911 Operator Calls Mother 'Stupid' After Pit Bull Attacks Boy

[johnnie]

"A Cincinnati 911 dispatcher faces discipline after a mother who made a frantic call for help said she was outraged by the dispatcher's response.
The mother called to report the family's pit bull had attacked her 18-month-old boy.

<snip>

"Here's what was said when Osborne called 911:

Dispatcher: "What kind of dog attacked him, Samantha?"

Dispatcher, repeating: "What kind of dog attacked him, Samantha?"

Samantha to her husband: "What kind of dog is JD?"

Husband: "He's a pit bull."

Samantha to operator: "He's a pit."

Dispatcher: "Stupid people."
Tom Rapp, the dispatchers' supervisor, called the remark "unacceptable" and said the dispatcher could be suspended.

Even though it's no excuse, Rapp said, emotions do get the best of his dispatchers sometimes.

"Any call you take involving a kid becomes 10 times more emotional. You find yourself wrapped up," he said.

When Osborne listened to a tape of the frantic call again, the entire nightmare was replayed: a little boy scarred for life and a mother trying to overcome the guilt.

"I never want someone else to hear those words from a 911 dispatcher, to feel the way I'm feeling. It's not right," Osborne said.

The little boy is out of the hospital after getting 17 stitches on his eyes and mouth.

The family dog was put down. "

more:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=387&e=1&u=/kcra/20050210/lo_wews/2578809


Maybe she should have put her hand over the transmitter? :shrug:

[davidinalameda]

1. maybe have the mother put down

I agree with the dispatcher

STUPID!

[Wcross]

49. I would have called her a dumb shit.....

I guess thats why I couldn't/wouldn't be a dispatcher.

[Spock_is_Skeptical]

50. That's what I say.... STUPID STUPID!

Sounds like guilt-ridden mommy is trying to displace her guilty conscience by complaining about the dispatcher.
Either that, or she's thinking she might get something out of the complaint... such as money.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

2. oh friggin get over it, stupid

give me a break.

[hippiechick]

3. Well, she IS stupid.

Truth hurts.
What a Dumbass.

[MadHound]

12. And why is she stupid?

Because she has a dog? Or because she has what a breed that is the latest, greatest "bad" dog breed, a breed that gets a rap for being a killer?

When will you people get it through your heads that it isn't the breed of dog that makes them violent, it is how the dog is raised. I was raised with German Shepards, the killer dog of the day. And yes, I carry a dog bite scar to this day. But I got the scar from my grandmother's pug.

The only other time I got bit was when I was a vetrinary asst. Reached into a kennel too fast, and had a dachsund latch onto my little pinkie.

If you go back in the literature, it was noted that pit bulls were good dogs, kind and gentle, good with kids. The L'il Rascals had a pet dog with them, a pit bull.

Pit Bulls have gotten a bad rap because they were used and abused, first as good fighting dogs, and then because it became the gangsta macho pet to have. Get a pit pup, abuse it, make it mean and vicious, and yes, before you know it, the whole breed gets a bad rap.

Once more people, IT ISN'T THE BREED THAT MAKES A BAD DOG, IT'S THE OWNER!

[johnnie]

13. Maybe she meant the owner is just plain stupid

Because she didn't know what kind of dog she had.

[DrWeird]

17. Doubtful.

That's not the kind of thing people would get upset about other people forgetting in a panic situation.

[LynneSin]

18. I totally disagree and here's why...

..my friend brought a pitbull puppy into her home along with a Basset/Beagle mix and a Lab/Daschound mix. The Lab mix had been with her for over 10 years and she had only recently added the pitbull and Basset mix.

This person would regularly go on vacation in summertime and the dogs would have to be kennelled. The first 2 times she went away she would always have the pit bull kennelled by herself and the Lab & Basset in their own kennel. Mind you, these kennel cages were long enough to house up to 4 dogs (always from the same household only) and of course the dogs got plenty of time outside of the cage for play time. It was a very reputable kennel she used.

But the 3rd time she decided to kennel all 3 together. She had all 3 of these dogs now for a year and all 3 got along famously together. Hell when I first met the pitbull she crawled up into my lap like a lap dog and promptly fell asleep with me scratching her belly.

So when she got back from the vacation, the got a shock of a lifetime. It turns out that something freaked out the pit bull and he mauled to death the 11 year old Lab mix. Because it happened after hours it was too late to save the Lab mix from the pitbull but the Basset was able to get out of there alive.

It's a shame because the Lab Mix had been with her forever and it was a horrible way to die. We all warned her about adopting the pit bull but she felt that she had the love to give to what she thought was a friendly dog (she volunteered at an animal rescue place as a dog walker which is how she found the dog in the first place).

Pit Bulls can be great pets, but they can be freaked out by something and turn on a dime. We'll never know why the pitbull killed the Lab mix even though those 2 dogs had frolicked together for a year before the incident. Ultimately she had the pit bull put to sleep since you never know when these things will attack again.

I have no problem with folks owning pitbulls but there seems to me that a little more regulation is needed for these animals. There are too many pit bulls filling our kennels and too many wrong folks owning these dogs. Personally I think all Pit Bulls should required neutering except those who are licensed as pit bull breeders. And if I had children or other pets I would not bring a pit bull into my home.

But that's just my opinion. Even the friendliest Pit Bulls can still be dangerous!

[SemiCharmedQuark]

23. But that has nothing to do with the pit bull breed.

A pitbull dog can be vicious, by breeding, by mistreatment or by just a bad upbringing. But the breed as a whole is incredibly gentle.

Now, animal aggression is different than people aggression. The trait of aggression towards other animals was bred into pits and any reliable breeder will tell you that it can never be 100% guaranteed that it is gone. Terriers, all terriers, have a drive to seek out prey. So, it is likely a pit, no matter how trained, has it in its genetic code to nip or bite. Pits were bred for work that included bull baiting, and unfortunately dog fighting. It is because of this that even though a pit is loved, they still can possibly turn on a dog, even a lifetime mate. Because of this some breeders attempt to hide away their dogs to stop dog fighting. But this is harmful too. The dog must be properly socialized under supervision.

HOWEVER, they were bred for their loving nature towards humans. And although this may at first seem a contradiction to their bull baiting purpose, it's not. Even people who fight dogs have to handle and train their dogs, and they DON'T want a dog that is going to turn on them.

So, no, Im not surprised by the unfortunate incident with your friend's dog. But again, a responsible breeder would have told her that pits cannot be trusted 100% with other animals left unsupervised. Unfortunately, the death of her other dog was the fault of that breeder.

[MadHound]

25. So you're going to base your opinion of a whole breed

On one incident that you personally knew of? An incident that you don't know the full story of, but automatically find fault with the pit because of your own preconcieved prejudices? How do you know that this incident wasn't started by the Lab attacking the pit? Labs and Dachsunds, after all, are statistically more likely to bite than pits. Or perhaps it was because there was some other outside stimulus, like the kennel unwisely placing a female in heat in with the general population, a sure fire way to get a dog fight going amongst even the friendliest of dogs. Who knows, you said yourself that nobody does, thus your basis for judgement is flawed.

If I were to base my opinions on one isolated instance, then I would be labeling Pugs as mean vicious dogs, yet I don't. There is no dog in this world that is a natural born killer. It is a matter of how the dog is raised, what external stimuli are given to the dog, and how that dog is raised.

Any dog can attack a human. They are animals and act off of animal instincts. If they are approached wrong, or they don't believe that you belong in their territory, or they are motivated by external stimuli, like another dog in heat, then yes, they will react. But this truism applies to not only pits, but poodles, beagles to bulldogs. Simply branding a whole breed as killers is the same as branding a whole race of humans as savages, it is ignorant and bigotted.

I've got a pit myself, and she is a sweet natured, intelligent, friendly dog. Anytime you wish to come visit, she will gladly slobber all over your face to show you her love and affection. After all, she does that with my nieces, nephews, and children of friends. She also puts up with having her tail pulled, and ears yanked. And she keeps coming back for more, because like all dogs I've raised, she is a good, friendly dog.

[ScreamingMeemie]

36. I would say that the Pit Bull was acting out. If the dogs had been

kenneled together from the start it may not have happened.

Case in point, my dog is a sheltie. Her mother was a champion that had been raised strictly in a kennel, not a house. She was skittish and shy. Her daughter, Jessie, was raised by the breeder in the home with kids, cats and other dogs. Jessie is friendly, well adjusted and will lick a stranger to death before she would think of biting. A lot of it has to do with how people perceive the animal. Dogs handled with fear tend to be aggressive. :hi:

[KurtNYC]

20. One of us 'people' believes that the breed is bred to fight

I just must be crazy or something huh? What a crazy idea: dogs can be bred for certain temperments and characteristics. I know that sounds completely nutso because if that were true then you could breed say boxers, labs and golden retrivers to be seeing eye dogs. You could breed dogs specifically to retreive birds and the genetic disposition would be so strong that a breed like say Golden retrievers would demonstrate a preference to walk around with something soft in their mouth even if their owners have never trained them to do so. Oh wait, they do do those things!

And I am not the only one who thinks so:

Jennifer Segal is a dog trainer who chooses not to work with pit bulls. She says years of improper breeding have made them not only aggressive but deadly.

"There are a number of young people, particularly male, particularly under the age of 28, who find it to be some type of cultural element to have this type of arm jewelry, pulling them around. It's the macho appearance."

Pit bulls were originally bred in 19th-century England to fight other dogs in pits. That's now rare, but Merle Blaine of the Etobicoke Humane Society in Toronto says it still happens.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/dogs/

[SemiCharmedQuark]

24. They were bred to fight dogs and bull bait, they were also bred for gentle

qualities towards humans. You have to look at the whole story.

Any quality breeder will tell you to keep pits away from other animals if they are unsupervised. However, pits still have to be socialized WITH supervision, otherwise how are they to learn to behave with other dogs? Vets will tell you the same thing. They were bred to be vicious towards other animals, NOT humans. In fact, they were bred specifically to be gentle with humans. Look up a pit bull history.

And you are right, dogs ARE bred for characteristics and THIS dog was bred for gentleness towards humans.

[MadHound]

27. And interestingly enough, English Bulldogs were bred to do the same

To fight bulls and bears and all sorts of brutal sport. Yet in today's modern perception, bulldogs are looked upon as loveable, ugly dogs, so ugly that they're cute. They don't have the rap that pits do, because quite frankly the dogs haven't been raised to be killers, unlike pits which are routinely raised to fight.

Hell, if you raise a poodle to fight, it will. It isn't in the breed of the dog, it is in how that dog is raised. Even that clever quote you included mentions that.

[KurtNYC]

29. I don't follow this

it is in how that dog is raised. Even that clever quote you included mentions that.

No, I think the clever quote says "years of improper breeding have made them not only aggressive but deadly."

And a dog trainer says there is nothing she can do about it. I don't know how the case can be made more clearly.

[MadHound]

33. Read a little further please

"There are a number of young people, particularly male, particularly under the age of 28, who find it to be some type of cultural element to have this type of arm jewelry, pulling them around. It's the macho appearance."

Thus, these people raise this "arm jewelry" to be mean, so that they can be tough and macho. Get it now?

And quite frankly, if that dog trainer refuses to work with pits, she shouldn't be in the business. Pits are some of the easiest dogs to train and work with, due to their intelligence and wish to please. Having been around and worked with literally thousands of dogs, being around a pit is always a pleasure, excepting for the ones I've had brought in from the fight pits, and sadly, in SW Missouri, that was quite common. And funny enough, even these supposed vicious fighting dogs were easy to work with. They knew that I was working to ease their pain, and were calm and cooperative, much more so than their POS owners.

[ScreamingMeemie]

39. Responsible breeders breed the best of the bunch.

THey do it for the love of the breed...not for the money. Jessie's breeder doesn't make a profit off of her dogs. She does it to better the breed. Get your dog from a responsible breeder, and not a puppy miller, and avoid the problem. This is as it is with all breeds.

[shrike]

56. Sometimes the breed also attracts assholes

My late neighbor's adult son had a pit bull. Dog's name was Buddy. He used to bring Buddy over when he visited our yard. Big, ugly dog, and abused, I'm sure of it; any time you reached out to pet him he would flinch. But sometimes, when I was working in the garden, he would come over to our yard and nuzzle me -- I think all he really wanted was someone to love him.

I grew rather fond of Buddy, but after the old lady died I never saw her son anymore. Turns out he had acquired a female pit as well and she and Buddy had had puppies. One day, the guy went after the female and the pups with a 2x4. Buddy attacked him and nearly killed him, I guess. He shot the dog and left it in a field. A few days later Buddy came crawling up to his front door -- the poor thing was still alive. They got a vet to put him down.

Poor Buddy. What a sad life. I should have followed my instincts and reported the situation to the ASPCA.

[kodi]

59. from personal experience, i don't trust pit bulls

i have had dogs most of my life, do rescue work locally and still have 6 dogs.

my personal experience with pit bulls is that they are okay as pups, and at about 3-4 years of age they tend to get unresponsive to obedience and have attacked their owners. it happened in my presence twice, once to my roommate in grad school and then to the boyfriend of my own girl friend's roommate. both times i knew the dogs from pups and helped raise them, but they turned on their masters.

sorry to bring this up, but PERSONALLY, i don't trust them and certainly do think people who own them are asking for trouble.

i am familar with the phrase that "there are no bad dogs, just bad owners," but i don't buy that about dogs any more than i do about people. some things are just born bad, or at least with pit bulls a quantifiable increased capacity towards aggression or to turn on loved ones.

I am not afraid of dogs. i own 3 big, 130-pound-plus kuvaszok right now, and if you never heard of them, they are about the most headstrong and powerful dog you could find, and I trust my kuvaszok with my life. i would never trust a pit bull and if i have to be around them you can bet i am checking to see what i can reach for to beat that dog off of me in case it attacks.

[petronius]

21. You may be right...

...but in this case it was the womans dog. So, she's either stupid for having the dog-of-death (tm), or she's stupid for being a bad owner. Although the operator was way out of line for saying anything - there's a time and place for pointing out other peoples mistakes, and this wasn't it.

[EC]

22. I agree, I've got a Pit and a German Shepard mix

both dogs are very loveable. But the woman was stupid, any child at the age of 18 months should not be alone with ANY breed of dog...they don't know how to behave around animals yet... even cats are a no-no for kids that age...I've seen kids squeeze cats and get scratched only to see the parent blame the cat...when there are pets children under the age of 3-4 should be supervised and taught proper behavior around animals, no squeezing, no pulling hair, tails, ears, or whiskers, no kicking, hitting or yelling, their little voices are quite shrill and irratating to animals...

[elehhhhna]

32. amen.

[ThorsHammer]

31. Well said, from a fellow GSD owner

[flvegan]

40. We have a number of pits and pit mixes in our rescue.

They all came from abusive owners. One was starved and left on a chain. One was used as bait for fighting. Now, they're in a loving, supportive environment with only positive reward training. They're thriving, and I'd trust any of them.

We've also placed a number of previously abused pits. Haven't had a single complaint or problem pop up.

The problem is that when a pit bites, it maims, tears, breaks, etc. due to very powerful jaws that can lock when clamped down. They do incredible damage. I've personally known more folks bitten by Cockers and Chihuahuas than pits. Those bites just don't require plastic surgery to fix.

[shrike]

57. See my above post

For the tragic story of Buddy, the pit bull who deserved better in life.

[Maine-ah]

43. thankyou, I feel the same.

to boot, it was a child that is a year and a half old. Have you ever seen what a young children do to pets? It's not the kid's fault either, the parents should be paying more attention, IMHO. We have labs, but when the neices and nephews are over, we pay close attention because you just never know. Also, pets can get jealous of a new baby, and especially when that child is mobile. I've seen it. Christ, what would you say if it was a cat that hauled out its claws and went across the kids face? Children don't know, it's cute and its fuzzy and they want to "love the kitty". Thanks for letting me rant, this particular subject pisses me off.

[LibertyLover]

53. Correct

As my dogs' trainer likes to say: "Attitude flows down the leash." I've known several pit bulls and they have been very nicely behaved, lvoing dogs. Heck, in Ireland people freak out over 'mean, vicious greyhounds' and as far as I'm concerned, a grey is one of the most laid back dogs you could hope to find.

[AngryAmish]

55. The mother owned the dog

Therefore, she is a bad mother/owner. And stupid for having a child around her dog that was poorly brought up.

[MountainLaurel]

58. Of course it's not the breed

And I say this as someone who's had three pit bulls in the family.

But no matter what the breed, you NEVER EVER leave a child that young with a dog alone. An adult needs to be right there within arms' reach at all times to monitor the situation.

That's why she's a stupid goombah who will hopefully be torn up with guilt every time she looks at that child's scars.

[BiggJawn]

60. so show me some crackah who DOESN'T make their Pit Bull mean...

What's the use of owning a Pit Bull if it won't try to take your balls off someday? nothing to brag to your buddies about "Oh, he's just a pussy, hell, my kids even pull his scrot an' he jes takes it"

Won't get any free beers that way...

People raise their dogs to be mean. People WANT mean dogs, and when they want a mean dog, they usually want a Pit Bull. Not much market for mean Shi-Tzu's, I think...Where they fuck up is in thinking that a dog they've spent so much effort on making mean won't turn on them or the kids.

And you have to excuse us DU'ers. a lot of us thing firearms jump up and kill people all by themselves, too.

[Jack_Dawson]

4. Agree with Dispatcher

Duhhhh...we have a pit bull?

[DrWeird]

5. when will the 9-11 dispatcher be put down?

What a disgusting human being.

[Zuni]

8. why was she so concerned about the breed of dog?

I think the address, damage to the child etc is more relevant

[DrWeird]

9. I'd assume because...

she's an ignorant bitch who's more concerned with her own self righteousness than a child that could be bleeding to death.

[Zuni]

6. absolutely bizarre

their dog was attcking the child and they were arguing over what kind of dog it is?
Would it matter if it was a Rottweiler, German Sheperd, Doberman or a Pit Bull
I think it is irrelevant

[johnnie]

7. I think they want to know what they are dealing with

That would be my guess.

[elehhhhna]

34. yep. Cops & EMT's want to look out for it.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

10. Who the hell is the 911 dispatcher to judge?

And what the hell does she know about the dog anyway? People want to cling to this muth that all pit bulls are mean, dangerous dogs when they are just like any other dog. They have the capability to be good or bad.

What the hell is next? Rape victims calling for help to hear "What? He got in through an open window?? Why did you have the window open, stupid???

[DrWeird]

11. What were you wearing?

A mini skirt? Stupid tramp.

[WI_DEM]

14. dispatcher should have waited until she hung up to call her stupid.

[bobbobbins]

15. was she calling them stupid because they had a pit bull...

or because she didn't know what kind of dog she owned?

[southpaw]

16. Check this out...

http://www.deviantart.com/view/11454716/

I'm a cat person, but this flash presentation is quite compelling.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

19. Thank you for posting this.

It brought me to tears.

It's amazing how willing people are to swallow the "mean pit bull" story hook, line, and sinker.

[redqueen]

26. Why won't people listen?! ALL PIT BULL HATERS *PLEASE* WATCH!

:argh:

Thank you for posting this.

:cry:

[MadHound]

28. Thanks for posting that,

As a pit owner, I truly appreciate it. It has always amazed me that our society has to have a "killer dog" to beat up on. When I was a child, during the sixties, it was German Shepards(and I was raised with two loving shepards), in the seventies, it was Dobermans, in the eighties it was pits, and now being joined by Rottweilers.

The focus is always on the dog, overlooking completely the owner of that dog, and how that owner raised it. A dog is a dog is a dog, and no matter the breed, if you abuse the dog, mistreat it and beat it, you're going to raise a dog that bites. If you raise a dog firmly and lovingly, no matter the breed, it will turn out to be a loving, gentle dog who is truly a joy to be around.

My quetion is which breed is going to be the next "killer dog"?

[johnnie]

30. "My quetion is which breed is going to be the next "killer dog"?"

A Shih Tzu. :shrug:

[MadHound]

35. LOL, that was good!

My aunt and uncle had one of those dust mops, and I hated that thing. They didn't get him fixed, because they were going to breed him(never did), so since I always bunked on the floor, the little shit would wake me up in the middle of the night by humping my foot.

[elehhhhna]

37. Some interesting dog-bite info, here:

http://www.dogexpert.com/HomePage/DogBiteStatistics.html

[SemiCharmedQuark]

38. The guys's source is an 87' sports illustrated

which says that most pit bulls are not vicious, and those that are are vicious because of their human owners.

[Swede]

41. That's what I would say.

A big dog and a small child is playing with fire. Stupid people.

[flvegan]

42. That's rediculous.

They should be supervised, but some of the BEST dogs to have around children are big. Newfoundlands, Great Danes, Mastiffs...hell, some labs can get to 100 pounds.

[Swede]

44. So when she called how did the kid get mauled?

Oh,no supervision. Stupid people.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

45. Then why was she bothering to make that comment instead of letting the

woman go tend to her child? Why even ask what breed? The paramedics know they have to be careful since it is mauling the kid.

[Swede]

46. She probably had lots of experience with pit bulls mauling kids.

She is a 911 operator.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

47. And so we're back to the myth of the evil evil pitbull.

It's not true.

[flvegan]

48. You pinned the error on the size of the dog, remember?

I wasn't there (nor were you) when it happened, so we won't know the level of supervision, will we?

[auburngrad82]

51. The fact is Pit Bulls and Rottweilers have the tendency to do great harm

They can be and frequently are very sweet animals. The way they are treated has a lot to do with their personalities but they also have a very powerful bite and due to past breeding they can sometimes be unstable. You should never, never, never leave a kid unsupervised with one of these dogs.

That being said, I have 5 dogs (no pits or rotties) and they all can do serious damage. Animal expert Patricia McDonnell says it's like having a pet with a mouth full of carpet knives. I've had some very deep bites but they were all accidents (breaking up "disputes" over bones etc). Most dogs let go when they bite. The problem with pits is they don't let go. They grab hold and shake.

I personally wouldn't have a pit but there's no reason a responsible pet owner couldn't have a great big loving baby if they train it properly and treat it with respect. AND supervise the dog and the kids at all times.

[MsAnthropy]

52. I don't blame the 911 operator

The idiot woman was tying up the line while she was trying to find out what kind of dog she owned. I consider that the height of stupidity. Someone else with an emergency might have been trying to get through in the time it took her to find out something any moran would know.

[NorthernSpy]

54. pitbull apologists are naive, reckless, and just plain wrong

There's more than enough evidence to justify concluding that pitbulls are extremely prone to unpredictable violent behavior, and therefore do NOT make good pets.

And yet the pitbull apologists still try to get us to believe otherwise. Unfortunately, they do succeed in convincing some people to make a pitbull part of the family. The ultimate result of this pro-pit advocacy is that pets and people -- especially young children -- get mauled and killed.

And whenever the inevitable happens, the dangerous-dog apologists recite their favorite mantra: it's not the dog, it's the owner...

But I say that it's a HUGE mistake to go through life believing that you can love absolutely anything into harmlessness. Some things -- king cobras, Siberian tigers, human psychopaths, and certain dog breeds -- are inherently dangerous. And they will remain dangerous, no matter how cruelly or how sweetly we decide to handle them.

Are there bad owners? Absolutely. Does the way the dog was raised affect its temperament? Sure. But even pits who were brought up gently have been known to attack and kill when they got the chance.

Sometimes, it really is the dog.






(fixed typo)

[SemiCharmedQuark]

61. Ok, so where is this evidence then?

Where? Pitbulls aren't the number one source of dog bites. And a Siberian tiger is not a domesticated animal. Dogs have been domesticated for 10,000 years.

Show me a study that says Pitbulls cause the most bites against people. Do you know what the two top dogs for REPORTED dog bites are? German Shepherds and Chow Chows. ANd yet if that woman had had a chow, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Thirty different breeds of dogs have had a fatal attack attributed to them since 1975. I bet you can't name them all. In fact, I bet you wouldn't guess that they included the pomeranian (a four pound dog mauled a baby in 2000) and a jack russell terrier (you know, like wishbone-this was in 2002 and it was a toddler).

Further, "dog bite statistics" are dubious at best. Vets, Vet assistants, Vet Techs, Groomers, Kennel aids will tell you that bites that are not a very serious injury will go unpreported. If ALL bites were counted, it would be terriers that would be at the top of the biting list, not Pits.

Pits are blamed because people often report those types of bites. But dogs that are also blamed would include the great dane "huskies" (even though that is a class, not a breed) and several other dogs you see as family pets. These are all big, powerful dogs. They don't bite any more often than regular dogs, they just bite harder.

So if you want to make the assertion that you are making, PROVE it. You won't be able to. Because there is not a SHRED of evidence that what you say is true.