What's The Hardest Drug You've Ever Done?

[THUNDER HANDS]

Poll question: What's The Hardest Drug You've Ever Done?

You...baaaad, baaaaad, people you.

:)

[Susang]

1. What about LSD?

You left out an entire generation! :-)

BTW, that's the hardest I've done.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

2. what's the diff. betw. 'rooms and LSD?

just wondering....

[David__77]

3. A lot!

LSD is much inorganic, while the mushrooms are natural, but still toxic. It's always been my impression that mushrooms are less harsh, though I could be wrong from a physiological perspective.

[NashVegas]

31. About 4-6 Hours

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[THUNDER HANDS]

13. oh crap

I KNEW I forgot something....damn pot.

[slackmaster]

19. I think Heroin is harder than LSD

And I've done both (but not at the same time), so I know.

You will respect my authoritayh!

[Susang]

54. I didn't say LSD was harder than heroin

At least I don't think I did. Who can tell with all these drugs floating around here? :silly:

BTW, I do respect your authoritayh, since I've never tried heroin. Always had a huge fear of needles, so it wasn't even an option for me back in the days when I might have actually considered it. Same with cocaine, I hate anything nasal like sprays or drops, and certainly not powder! I would only try things that could be smoked, eaten or drunk.

[BiggJawn]

27. Loved that "Orange Sunshine"...

Only did it once. What a nice little trip! That was 30 years ago and I still don't "regret" it....
Scratch my politcal ambitions....

Coke? What an expensive way to get your nose numb.
Speed? no effect.
Pot? Made me puke up "everything but my nuts"...

[Fozzledick]

43. It's not a 'hard' drug

It's more of a 'sqwuishy'.

[VermontDem2004]

4. I could answer yes

in 6 out of the 10 options, but I only regulary use 1, the other drugs I just 'experimented' with.

[Wetzelbill]

7. Gosh who would have expected a Vermont Democrat to

be in on this poll? :)

[VermontDem2004]

10. I live in Arizona

actually.

[Wetzelbill]

16. Me too, so then I can't mess with you I guess

[GumboYaYa]

21. LOL

I can beat your numbers, but I stick to one now too. It hurts too much to do the others.

[zauberflote]

5. Where is LSD and is crack worse than heroin?

Alas, I'm getting old.

[sam sarrha]

38. It is said that crack is the most addictive second only to ICE....

smokeable crank....

[Nevernose]

40. That was a fairly new study

And it also suggested that crystal meth has more long-term addiction, i.e. it takes longer to get hooked, but once you are, you're screwed.

Crack on the other hand leaves people craving more fifteen minutes after they try it.

(there's no such thing as "ice." There are different purities and consistantcies, but methamphetamine is methamphetamine. It's ALL smokable, btw)

[FlashHarry]

6. Damn. It's a good thing these polls are anonymous!

Are you sure they aren't directly linked to the Justice Department?

[bobja]

8. What about speed?

One of the nastiest drugs around. And believe me, I know.

[VermontDem2004]

12. I would agree with that

It is very addicting and what it does to people's physically (outer and inner) is pretty nasty.

[Scurrilous]

9. What about 'all of the above'...

..for the truly degenerate.. :evilgrin:

[Snow]

11. Mon, you left out peyote....

and morphine, and fentanyl *the health care providers' abuse drug of choice*, and meth, which is sweeping the trailer courts of the midwest, and PCP, for those wound-up days....maybe I'd better quit now..

[gWbush is Mabus]

14. what about

Oxycontin. hehehe

[scarlet_owl]

15. Opium.

Mixed with weed. It's lovely.

[supernova]

17. Consistently? Hard Liquor

I've had the opportunity to try both marajuana and cocaine but never did. I was honestly afraid I might like it, way too damn much.

[WillyT]

18. Love... It's A Bitch !!!

:evilgrin:

Still addicted tho.

[sam sarrha]

41. the love hormone is a member of the methadrine... you become

resistant to it over time, there is a level, when one passes it that is when she says "I love you, but I'm not 'in' love with you"... It is Mother Evolutions nasty joke that automatically ensures genetic diversity among a womans offspring...that provides a greater chance of some offspring surviving a disease of plague. relationships that are based on right brain mutual experiences, art, music, repetitious exersize...especially meditation have a MUCH higher chance of survival. there is a bonding hormone called oxytocin that binds a couple, it is produced by quiet, motionless cuddling, with maximum skin contact. there are 27 steps to human mating rituals, any 3 in a row can be skipped, but not 4. the key to bonding is to repeat at least 2 ritual actions upon meeting every time, hug-kiss-look in her/his eyes-stroke an arm/back.... my wife and i have never had an argument, we have known each other 32 years. but then we are both Buddhists..:grouphug:

[sam sarrha]

42. As a Buddhist I would have to say that the Hardiest and most Addictive

is Conventional Reality, as a non participating Alcoholic and veteran of many AA meetings, I find my Buddhist meetings strangely like AA meetings for people addicted to Conventional Thought....

[Guaranteed]

53. Wow.

That's impressive. Any more information on these 27 steps?

[PDittie]

20. You mean....like....today?

It depends on what the meaning of the word 'drug' is...

[Bombtrack]

22. I think LSD is harder than ecstacy

I've done both, and nothing harder

[Nevernose]

35. Ecstacy is MUCH worse

Acid has no permanent side-effects, kills no brain cells, and is the least addictive drug in the poll.

Ecstacy does all of those things, plus runs a significant risk of overdose. Chemically, X is in essence a super-powerful version of crystal meth.

[Susang]

56. X isn't like crystal meth

It's a seratonin booster and in it's pure form is not that dangerous. The problem results in what the dealers cut it with to make more money. That's why all those X booths started appearing at raves to test whether your X actually had any mdma in it or not.

BTW, did you know that on of the MDMA studies that is most cited is now discredited because the researchers found that they were actually giving the mice crystal meth instead of MDMA? I'm not a big fan of X (I rarely do any drugs anymore) but I despise the misinformation of the War on Drugs. I always try to remember that any study that is reported on rarely means what the media says it does. They simplify and distort the findings to fit the story and care little for the actual science.

[Nevernose]

67. Methyl Dioxy Meth Amphetamine

MDMA (ecstasy) is made in almost the same fashion. In fact, the actual creation of the ecstacy is just about two steps in the process beyond creating meth, where the "precursor" (methyl-amine?) for MDMA is synthesized with methamphetamine.

Meth (essentially a synthetic cocaine) is also a pretty powerful serotonin "booster." To prove my point, try this experiment: one weekend take a tab of ecsatsy; the next weekend take a large amount of meth (7 grams, or a quarter-ounce for the metrically impaired). The meth has to be taken all at once, so either intraveinously or swallowed. You will notice a remarkable coincidince.

You're right about the rave-booths, btw, but for the wrong reasons. Dealers, in my rather extensive experience, rarely "cut" their product, except with things that have no effect at all, i.e. talcum powder. What they do is sell something else entirely different, such as meth or heroin, and []i]call it ecstasy.

NTOE ON THE ABOVE EXPERIMENT: You're better off just not trying it all, now that I think about it.

[Blue-Jay]

23. Snorted coke once.

I didn't like it. Plus, I felt terrible for having snorted coke. It also tasted like I had let an aspirin dissolve in my mouth. Don't want to try it again.

I'll stick with the occasional joint from now on. :D

[RebelOne]

24. Cocaine

That was when I lived in Miami many years ago and it was easy to get and cheap to buy. Couldn't dare touch it now. My blood pressure is too high.

[SiobhanClancy]

25. Which is "harder",LSD or Cocaine?

I'm talking about the old orange sunshine/berkeley blood stuff from back in the day.
Not that it has any relevance for me,of course:)

[Exultant Democracy]

26. Yeah, what is the order of hardness for everything

so I know where to vote?

edit: I may have tried the majority of what is on the poll, but when I think about it Booze is far and away the worst one.

[Nevernose]

36. Cocaine

It might not fuck you up as much, but it has that seductive, addictive quality to it. No one robs banks 'cuz they're coming down and need another hit, right?

[Guaranteed]

52. Alright, so is E or Coke "harder," then?

I voted for coke, but I've done E too....should have thought before I did that.

[Raenelle]

28. Back in the days (before crack), I did everything

but nothing kicked my ass or distorted my personality like alcohol did.

[GOPisEvil]

29. Where's "speed"?

I did that exactly once. Unfortunately, my group of friends also decided to drink alcohol on the same night. Not pleasant.

Since then, only pot, and even then it's been years. :-)

[populistmom]

30. Shouldn't this be hardest illegal drug?

If it's hardest drug, I'd have to say Percoset or Demerol after childbirth and when I had my wisdom teeth removed. I've smoked weed many times and did mushrooms once years and years ago, but never did I want to hit anything harder. I think alcohol is a lot harder than marijauna also and I've had that too.

[xJlM]

32. Everything you listed, except Extacy

I got clean in 1989, though, and I've never looked back. Alcohol is probably the biggest killer on that list, and it's legal.

[BBradley]

33. Hard Liqour,

It is by far, the most damaging substance on that list, far more thn heroin or cocaine.

[toddzilla]

34. percocet..

if i could take a few of those every couple hours.. i wouldn't care who ran the country.. LOL

[elcondor]

37. Nyquil, baby

Seriously, I've never even tried anything (even alcohol). I don't feel any less of a person for not--but if you feel the need, as long as you're not harming anyone else! (Or doing it in access.) (In other words, I don't get preachy about it, I just don't want anyone, even the user, to get hurt.)

[KoKo]

39. No posts for Wine? White Wine/White Zinfandel/Merlot? What? Nothing?

That's my hardest drug......Well, I'm just a little "angel." You guys scare me!

[Kat45]

44. Hash

No biggie.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

45. Actually I did Rush's drug of choice, Oxycoton.

But it was prescribed to me after hernia surgery.

[kixot]

46. Is LSD harder than crack or heroin?

I'm confused.

[pfitz59]

47. Mescaline. Peyote. 'Shrooms. Opium. Whatever.......

Plentitude of pot. Fortified beer. Freebase. LSD. Hey, DEA lurker, any more I should mention? Biggest rush was flying a jet upside-down over Drake Passage in US Virgin Islands. Currently clean and sober! Oh yes, Paxcil makes for mind-blowing orgasms!

[pfitz59]

48. Best "high" adventure.....

Hiking-out trailing my hair in the water, butt-naked, while sailing a Laser over the blue Caribbean in a tropical downpour off the coast of Negril Jamaica.

[mitchtv]

50. "Sunshine" at Machu Pichu

was fun for me-

[mitchtv]

49. where is all of the above?

BTW i'm counting MDA as ectasy

[blondeatlast]

51. Nothing illegal, but I have been high.

Before I've had my heart surgeries, they give Benadryl and Valium.

No worries . . .

I've also been on Oxycontin, a la Rush, but I avoided taking it out of fear of addiction; it worked and I'm clean.

[HEyHEY]

55. Lysol!

No, it'd have to be good old Hash

[FDRrocks]

57. X

though I am not sure if LSD is stronger than X, really. I think LSD did more damage to me, overall.

I've smoked Marijuna laced with PCP and Coke (Chronic), but I don't really consider that 'doing'.

[OneBlueSky]

58. so which is "harder?" . . .

LSD or coke? . . . inquiring minds want to know . . .

[FDRrocks]

60. Coke, I would say.

If you could get seriously addicted to a hallucinogen (physically, I suppose), then I would say LSD is worse, due to the severe after-effects.

[DoNotRefill]

59. Opium/Morphine....

LOVE them poppies!!!! :)

[Dogmudgeon]

61. Definition of "Hard Drugs"

I studied this in college while avoiding taking the lab. :-)

These aren't my definitions, they were working definitions that developed in the late 1950s. The term "Hard Drugs" was then plucked for use in the War On (Some) Drugs.

(Caveat: This is based on memory, but I'm pretty sure it's all correct, or at least quite close. If you need actual, real, scientifically-accurate information, you should consult the current literature and/or public health scientists.)

Hard drugs: Addictive
In order of "hardness": nicotine, ethyl alcohol, barbiturates, opiates/opioids, cocaine, amphetamine(s), cathinone derivatives (Qat, etc.), benzodiazepines e.g. Xanax, dissociative anesthetics (ketamine etc.) NOTE this loose ranking is idealized and not subject to factors involved in the illicit drug trade.

Soft Drugs: Non-Addictive
LSD and other lysergates, marijuana, psilocybin and other tryptamine derivatives, mescaline and other substituted phenalkylamines (includes MDMA or "Ecstasy"), Ayahuasca (beta-carbolines), salvinorin and similar phytoalcohols.

Non-Addictive but Dangerous
Inhalation drugs: toluene, xylene (both in "airplane glue"), aerosolized paint, electronic-dusting spray (toxic anesthetic freon derivatives)

IMPORTANT NOTE!
There is no such thing as a "safe" intoxicant!

Did I miss anything?

--bkl

[Feanorcurufinwe]

64. What about the relative side effects and dangers thereof

and where does STP fit in that list of hallucinogens?

[maveric]

62. You forgot the "hardest" and most dangerous. Methamphetamine.

It messes you up worse than heroin and is harder to kick.

[Piperay]

63. Peyote not on the list

NOT that I am saying anything regarding it, hmmmmmmm. :shrug:

[Nevernose]

68. That's the only one I HAVEN'T tried

Any good, btw?

[trigz]

65. Student life in Britain...

...was full of toxic surprises, to say the least. Now that I'm grown up I realise it wasn't the most clever thing I've ever done. Still enjoy the odd whiff of a spliff though, mind.

[LibertyorDeath]

66. Hello where's the Mescaline Mr Morrison would be so disappointed

No not pcp real Mescal wow it was just this side of Heaven...

[MissMillie]

69. Is marijuana harder than liquor????

Granted, I know it's illegal and liquor isn't, but does that make it harder?

[Fozzledick]

70. No, 'hard' means physically addictive

Alchohol is addictive, marijuana isn't.

AFAIK, the most addictive drugs are sedative-hypnotics, such as methaqualone (qualudes), with tranquilizers and barbiturates second and third.

I find it interesting that, according to medical records made public, the whole time the Reagans were in the White House Nancy was prescribed (and presumably consumming) one sedative-hypnotic and one tranquilizer at all times. The whole time she was telling the country to "just say no" she was stoned out of her mind on the most addictive drugs available!:crazy: