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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:02 PM
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Do Creationists believe in Plate Tectonics?
One would think that this would be some of the best evidence available that the Earth is older than 6,000 years. I mean it is obvious that the continents used to be connected into one super continent, there is ample evidence on the ocean floor of continental drift, and it is evident to any freshman geology student that this spreading could not have happened withing 6,000 years.

How could they deny that kind of evidence?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:04 PM
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1. why even play their games.. it only encourages them..
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:04 PM
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2. By saying "God made it LOOK like that to trick you and test your faith"
same as they do with fossils and so on.
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:08 PM
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7. The Fossil Thing
A lot of ID people believe that the fossils are result of the flood from Genesis. How did they get so far into the earth? And why are fish fossilized, too? I never read their stuff long enough to find out.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:15 PM
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13. The flood myth is one of the dumbest stories in the Bible.
Let alone the logistics of gathering up two of every animal.

First of all it was blatantly stolen from the epic of Gilgamesh. Second since matter cannot be created of destroyed it would be impossible for there to be enough water to flood the earth, and for it all to have evaporated would cause us to drown just by breathing. Third, how would fresh water fish survive?

The sad thing is that the more absurd the belief the greater they think their faith is.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:04 PM
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3. Nope
Nor do they believe in radio-carbon dating, which is also tres inconvenient for young Earth types.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:12 PM
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10. UNLESS.................
it proves the Shroud of Turin or Jesus' brother James' Crypt to be from that time frame.......THEN........well.....MAYBE there's a little something to this carbon dating stuff......maybe!
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:04 PM
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4. Big Man In Sky Waves Hand And *Poof*!
It All Goes According To His Plan.

The folks who deny science are not going to be persuaded by reason. You cannot reason a man out of what he was not reasoned into in the first place (Sorry, Mr. Swift! I mangled your quote...)
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:06 PM
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5. When you believe in the myth, its explanatory power covers everything
I had a friend who worked on an oil rig-- drilling for petroleum deep beneath the earth, formed over millions of years. There were christian guys on her ship who explained this according to the "flood".
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:15 PM
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12. Yes.......BELIEF
replaces rational thought. It's much easier to believe than to think. What's the first lesson in the Old Testament? Do not eat from the tree of knowledge. You must not think and question, you must BELIEVE!
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:07 PM
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6. What people don't seem to understand about the creationists is that
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 07:08 PM by Worst Username Ever
everything, EVERYTHING, is less than 6000 years old. Anything at ALL, the light reaching us from stars, fossils, plate techtonics, evidence of glaciers, etc etc etc all were either A) put there by the devil to fool us away from god or B) put there by god to test our faith. Since god can create anything, it is possible for him to just wave his magic wand and boom, there are your plate techtonics.

It is pure faith, no rationality beyond that needed.

I always love how their main basis for believing in intelligent design is because there is no absolute proof that evolution existed (although there is). If the evidence they are talking about were placed right in front of them, they would still call it a trick of god/devil/sasquatch.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:12 PM
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9. And the earth is flat.....EOM
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:15 PM
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11. Do they still believe that? I don't think they beleive that anymore..
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 07:17 PM by Worst Username Ever
but I am sure they had to be shown pictures to get it through their heads.

I have heard many people believing that the earth is hollow. Not just the center, but actually hollow after about a mile or so in. huh.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:22 PM
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16. In all serious most probably don't......
But they are much more organized than we are, and they do give more money regularly. I used to live in the Bible Belt and there is literally a mega-church on every corner, and it amazes me how much money these people actually give/spend. It's time we got our act togethor and gave to our causes, and I am afraid we are falling behind. In addition to the fact we haven't got the message out to our beliefs.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:27 PM
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17. I agree, however,
what organization IS our cause? If there was some sort of agnostic church, I'd be all for it. Is there an organization for the advancement of common sense?
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:32 PM
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19. LOL....
I am also a fellow agnostic. If there were a religion that is very close to our beliefs it's probably Buddhism and Hinduism. However I thought about this, and true Christianity of Jesus and true Islam of Mohammed is also probably not that different from our beliefs.

I would say we are probably more religious and spiritual than most people who call themselves Christians or Muslims.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:37 PM
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20. I agree completely. It isn't christianity that does it so much as
christians. The basic teachings (love, respect, turning the other cheek) are actually wonderful, as are is the work many of the NON crazies do (manning the soup kithens, food drives, etc). I just can't get my head past the crazies.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:16 PM
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14. Exactly, nothing rational about it
As a Catholic I've always found it rather bemusing. My faith is not challenged one iota by the universe being millions of years old (Origen of Alexandria thought that it was ages before scientific study said it was). I thank God that we are 'fearfully and wonderfully made', and I thank God that among His many gifts to us intelligence and rational thought were included.

God wants us to explore this great pleace He has made for us, if we close our eyes to what is placed before us then we are shutting out His creation.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:38 PM
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21. I had 12 years of Catholic school
and came away very balanced in my beliefs. I had been taught creationism in my theology classes, and evolution in my bilogy classes.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:10 PM
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8. LOL
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:19 PM
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15. Because fundies think God is a liar.
Their god deliberately misleads us by planting fossils and other evidence. That's deceptive. That's lying. I don't know what kind of god they believe in, but any God worth believing in is NOT a liar like the fundy god.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:28 PM
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18. You're giving them way too much credit
I doubt the home-schooled fundies ever reach that level of study. And the fundies in public or private schools are allowed by their parents to overrule their science teachers by not listening or challenging with religious rhetoric. A parent here in Georgia stated he would rather his son flunk science than learn evolution.
That's the mentality.
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