light swat on the fanny is acceptable

but beating your child with a belt is not.

[cags]

86. Yes, Bandaid or a foot of duct tape?

Which would you like to pull off your arm.

And even a bandaid is too sticky for a cat. Scotch tape is not sticky enough to rip the cats hair out.

[livinginphotographs]

78. I feel sorry for your cat.

n/t