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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:08 AM Original message |
Thoughts on white men |
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rawtribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
1. Frank Zappa said it best..... |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Hater! |
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rawtribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Yes |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I'm a human - that's it |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:20 AM Response to Original message |
5. Stop yer bitching and enjoy your power and privilege! |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Privilege? |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. In case you hadn't noticed, all white males are privileged. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 08:09 AM Response to Reply #10 |
28. Here's what privilege means: |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 10:39 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Yes, but does that give every who is not a white man the right |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 10:40 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. exactly Carlos |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 10:42 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. To bash all white men? No. But that is not what the people on that |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 10:52 AM Response to Reply #31 |
39. I just logged on and haven't seen the original thread |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 10:55 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Really? A common practice in our society? |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:06 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Just pay attention to all the TV commercials that depict white men |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:15 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Are you saying there are no dumb ass white men? I see men of all types... |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:36 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. I'm Hispanic and when I hang out with my Hispanic friends |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:45 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. But they are not stereotypes of "white men" in general... they are |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:54 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. But there are stereotypes of white men and we just accept them as funny |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. It has turned white woman into a charicature too... How they are |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Yeah but we don't openly make jokes about those stereo types |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Yes we most certainly do. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 03:28 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Funny, I've never seen it here. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 03:31 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. I saw "More black men are criminals since more black men are in prison" |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Sorry MI I just can't buy that |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. And I'm sorry HH, but I just can't buy that. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 03:47 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. I don't think it's a bias so much as it accepted |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 04:55 PM Response to Reply #86 |
94. I wouldn't go so far as to cry "racism" |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 04:45 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. Since you're referencing *MY* comment, I'll correct you. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 05:09 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. Lovely... thanks for saving me the trouble of finding it... |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 05:32 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. No, you didn't. You completely distorted what I said. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 05:40 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. LOL... Apparently I think no black person has ever committed a crime... |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 05:51 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. I never said "just a little bit" Again you're implying, implying, implying |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. I hate word games too... But words are used to imply things... |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 09:16 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. Well, I don't have a problem with that. |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 03:24 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. We don't? |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 03:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
88. Someone was complaining about |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 05:44 PM Response to Reply #88 |
100. Id like to point out that commercials are targeted at white males 18-49 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 12:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
71. Um, most of those are put on BY white men. |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:10 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. it happens all over DU; especially in GD. i'm not one to get involved in |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 12:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
72. Well, when people stop bitching about Affirmative Action |
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GOPFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
74. From a white man |
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fit4life (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
92. A "Humorous Vein" |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 05:38 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. That is a completely different example. |
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Sparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Wow! Very well put! |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:18 AM Response to Reply #28 |
52. Well put... as I recognize my privilege as a white woman... |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:45 AM Response to Reply #52 |
64. but there's also a limit to which you can take this whole "privelege" |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 12:25 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. I'm not defending any bashing of white males, or any other group. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 01:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
76. We've been through this adi infinitum, and I still disagree. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Exaclty - wealth and connections are the real issue. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #76 |
101. No, that is not my logic. Privilege does not have to do with income. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 06:05 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Of course it's not your logic, you eschew logic entirely. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 06:14 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. You are privileged because nobody will ever do that to you. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 06:22 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Look, we're going around in circles here. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 06:29 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Yep, definitely. Take Care. |
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Tom Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
7. I really no longer give a shit anymore... |
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progmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 10:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
32. Hey Tom Kitten! Haven't seen you around! |
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elperromagico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:23 AM Response to Original message |
8. Unfortunately, HEyHEY, we are members of a race |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:24 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Very true |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:29 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. You th' man, HeyHey.... er.... I mean.... you know... well said and all |
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Tom Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. very Biblical that is... |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:30 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Great picture, btw, Tom Kitten. I like. |
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Tom Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 03:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. thank you |
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elperromagico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:46 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. No one ever said racism is a sensible mindset. |
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Tom Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 03:09 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. no, but it always seems... |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. No we are individuals. |
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elperromagico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:48 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Fight ignorance, then. |
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Tom Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. I couldn't say it better... |
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T Town Jake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
14. Marxian doctrine asserts... |
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BikeWriter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
16. Kumbaya, my Lord, Kumbaya! |
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BikeWriter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
17. Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya (Here's all of it) |
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DulceDecorum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
18. Y'all CHILL. This is not the USS Kittyhawk. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
19. I hear what you're saying HEyHEy |
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drumwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 03:24 AM Response to Original message |
25. HEy there HEyHEY |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 05:30 AM Response to Original message |
26. It could be worse |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
27. since i don't identify myself thru my race or gender wasn't offended |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 03:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
87. Not in their eyes - in their eyes... |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
33. Regardless of history and privilage |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. To ask for an acknowlegement is not to bash. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 10:52 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Well put, and that's how I read it. Besides the fact that the threads |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
34. where's this thread you speak of? |
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Sparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:00 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. LOL ! Here.... |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:20 AM Response to Reply #42 |
54. I THOUGHT that was the thread... how silly... there was no bashing there. |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
36. I'd like to see the exact comments of which you speak... |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
41. You white men have given me much grief. |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:12 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. i don't remember giving you grief sarah |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:41 AM Response to Reply #48 |
60. I haven't given you the opportunity yet. |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #60 |
67. touche |
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kerrywins (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
43. Liberals will always "hate" white men |
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jswordy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
45. I still wuv you, HEyHEY! |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
47. As a white man, I must say, |
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kerrywins (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:15 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. they say white men don't have rhythm... |
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DelawareValleyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:21 AM Response to Reply #49 |
55. "Look, there's Trafalgar Square! There's Piccadilly Circus! |
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kerrywins (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:25 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. say what you will, |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:38 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. EEEEEWWWWWW!!! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
50. I didn't see it and don't want to. |
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kerrywins (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:19 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Very well said!!! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:43 AM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Thank you! |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:37 AM Response to Reply #50 |
58. lol, yep |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:44 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Same situation, different conflict. |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Actually, I think we just love power and privilege |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:46 AM Response to Reply #50 |
65. If you didn't see it, how can it piss you off? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. You're right. |
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DrGonzoLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 12:07 PM Response to Reply #50 |
70. Yep |
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hollywood926 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
75. I kicked the other thread for those who hadn't seen it. eom |
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d_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
89. Kill whitey! |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
90. I don't hate you. I hate the track record of white men. Read Malcolm X's |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 04:59 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. *SOME* white men have the power. |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 10:24 PM Response to Reply #95 |
110. separate "yourself" from "white men" and you're there |
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Bok_Tukalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
91. The only color that matters is green |
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Mike Niendorff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-05 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
106. I agree, and I think it's actually an important point. |
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