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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:11 PM
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(PHOTO) The BIG question about Prince Charles...

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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:12 PM
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1. LOVE
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:19 PM
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9. Then why didn't he just marry Camilla instead of Diana in the first place?
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OneMoreDemocrat Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:22 PM
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12. Probably because the prevailing mindset was much like yours...
that he should marry the swan and not the ugly duckling, even if he felt differently.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:31 PM
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23. But he's the Prince of Wales fer chrissakes, he can marry who he wants to
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:29 AM
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54. Well, no, I think precisely because he IS the Prince Of Wales
he couldn't necessarily marry whomever he wanted to.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:25 PM
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16. He wasn't permitted to
different rules apply to Royals (even though many people worldwide are forced into marriages they don't want). He told the Queen that he was in love with Camilla before he married Diana-but he was expected to follow through with the sham marriage anyway.

Love is blind-so who are we to be so shallow as to put more value on one human being than another simply because one is young and beautiful, and the other is not?
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:28 AM
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52. What kind of society does not allow you to marry who you love? Oh yeah,
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 12:28 AM by bob_weaver
ours too if you're gay/lesbian
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Ruffhowse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:49 PM
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32. Wasn't she married at the time to someone else?
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:33 PM
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51. EXACTLY n/t
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:29 AM
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53. Then why didn't Camilla divorce & marry Charles? Diana would be alive now!
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RadicalMom Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:22 AM
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65. Not when they met and supposedly first fell in love. Married later.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:13 PM
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2. Y'know ... those almost look like reversed 'before' and 'after' pics ...
Before the Extreme Makeover (Camilla) and After (Diana) ...


:shrug:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:13 PM
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3. ROTFL
The deserve each other. The good news is they won't have children.
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 08:19 PM
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45. CAMILLA does look like a horsey face trollop!!
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:14 PM
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4. Is the implication
that men base their happiness solely on the appearance of their spouse? I disagree.

And I don't think Ms. Bowles is a bad-looking woman by any stretch.
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:14 PM
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5. I REALLY don't want come off sounding
like an utter pig, BUT the more attractive women try less in bed. The middle of the road are best. They really put themselves into it. The mindset seems to be, "I might not be a supermodel, but will a supermodel do THIS ?"
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:24 PM
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15. "but will a supermodel do THIS ?"
LMFAO..... funniest thing I've heard all day!

And from what I hear, some of the supermodels do THAT.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:31 PM
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24. Most supermodels are hopelessly insecure
a dear friend of mine is a former supermodel. From all the stories she's told me, most of her fellow models are so full of cocaine, diet pills and anti-depressants that the vapid dead look you see on their faces requires little acting. Most would rather eat or sleep than be with a man. Hard to blame them when their only sense of value is in being an image.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:11 PM
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36. Your cats are beautiful, especially the first one! nt
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 03:59 AM
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63. And most are freakishly unappealing
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 04:00 AM by Vektor
in real life. While the make-up, hair, cameras, and lights can work wonders on film, (and airbrushing) in many cases, a pallid, emaciated, sleepless, heavily caffeinated girl who smokes constantly and weighs 100 pounds at 6' tall is NOT always a pleasant thing to see. In fact, a large percentage of them are ghastly. Supermodels are selected for being freakishly tall, thin, gaunt, and angular - and while that transforms well in advertising, in person, it doesn't.

I have seen teen-aged girls so doped up on heroin that they literally have to be propped up for a shoot, then taken to the hospital, since getting the shot comes first. I've also witnessed girls inducing vomiting right before being photographed to make their stomachs look flatter.

Fasting for days before a runway show, and subsisting on Marlboro Reds and Diet Coke only keeps you "pretty" for so long.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:06 AM
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73. One summer in Tokyo, I lived in a rooming house whose residents
included American models who were cashing in on the lucrative assignments that were available there.

One of them, a tall, gaunt young woman who was not particularly good-looking, showed us her portfolio. The photographers could make her look like Grace Kelly, which she most assuredly did not look like in real life.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:21 PM
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83. Right -
Mostly they are tall and gaunt, and have very generic boxy features that have a characterless symmetry about them that can be made up in any way the designers want - like a blank canvass. Don't get me wrong - there are a few pretty ones, but they'd look a lot nicer if they were healthier.

It's a hard living.
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OneMoreDemocrat Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:41 PM
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28. That's how they become Supermodels........
by doing 'THAT' over and over again.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:29 PM
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39. Interesting theory
False, but interesting.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 08:12 PM
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43. Interesting indeed...
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 10:23 AM
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69. Stereotype much?
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 10:24 AM by grace0418
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:20 PM
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82. it's like the old, poor taste joke +++POOR TASTE AND SEXISM ALERT***
what do a moped and a fat girl have in common? they're both fun to ride until your friends see you one them...

there's a grain of truth in it...
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OneMoreDemocrat Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:15 PM
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6. Perhaps he liked the 2nd. one better..........
Just because Princess Diana was more attractive, it doesn't necessarily follow that she and the Prince were better suited for one another.

Marriage is (supposed to be) for life, and marrying based on your partners attractiveness is a pretty shallow reason.
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:16 PM
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7. Terrific point! Hahaha!
omg teh funnay, Diana's prettier than Camilla... Chuck must be teh ghey...

I know you were probably just making a silly joke :-) but this is kinda offensive to women, gay people, and straight men who value the women they marry for something other than what other men think of their looks all at the same time. I doubt sincerely that you have any of those kinds of attitudes, that's not what I'm saying, but did you think of that at all before you posted your joke?
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:30 PM
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21. Well my real question is, why didn't he marry Camilla in the first place?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:04 PM
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34. Scuttlebutt is....
He asked her first (before she was married) and she didn't want anything to do with the hoopla. Then she married and divorced and a divorcee was unacceptable for the Royals. So he got Diana, who was really nothing more than a brood mare to him. Camilla was always his heart's desire.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:30 AM
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55. He should have bucked them and married Camilla. Diana would be alive now!
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:32 AM
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56. Please tell me you aren't blaming him for Diana's death
simply because he didn't marry Camilla decades ago.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:34 AM
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58. I'm blaming Diana's celebrity for Diana's death, and she would never have
had that celebrity if she hadn't married him, so indirectly, yes, he was a contributing factor in her death. He brought her into the world of the rich and famous and all the attendant risks
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:38 AM
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60. It's hardly his *fault* that Diana died.
She may have suffered quite a bit of heartache and disappointment at his hands, but I'd hardly blame him for what happened to her.

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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:01 AM
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67. If Prince Charles had not married Diana...NO ONE would know WHO
Lady Diana was...she'd be just another upper crust Britisher...her fame came because of Prince Charles.
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:32 AM
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57. I heard that he wasn't ready to settle down
He was in the navy at the time. He was deployed for awhile. She got married to someone else. (Didn't think Chuck was going to come up to the mark.)

He then married Diana - he needed to get married. Rest is history.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:16 PM
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8. Because the first one produced the children he needed
and was no longer necessary.

And he apparently loves Bowles, whereas he just used Diana.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:25 PM
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17. Camilla
is the ONLY TRUE FRIEND he's ever had. She KNOWS the system in which they are both entrenched. She'll NEVER betray him. Her great-great gramma was his great grandpa's mistress. I wish them both the best and wish (because of my secret childhood love for Charles) that they just be left alone.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:00 PM
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47. I see. And so it was okay to deceive Diana into a marriage
knowing he needed to produce offspring?

If anybody was 'betrayed' in all of this, it was Diana. Chuck and Camilla were playing around way before the engagement and wedding and never stopped. THAT'S betrayal.

She was 19 years old! He was 33 and Camilla was 35! Just who exactly do you think was duped?
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:05 PM
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49. yes Charles and Camilla are two deceitful adulterers who broke up
2 marriages and humiliated their spouses and children. They should not be applauded or rewarded in any way.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 10:50 AM
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71. I agree totally.
And they deserve each other.
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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:44 PM
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29. exactly...Camilla couldn't provide him offspring...
I believe he used Diana also...I don't care for the man, Camilla can have him.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:06 PM
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50. Camilla has 2 children
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:20 PM
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10. Well, HE is more evenly matched, look-wise, with Camilla.
"Camilla, Bride of Chucky!"

(props to Keith Olberman on that quote)

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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:21 PM
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11. Diana was too good for him.
We miss you Diana! :cry:
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:22 PM
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13. He looks better against Cam's looks/ Ego too fragile for Di's beauty
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:22 PM
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14. Diana is more beautiful INSIDE and OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! x 1 Million
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:27 PM
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18. He married Diana because she was a verifiable virgin
At the time, and I think still, the heir to the throne must marry a virgin so there is no question about the legitimacy of his heirs.

As I recall, he never wanted Diana. She was convenient and she was a virgin. Therefore she was acceptable to the royals to produce heirs.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:28 PM
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19. Its none of anyone's business but his own
who fucking gives a shit anyway? I can't believe this is being talked about here.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:29 PM
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20. A bit superficial here aren't we?
Just because Camilla is slightly less good-looking than Diana doesn't mean that he can't love her more. Apparently she's a lot more fun to be with.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:30 PM
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22. Diana was a shallow narcissist , and she wasn't that good-looking, either.
Poor bastard only married her in the first place because Mummy and Daddy wanted him to get hitched to a "suitable young woman of breeding" and produce an heir...can't really say I blame him, personally.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:05 PM
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35. Diana was a 19-year-old kid
when she got roped into this sham marriage. Do you think it was fair to her to be married to a man who wasn't in love with her, but with someone else? I think his indifference to her must have really hurt her a lot, and she may have turned to clothing and fashion as a substitute for the love she wasn't ever going to get. I think she's one of the victims.

Also, Camilla, even though she supposedly loved Charlie, turned around and married Andrew and had two kids with him. Then she dumped him for Charlie. Why did she ever marry him in the first place if she didn't love him? Seems like she was a "user."

I think Cammie and Charlie are *ssh*les. They trampled all over the lives and feelings of Diana, Andrew, and all of their kids. None of these people deserved this treatment. Thank heaven C & C are getting married. Hopefully they won't go wreck anyone else's lives.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:27 PM
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38. and Charles wasn't a narcissitic, not good looking pig
your point?
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:32 PM
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25. Why does it matter? If they love each other then so what?
Do you really think that looks alone should determine compatibility?
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:35 PM
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26. Why did John Lennon marry Yoko Ono?
Different strokes, I guess...besides Diana was a neurotic nutcase...
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:39 PM
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27. Because no self-respecting gay man would marry him.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:47 PM
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31. I believe that Prince Charles will never be King, by this Marriage
to Camilla, may prove this to be so. Remember King Edward married the American Divorcee' and had to step down?

It is either this or, having already heirs to the thone, he could be allowed to marry this woman...Not sure about their rules.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:50 PM
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42. He still may be King but she won't be Queen.
That's what they worked out. She gets HRH but when he's King she'll just be a Princess.
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smedwed Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:01 AM
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64. Princes consort
I think prince's consorts the official title.
She might be Duchess of Cornwell as well when they
marry.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:46 PM
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30. Answer: He did what the Queen wanted him to. And as usual, it
didn't work out.

Soooooo.....out with the old, in with the new (or is that vice versa?).

I think it's GREAT that Charles married someone who is not a babe and is older than he is. Only a mature man with plenty of his own self esteem would do that. (As in the cases of Paul McCartney.....John Lennon....all men who could have virtually any woman in the world they wanted.)
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:59 PM
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33. Look, these people live in a fantasy world.
They are incredibly rich (for doing nothing worthwhile), privileged, fawned over, grovelled to, made to feel important here and listened to as if they had something intelligent to say. They're an anachronism and a sign that this country is never going to leave its feudal past behind. He had to find a young, pretty and, preferably, brainless woman to bear him pretty, white and probably brainless children. Preferably boys. So they can keep this ridiculous fantasy going for the next generation. Diana's father was so thrilled that this halfwit was going to marry his daughter that he even went on TV and pointed out proudly that she was a virgin. The halfwit was fucking this old tart before they even found Diana to play her part. The only flaw in their plans was that Diana turned out to be smarter, more human/humane and more popular than the lot of them. Now she's conveniently dead and they can all go back to doing what they do best, which is revelling in their greedy, useless little fantasy lives.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:35 PM
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40. Nothing blurred about your view
dead accurate. Fuggs the Royals but the lead post was damn funny.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:15 PM
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37. Man alive, people can be so mean!
I don't have anything against Di, but maybe she just wasn't a good match. And having never met Camilla, I can't say maybe she's a lovely person and an excellent match for Charles. Yes Diana was beautiful, but there's also a quite an age difference between the two women in the pictures shown.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:37 PM
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41. Diana had a beautiful soul
she "cared".
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 08:17 PM
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44. Camilla "cares" for Charles.
She always has. She is his peer, his only true friend and KNOWS her place in the system. Their forebears had a similar connexion. May they live together in peace and simply fade from the headlines.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 08:25 PM
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46. I believe one of her ancestors was another Windsor royal's mistress
yes, peers. indeed.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:36 AM
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59. Her great grandmother was mistress of Charles' great-great grandfather
n/t
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 10:19 AM
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68. It's still incredibly mean-spirited and shallow
All I'm saying is that, unless one knows Charles, Diana and Camilla personally, it's impossible to guess anyone chose anyone. And basing it on looks is not only ridiculous, it's just plain mean. Especially the posters who starting making up horrible nicknames for her just because she's not their idea of attractive.

It's one thing to call Condoleeza, or BushCo names because their actions and their lies make them ugly regardless of their looks. But unless I've missed the news stories, what horrible crimes has Camilla perpetrated against humanity that would qualify her for such bile?
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 10:45 AM
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70. Screwing around with another woman's husband
right from Day One of the marriage is kind of nasty in my book. Marrying a man she probably didn't care about, screwing around behind her own husband's back, then dumping him. Ok, not horrible crimes against humanity, perhaps, but Camilla is definitely not someone I'd invite to dinner at my house. She's disgusting.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:02 AM
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72. Yeah I guess, but like I said with Clinton,
that's nobody's business but the people involved. They all could be complete jerks, who knows?
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 03:58 PM
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76. it was all over the news, first person interviews and on tapes
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 04:13 PM by barb162
If you are young and innocent, love your husband, are faithful to your husband and pregnant, are you going to be just a bit upset that you strongly suspect he is screwing a married woman constantly and long term behind your back? That he is lying to you about it constantly ? That he is using you as a breed cow? I watched his interview and he admitted this affair started before he was married and he never quit it while he was married. I don't have to "know" Charles on a personal basis to decide this guy is a true slug any more than I have to listen to Bush talking for 5 seconds on gay marriage that he's anti-gay rights.

Camilla is the poster girl for infidelity and deceit to her own husband and family and partly responsible for breaking up the marriage of another couple. Charles is on the same level as Camilla. These two people deserve no titles and no rewards for their long term despicable and immoral behavior. What is there to admire or respect about these people...their long term behavior while they were married to others shows they are selfish and contemptible. They deserve each other, they are two of a kind.

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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:05 PM
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48. Well if we're going on looks alone....
Then why why WHY in the hell does someone who looks like Prince Charles have the opportunity to *pick* between Princess Di and Camilla??

Camilla may not be as elegant as Di, but if we're going on looks alone, then the two women should have ditched dumbo and run off with each other.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:00 PM
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78. LOL
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:03 AM
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61. No, no, no -- the real question is: WHO CARES?
I mean, we are talking about Prince Charle de Wales here, a man who has singlehandedly reinvented the concept of irrelevancy for the 21st Century in a way that gives it startling new depth and meaning.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 03:36 AM
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62. I thought you were going to ask
Where he got that strange jacket with the red collar tabs and the red cuffs or whatever. Did he borrow it from some hotel doorman?
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RadicalMom Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:35 AM
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66. This is all about Charles needing to marry within his species-
one lizzard to another. You don't have to believe the David Ickes book to appreciate the possibilities. Which also detail a theory of her murder by the lizzard family she married into. Good stuff, fact or fiction.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:12 AM
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74. I wonder about the relative ages of the people who are Diana partisans
versus Camilla partisans.

I attend a water aerobics class with a group of women who are almost all over 50 (the youngest is in her forties).

Their reaction was universally, "That's who he should have married in the first place."

I wonder if the defenders of Diana are younger and identifying with her as a twenty-year-old who married into a tough environment.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 03:59 PM
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77. I'm almost 53
and I feel sorry for what happened to Diana.
Yes, Cammie and Charlie should have married each other in the first place.
But neither of them had any right to wreck the lives of Diana, Andrew, and the 4 kids who've had to grow up with all the divorce and adultery issues.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:06 PM
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79. You know, interesting point. I think he should have married
Camilla but I also think once he married Diana, that's it, stay away from Camilla. The fact he had the long term affair behind his wife's back is so evil. Lying to your wife when she is pregnant and things like that, bedding down another woman for the whole term of a marriage, oh my god.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:19 AM
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75. What a ridiculously offensive question
I have absolutely no interest in the british royal family and their shenanigans but the assumption that people who are not beautiful are somehow unworthy of love is really shitty. As to why he didn't marry her instead, who the hell knows or cares? Probably because she was married and the british public and his dear old mum would have thrown a fit.

Can we please stop equating a person's looks with their value?
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:49 PM
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80. Because
he is tired of wishing to be her tampon.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:15 PM
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81. I'm not sure, but lets face facts
Elton John would never be writting songs about Camilla...

RL
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