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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:20 PM
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Since the Patriots have a "dynasty" now, it's time to hate them, right?
Isn't that how it works with you guys?
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:22 PM
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1. Naaaah---(but it's okay to hate the Yankees)
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:25 PM
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9. like it was ok to hate the Bulls after getting bored with Michael Jordan?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:26 PM
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11. Perchance, are you a Mets fan? nt
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:33 PM
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19. I live in Massachusetts where Yankee hating is in our blood.
So it's not the Mets,it's the Sox.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:38 PM
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23. OK, gotcha. But you showed them this year, and
we loved it! We were in MX during the WSeries. My husband is from MA, their 'curse', end of story. Luckily we had a hotel room w/a TV! That was FABULOUS! But I'm from NY, have a dad who is a Mets fan. I'm a Giants fan, only sport I like to watch, so this definitely wasn't our year.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:58 PM
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30. I love it when you guys come down to the Bronx and go crazy in the
stands, there are lots of interesting skirmishes.
it's like going to a u conn game anywhere but conn!
it's exhilarating.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:20 AM
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45. don't let them fool you ...
there are many, many Yankee fans who have infiltrated Massachusetts ...
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:57 AM
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50. so there is some cross pollination, huh? interesting.....
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:08 AM
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62. football has a salary cap, the yankees buy their titles
it's a difference, and not a subtle one at that.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 08:17 PM
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66. bullcrap
the Yankees payroll was right in line with the rest of the league when they won their titles. No one complained when they had the highest payroll in the 80s. Did the Red Sox buy their title. They were second in payroll.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:22 PM
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2. I liked 70s Steelers, hated 80s 49ers, loved 90s Cowboys
Have not decided about the Pats. I finally figured out not to bet against them, tho.

I wanted the Eagles to win (Chicago thing). Damn.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:25 PM
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10. Why did you hate the 80's 49ers?
:shrug:
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:28 PM
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15. I hate ND
hate, hate, hate, hate, hate ND. Therefore, I could not stomach Montana.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:23 PM
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3. Nah. I'm not a Pats fan, but I give them a lot of
respect.

They're an awesome team. Brady is an amazing quarterback, and Belichek is one of the best coaches ever.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:27 PM
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14. AMEN! Great team and they have
Edited on Sun Feb-06-05 10:29 PM by babylonsister
earned all the kudos (sorry, LinSin).

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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:23 PM
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4. Nah! As for me, it's more about the coaches--loved Dallas in their
70's dynasty, hated them in the 90's with Jimmie Johnson, a poor excuse for a human being!
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:24 PM
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5. Yes
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:25 PM
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6. Do they have a MANDATE, too?
If so, I hate them.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:25 PM
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7. All the junior high kids are gonna start loving them now.
When I was in 6th and 7th grade (1994-1995), everyone LOVED either the 49ers or Cowboys. I was the lone Vikings fan, and this was in the heart of VIKINGS COUNTRY (Minneapolis). My younger brother told me about how after the Buccanneers won the Super Bowl, EVERYONE at his school became a Bucs fan.

Now I'm assuming those kids who go to school there now are gonna all be Patriots fans.

That's Junior High kids for you.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:25 PM
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8. Are you a hater.....or a playa hater?
:smoke:
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:28 PM
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16. i have no hate in me, especially for teams for fucksakes.....
i could care less! i'm much more curious about the rabid fans/ haters.

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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:32 PM
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17. Isn't it fun to dissect the human species
Their minds anyway.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:37 PM
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22. you know how i mindfuck my friends when they take me to a game?
i listen to the person on the other side or in front of me, and when they say something like, ohmigod, "that was an awesome takedown" i'll turn to my companion, who knew i don't know shit and don't talk sports, and i'll say " lord, that was a bodacious takedown!! "
and they always are fooled into thinking i know what i'm referring to! LOL!
it's more fun than watching the game.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:26 PM
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12. "You guys?" Are you talking to the socialists on this board?
Edited on Sun Feb-06-05 10:28 PM by LoZoccolo
Yeah that's how it works with them. They think everyone should have an equal turn at winning!

:+
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:33 PM
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18. I meant you guys who ever have love/ hate things about teams...
or who even watch football at all!
i didn't, i don't, and have no real feeling for teams. fans are interesting, teams? pfft!
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:27 PM
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13. Actually I'm glad that it's an AFC team that is a dynasty
Now if the Bengals can fuckin' win a Super Bowl I can be happy.
:)
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:34 PM
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20. Yes. Their story has become tiresome. And the Red Sox too.
Sorry, Will.

Bake
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:41 PM
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26. That was my next question, but I think the Sox won't be truly hated until
they beat the Yanks again. So that ain't gonna happen.
We bought ourselves a nice team this year!
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:37 PM
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21. I hated them when they beat the steelers...so it goes without saying. (nt)
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Osamasux Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:39 PM
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24. I didn't like the way Bill Belichick screwed the Jets.
They had groomed him to be their next coach. He waited until after they had made the announcement that they were promoting him, then announced he was taking a job elsewhere. That was as classless a move as I've ever seen. All he had to do was let them know his plans ahead of time. That was not much to ask at all.

I know the media doesn't, but I have a long memory for things like that.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:40 PM
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25. Truthfully, I'd rather see it be the Patriots than a team I already hate.
Now if it was the Buccanneers, then I wouldn't be able to STAND it.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:45 PM
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27. but it sounds like you are planning on hating them at a future date......
i mean, it's inevitable. the only question is when.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:47 PM
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28. Maybe if they win 3 or 4 more SB's in a row.
Maybe eventually I'll become sick of it.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:50 PM
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29. Not a dynsasty
One of the best teams ever, but not a dynasty.

Yet.

See you next year.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:08 PM
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31. you should just appreciate that i'm giving the pats more credit than
they deserve then.
so when they are a dynasty, in what-- two years, three tops?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:26 PM
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33. Two more championships
Then we'll talk.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:36 PM
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37. One championship more, and then all their knees are going to blow.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:59 PM
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42. Sorry ,they're officially the team of the 00's
I know it's hard for a Bostonian to have a recent winning sports teams in the same city but, get over it, don't be such a sore winner. You know longer have to sacrifice BoSox world series for the Celtics NBA titles. Not too many cities get to have two winning franchises in the same city so good luck.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:11 AM
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44. Oh, wait
I'm not dissing my Pats.

But there are stadards for a 'dynasty.'

See: Steelers 1974-1981.

*That* was a dynasty.

See: The 49ers during the entire Clinton administration.

*That* was a dynasty.

That Pats? Not quite.

Fun? Hell yeah. But not a dynasty.

Yet. :)

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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:40 AM
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48. Actually the 49ers were a dynasty during the "Reagan 80's"
The dynasty during the Clinton 90's was the Dallas Cowboys who did the same thing the New England Patriots have just done.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:02 AM
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61. No - not yet.
I remember when the Redskins were primed to be the team of the 80's.

Then the 49ers won a couple more Super Bowls in the late 80's to take it away.

If the Pats don't win another one this decade, much may be forgotten - especially if someone else can win 3.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:27 PM
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63. All you need is to win more Super Bowls than anyone else and you're-
the dynasty of that decade. So far it looks pretty good for the Patriots as the team of the 00's.
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sparky_in_ma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:11 PM
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32. No No No
Bad bettyellen:spank: :)
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:46 PM
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38. yes yes yes
i'm sorry sparkeeeee. but you know i grew up 2 1/2 miles from yankee stadium?
and nyc has had more sox fans than it does yankee fans at this point. the bronx does!
i think boston is on a pedastal right now, championship wise. and we both know how you get off a pedastal, right? it's not going to be pretty. i'm just saying.
:toast:
to the end of the season!
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sparky_in_ma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:51 PM
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39. : )
Ok, how about we let the Yankees win next year and the pats get another go at it? Try to picture Tom Brady with a good tie, suspenders and glasses:toast:
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:06 AM
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43. (-:
that's sounds fair, because we certainly did buy ourselves a nice team this year.
suspenders would be a nice addition, neck ties, not so much!
they have their place though, lol.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:30 PM
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34. The Patriots are military type mascot..good grief.
This is going to get lots of mileage at the White House. I bet Bush is going to use some military analogy when he invites the team over for presidential praise.



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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:32 PM
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35. Possible Bush one-liners for the Patriots
"Either you are with them or against them"

"How about I use them to enforce the Patriot Act?"

"Three titles in four years, that's more of a mandate than I had!"
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:56 PM
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41. i'm not against them yet, but probably in two years i will really
really hate the sox. in three, i will hate the patriots.
but last year, i was actually happy for them, that's how nice i am.
i just know it's not going to last. can't take alll the bx out of me.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:35 PM
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36. Not a dynasty -- they work for a living
Sure, they whooped our ass in Pittsburgh, but did it mighty fine, and I couldn't be mad at them. They're a damn good team. Even before the Super Bowl, I thought them unbeatable.

There's nothing "inherited" about any Patriot victory. They win it, hard, every time. That's why they're the best.

Don't confuse rooting for the underdog with inability to see reality.

If you're a freep and you're trying to make a message for your beloved truly dynastic GW, well, you know what you can do, dear...
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:53 PM
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40. Nooooooooooooo!
Ordinarily, I wouldn't care, but I wanted the Eagles to win so I could troll on freeper territory re Oxyrush and his comments about McNabb!:evilfrown:
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:26 AM
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46. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssss!!!
sorry you have to find something new to troll about- how about you agitate to close fertility clinics because they kill some many blastocysts, and in chicago, that's illegal now!
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 05:48 PM
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64. Meh
Not as fun as exposing Oxyrush as the scum that he is in front of millions:evilfrown:
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:49 PM
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67. well, there's fun and then there is fun.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:27 AM
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47. Shrug
I am not gonna like them because they'll be playing my team in key playoff moments. By chance are you one of those things called a Yankees fan, I'll forgive ya becasue I can forgive that.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:56 AM
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49. dude, i have to root for the yankees, it's on my birth certificate!
i'm just asking when are they gonna get knocked off their block, you know?
the tide has got to roll back for boston soon, right?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:58 AM
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51. and dude I have to hate the Yankees, its on mine as well
I am an Orioles fan, I'll take a second place finish to you guys I guess.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:02 AM
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52. we are going to kick your ass!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:03 AM
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53. Youre bragging that you can beat a team with 1/3 your team's payroll
's ass. Thats like me bragging about beating a 5 year old's ass. Hisses to the Yankees :), hisses all around.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:05 AM
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54. i'm gonna scratch your eyes out GGRRRR! What are they supposed to do with
all that money $$$. Lower pretzel prices?
I think not.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:10 AM
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55. Share the wealth
:shrug: you're bragging about being able to beat a team that won 79 games last year and you guys won like 100 games last year, but hey the yankees have been choking as of late so the ways things go, by the time I am 25, a new dynasty will have the AL East,
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:15 AM
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56. if you read my post "how i mindfuck my friends" #22, you might
begin to understand that i'm not interested in the actual games or teams pre se, but i love talking trash and gambling, so i just kinda fall into it. you'll notice i never said i hated the patriots, yet some one asssumed i did and one even called me a freep over this thread! Damn, you sports nuts are rough.
BWAAAAHHHHH!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:46 AM
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57. Hey I didnt call you a freep, I just hate the Yankees, cut the slack eh
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 07:56 AM
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58. no, not you john, this person did! ha ha ha...
i have no idea what he's trying to say here:

chookie  (1000+ posts)
Sun Feb-06-05 11:35 PM
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36. Not a dynasty -- they work for a living

Sure, they whooped our ass in Pittsburgh, but did it mighty fine, and I couldn't be mad at them. They're a damn good team. Even before the Super Bowl, I thought them unbeatable.

There's nothing "inherited" about any Patriot victory. They win it, hard, every time. That's why they're the best.

Don't confuse rooting for the underdog with inability to see reality.

If you're a freep and you're trying to make a message for your beloved truly dynastic GW, well, you know what you can do, dear...
 
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 08:46 AM
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59. Nope, I've always not liked them. I've not liked any team not dressed
in green and gold. I dislike them more for trying to claim rights to coaching greatness the likes of Lombardi. That will never be. :hi:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 09:01 AM
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60. You're confusing them with the talking heads that are paid
to do nothing but yap and compare :-)
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 07:31 PM
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65. No, I don't hate them
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 07:32 PM by mvd
I reserve my greatest scorn for the Repukes in power. It's just that being a Philly fan, some of the frustration of not having a championship in so long rubs off on the winning teams.

I heard something about a Moses Malone 4-4-4-4 curse (referring to winning in 4 games.) Karma coming back. Well, all 4 teams have now lost in the big one since 1983, and about 4 years apart. That means the next Philly team to get to the big game or series wins.

Of course, I worry about Reid in the playoffs/Super Bowl against good coaches..
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The Blue Knight Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:40 PM
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68. I like the Patriots -- I'm a Bengals fan though.
I like the Patriots because they play teamball. You won't see Tom Brady on a video game commercial boasting that he's the best in the league like TO. They don't talk smack, they're a bunch of blue-collar guys and they execute.

But, I won't mind when the Bengals dethrone them next year. Carson Palmer is going to be unleashed, baby! :-D
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 10:46 PM
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69. yeah, talking smack should be for the fans, not the players.
it's a rare athlete that can pull that off and still be lovable.
muhammed ali and who else?
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