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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:47 PM
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OK, were you in a fraternity/sorority?
You knew this was coming, right?
It seemed like such a big deal back then.
And now it all seems kinda silly.
But I will say the parties were KILLER!
Delta Kappa Epsilon
Psi Chapter
University of Alabama
Class of '63.

And now some of you will never think of me the same way again.
Have to say I'm not the same guy I was then.
;-)
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:49 PM
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1. Theta Chi 'til I Die!
And, no, it was nothing like 'Animal House.'
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:52 PM
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4. Mine was damn close.
My daughter and I went to see Animal House when she was around 16 or 17.
I said "Shug, that's about the way it was."
I think at that moment I gained great stature in her eyes.
;-)
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:50 PM
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2. Beta Theta Pi, University of Minnesota '99 (Beta Pi chapter)
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 06:58 PM by Worst Username Ever
And yes, it kicked ass.

On edit, my fiance was a Pi Beta Phi at the same school. Love them sororoity girls. :P
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loudestchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:09 PM
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14. What's your favorite kinda pi? Beta Theta Pi!
I'm ashamed.:shrug:
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:16 PM
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21. You should be.
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 07:17 PM by Worst Username Ever
OK, maybe I secretly liked that.

:7

The a-phis on our campus were great, btw.
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loudestchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:25 PM
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30. Glad to hear it---I believe our Beta's burned down their house playing
pledge invaders the year after I left. They may have even roasted mallows on the smouldering ruins. Ah, college life!
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:28 PM
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33. HA!
THAT IS AWESOME. Stupid, but awesome. Hope no one got hurt.
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loudestchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:30 PM
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35. Not that I recall... n/t
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:52 PM
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3. Zeta Tau Alpha, University of Washington, initiated 1987
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 06:57 PM by flamingyouth
:hi:

I really enjoyed the experience, on the whole. We had a nice group of women in our house.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:31 PM
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36. that's funny, FY, you and I would be the last people I would
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 07:31 PM by tigereye
expect to have been in a sorority. I always stump people with that one when someone asks me to tell them something about myself they would never believe.

I was a Delta Phi Epsilon, for a time. Wasn't really my scene.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:33 AM
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70. ZTA here, too!
University of Evansville, 1990.

Very small college, so if you wanted to do anything, you pledged. I only stayed in E-ville for a year and a half, though. No ZTA at the college I transferred to.

:hi:
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:52 PM
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5. I'm a guy, and was in a co-ed sorority
We only went co-ed a year before I joined. It was also the year after our president came out as a lesbian at my small, conservative, mid-west church-affiliated liberal arts college.

Most of the people in my sorority were a bit eccentric, to say the least. Many were art or philosophy majors, musicians and most of us had been arrested for protesting against Reagan/Bush at least once.

Consequently, most of us went on to interesting careers. We had a glassblower, a woodworker, a bluegrass musician, and a brew pub owner.

It was a great sorority!
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:56 PM
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7. I like your Twain quote. What's it from?
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:55 PM
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6. Alpha Phi
but only because my father would not let me go to college unless I was pledged to a sorority.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:56 PM
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9. Strange request by your father, but I loved the a-phis
Personally, I will be doing everything in my power to keep my daughter (if I have one) OUT of sororities. I know what goes on there!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:39 PM
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52. Exactly!
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:57 PM
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10. No kidding?
I can think of some dads who wouldn't let you go if you DID.
What was his reasoning.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:43 PM
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53. This was 1971
I was a little hippie chick with a long haired boyfriend who he hated and I was going to be a music major and that meant to him that I was never going to learn to be a "lady". He was very archaic, very. Remember, this was a time when pledging was not a terribly popular thing, we still had to wear dresses to classes, gloves on Mondays etc. The funny thing was that we also had the biggest stash on campus hidden away in that house and although we were "little ladies" on the outside, we were not that way at all. We only looked like Stepfords, my fathers ideal type of woman.
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loudestchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:11 PM
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18. Me too. Alpha Phi in '86.
:hi:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:44 PM
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54. Sistah!
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 09:45 PM by MuseRider
You didn't go to school around KC did you? I see you are there now, I am in Topeka.
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loudestchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:13 PM
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71. Mizzou. Where were you?
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:43 PM
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72. In Topeka
Washburn U.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:56 PM
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8. No, cuz the Greeks didn't want no freaks
But I did get down and do the 'gator.

Sorry. I just had to do it.



:7
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:05 PM
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11. Sure am
Phi Kappa Psi (2000) at the University of Iowa and my wife is a Chi Omega. Nothing like Animal House, but a lot of fun and I made some great friends.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:07 PM
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12. No, but I've made out with a ton of frat boys.
And it was fun. I even cooked for them a lot. I was 19. Ahhh...memories!
Duckie
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:08 PM
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13. I was but i drank 5 Gallons of water
now i'm not anymore x(
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:09 PM
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They teach you in frat school to stop at 4 gallons.
You shoulda listened better while I was whipping you with the wet towel.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:09 PM
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15. Kappa Kappa Gamma
That suprised most of the people who knew me in high school, including my family. It also suprises some people who know me now.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:10 PM
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16. Ooh, kappas.
They were the "hot" ones.

:7
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loudestchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:13 PM
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20. Kappas at my university were "old money", as were the Thetas
they had a class where every new initiate was a legacy! Wacked!
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:19 PM
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23. Did you go to a Southern college?
I hear that they are a lot more hardcore down there. I will suspend further comment as to not incriminate.
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loudestchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:22 PM
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Mizzou--it's a weird mix of Kansas City/St Louis and a lot of mid-staters.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:20 PM
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41. Kappa Alpha Theta--Beta Omega chapter
Colorado College. Seemed like belonging to a sorority was the most important thing in the world at the time. By the end of senior year, I wanted to deactivate, but never got around to doing it.

I'm definitely NOT old money :) Not new money either.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:19 PM
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24. "I yam a Kye-yappa Kye-appa Gye-yamma
That the way the suthun belles sang it at the U. of Alabama back in the day.
;-)
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:11 PM
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17. Kappa Kappa Psi, Iota Epsilon chapter - founding member.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:12 PM
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19. I was invited but declined. Too bourgeois for my taste.
Nothing against those that enjoy that sort of thing. Smacks of elitism, though.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:16 PM
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22. Well OF COURSE it was elitist.
Jeez, that was the whole point.
My bunch is better than your bunch.
Also works for political parties, religions, sports teams, you name it.
;-)
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:20 PM
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25. LOL! I used to be even more of a socialist than I am now.
Today, being somewhat more moderate (but not much), I might have joined just to see what it was all about. The networking would have been a bonus later on.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:26 PM
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31. Gotta say the networking never did me a bit of good.
I am not now in contact with a single one of the guys.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:22 PM
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27. hey, trof, is that a truck-broke dog in your sig?
:)
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:26 PM
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32. Nope. No dogs allowed in back.
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Tafiti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:21 PM
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26. Sigma Chi, Xi chapter, DePauw University, Class of '03.
It was a small, private school (around 2400 students) in a shithole Indiana town, so basically, the Greek life was pretty much the only viable social outlet. Something like 75% of the campus is Greek. If I would've gone to a larger school, I'm fairly positive I wouldn't have pledged a fraternity.

But, I made great friends through the Greek system (many of whom would probably agree with my assessment above), and had a lot of fun doing it.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:23 PM
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28. Machis
Were our next door neighber/rival. Hey, you had to be mad at someone, might as well be another member of the miami triad.
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Tafiti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:28 PM
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34. That's hilarious.
Betas were kind of our neighbors - we shared back parking lots, and were diagonal (make sense?). Beta was probably our "rival" as well, but I think all the frats came together in a shared contempt for the Phi Psis. Everyone called them the Phi Khaki Psis. They were the rich, pretty boys who thought they were the shit. Of course, every house has their share of those, but theirs was rife with it.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:31 PM
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37. Phi Khaki Psis. I love it. We had those,
but they weren't as much of a presence. SAE was the big preps on campus ("Sigma Alpha Hairsalon"). FIJI was the sweater-vest crowd. The machis actually had TWO houses, because Phi Delta Theta got kicked off and they took over the other house.
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Tafiti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:41 PM
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39. Hairsalon! That's fucking classic.
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 07:42 PM by Tafiti
However, SAE's were the exact opposite at our campus. They were known as the "crazy motherfuckers." During Rush, they'd put on a skit called "Crazy Shit", where members would do all kinds of fucked up things like set themselves on fire and throw themselves onto tables and break them, and jump out windows and shit.

Their frat house also featured a room dedicated to breaking shit. People would bring all kinds of shit that weren't useful anymore, like TVs, chairs, and of course bottles, and throw 'em against the wall and smash 'em up. I was slightly intimidated during Rush, thinking, shit I'll never survive if I pledge here. I couldn't even imagine what their hell week was like.

On edit: I used the word "shit" way too many times in this post.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:14 PM
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48. Phi Delts were the Animal House on our campus too, and they got
kicked out too. They finally got a house, and within 3 years had totally trashed it, lost their national charter and were expelled from campus as an organization.

The Sigma Nus were the "Gentlemens club fraternity", the Sigma Alph Mu chapter was the new house who bid everybody to build their chapter, and the Sigma Phi Epsilons were the more trustworthy hard partiers. They had a cougar in the basement of their house and were famous for passion punch: washtub full of ice into which you dumped whatever bottle you brought for the evening. Sometimes Welches grape juice was the base.

These three are still alive, well and on campus. All houses were disbanded, frats moved back into dorms, and the two remaining sororities and three remaining frats are all in a co ed dorm, which knowing the dorm as I do probably has the women on one floor and the men on the other two floors.

the two sororities left are Kappa Delta (also known as Krappa Deltas or the Green Meanies) and Sigma Kappa, (also known as Shitma Krappas)

KD was the prissy preppy girl group, Sigma K was mostly PE majors and when we were there, AOPI was the most fun. Definitely the friendliest, least "elitist" acting and not stuck up at all.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:35 AM
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63. Self delete...
Edited on Sat Feb-05-05 09:36 AM by ikojo
I was thinking of A E PI....
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:51 PM
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74. right, ...but funny you should say that AOII was founded by
four women at Barnard who were really close friends and when they did not all four get bid to the same sorority they started AOPi.

they had decided to stick together no matter what so they did.

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:28 PM
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50. I was a Sigma Chi little sis - at that U
literally and figuratively....

real live little sister of a sig x at Wabash - and a fraternity little sis (Sig X) at depauw.

More than a few years earlier than you, though.

I agree with your assessment above (tiny cornfield town and U with nothing to do - greeks were probably 80% of students back in my time.)
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Tafiti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:24 AM
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57. No shit?!
Wow, that's actually the second time I came across a DePauw grad here at DU. That's crazy to me, considering how small it is.

Was it so many years ago that you'd rather not say? Just curious.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:24 AM
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60. Let's just say
that there have been more than a few graduating classes between you and I.

I am not surprised there are other dpu folks here because of size, but instead am surprised by the... er... general dpu population's proclivity for more conservative thought (at least it was that way when I was there...)
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:25 PM
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29. GDI all the way!
It was very fashionable in my circle (during the mid-late 70's) to be scornful of the whole Greek system. So naturally, I scorned. In retrospect, the Greeks were harmless, and if you've made lifelong friends - more power to you!
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:32 PM
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38. Yea Bunny.
Goddam Independent.
:thumbsup:
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:21 PM
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49. We were in the same sorority!!!!
I graduated from Northwestern in 1971. It was popular among some of us in the late 1960s - early 1970s as well.

:hi:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:15 PM
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40. Yep. I was - and still am - a Lambda Chi Alpha
Still support the fraternity, too. It was a damn good chapter I was in, and nationally, it's a damn good fraternity. One of the best ones out there. I was very much attracted to it because of its national "no hazing" policy and that it let Associate Members (there are no "pledges") hold office and vote as well.

If not for the fraternity, I probably wouldn't have made it through college, and wouldn't have made some of the life-long dear friends that I have now.
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koneko Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:29 PM
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42. Chi Omega
Marietta College
Class of '92
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Ramsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:30 PM
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43. We didn't have a Greek system
We had Eating Clubs! Same idea, just less selective, at least most were.
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:41 PM
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44. Does Phi Beta Kappa count?
:shrug:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:08 PM
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46. Depends. Did you ever go to a Phi Beta Kappa kegger?
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:11 PM
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47. No. But we have a special handshake. n/t
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:07 PM
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45. Alpha Omicron Pi
back in the late '60's
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:29 PM
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51. Delta Gamma
who knew? Most of my friends find it mildly amusing.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:32 PM
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55. Love the DGs. One of my best friends married one. n/t
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:01 AM
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56. Pi Kappa Alpha
Now here is the sad thing, of everything I learned in college, what I learned in the house has ended up helping me more in my career then anything I learned in a class.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:32 AM
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58. Sigma Phi Epsilon
A SPEnis, to those so inclined to call me that.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:33 AM
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59. Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia
Beta Nu Chapter. Music fraternity. We put on a variety show every fall and a Jazz competition every spring. And a keggar every weekend. ;-)
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:27 AM
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61. There were none at the conservatory I attended.... so no.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:28 AM
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62. You were a Deke? Isn't that the same fraternity as the
Edited on Sat Feb-05-05 09:51 AM by ikojo
chimp in chief?

No, I was not in a fraternity nor in a sorority...I saw them as friendship buying organizations and not for people from the working class. In hindsight, I can see why wealthy people encourage their kids to join them because it all but guarantees they will interact only with people of their same socio-economic class as well as network with people who may help them later in life.

As for why wealthy people encouraged their daughters to join sororities, in the past I think it was done to assure she would marry someone from her same social class. In the past girls were sent to school, not to get a BS or any type of degree but to get that MRS.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:36 AM
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64. Guilty. And GWHB too.
It ain't something I put on my resume'.
DKE was founded at Yale in 18something.
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Feathered Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:53 AM
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65. Good god, No
I had a few girlfriends that were in a Sorority. The humiliation is completely intolerable. Hazing rituals included having all you physical flaws pointed out to a fraternity, having to get rid of your friends outside the sorority, because they just didn't treat you the same if you kept them and generally being made to feel small and ugly. Post secondary education is a beautiful thing, not a chance to get drunk and pass out on the floor under the influence of roofies.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:14 AM
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66. I never understood why I should pay to have friends
At a university with 40,000 students, I found plenty of friends for free. And I didn't have to wear stupid-looking patches on my ass to do it.

Sorry to those who were, but at U of I especially they seemed awfully silly.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:30 AM
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68. "Pay for friends" - Interesting interpretation.
I never realized that's why I pay annual dues to belong to my local Democratic Party.
I'm buying friends.
Who knew?
:eyes:
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 08:41 PM
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73. So you're equating the greek system with the
Democratic Party? Because I don't pay my dues there to make friends, I pay them because I believe in the work they're doing.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:23 AM
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67. Alpha Kappa Psi
Co-ed business fraternity.

I was invited to join an all-male traditional fraternity, but I have ethical dilemmas against joining a group that excludes anyone else.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:30 AM
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69. University of Illinos, Chicago Circle Campus
1979. Alpha Pi Epsilon. APE's. We did that on purpose. It was just a bunch of us who knew each other from High School and thru others. The frats got a nice reserved place to sit in the cafeteria, booths and tables, their own bulletin board, etc. So we found a frat that did not exist on campus, started a chapter, and then spent the next 2 years making a mockery of the greek frat thing.

We had legendary everclear parties. Sex booze and drugs. Got booted eventually from the cafeteria for drinking and fighting. One member was a notorious dealer of speed. One member was a radio DJ on campus, and played whatever we wanted him to (Ramones!) Got tossed from the greek olympics for winning just about everything, plus adding white-castle-eating contests as a sport.

All in all, a big joke, as was my college career. Finally graduated 10 years after I started...

RL
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