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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:16 AM
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Wouldn't it be great if Gannon was the catalyst that brought down Bush?
That cocky asshole---I had never heard of him before he asked that stupid, unprofessional question.
Now we find out that the White House gave a position to a fake reporter, with a fake news source, unsing a fake name is not only given classified CIA information, but is the ringleader of some bizarre homosexual porno ring and escort service.

It would be so funny if this nutsack caused a special prosecutor to be appointed, which in turn sets off a wider investigation, which then causes Bush and Co to become pariahs, leading to impeachment proceedings.

:toast:

This might be one of the more bizarre WH scandals ever

:wtf:
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huellewig Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:23 AM
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1. Bush can not be hurt..
He hates gay folks. That is all that is needed. That is the new America.. Wedge.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:31 AM
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2. Sorry, no Special Prosecutors anymore.
Now you know why Starr did what he did, so Bush and his fellow Nazis can be above the law and get away with it!
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:49 AM
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3. If an illegal war...
... wasn't enough to do the Bushies in, small fry like Gannon (or Guckert or whoever the hell he is) certainly won't bring them down.

As for impeachment, as with all other Bush issues, it won't happen. Not with the Republicans in firm control of the House and Senate. It won't.

Thanks to a lot of very ignorant and ideological voters, not to mention a rollover press, we're stuck with the Bushies for four more years.

The sad reality is that Bush could launch nuclear missiles at half the world tomorrow, and 50.6% of Americans would cheer him on.

It's going to take a lot more than Jeff Gannon, or J.D. Guckert to undo these tramps in the White House. They've, so far, survived two jiggered elections, the Valerie Plame affair, lies about Iraq's WMDs and its purported associations with al-Qaeda, 9/11, "Mission Accomplished," Halliburton contract excesses, horrible deficits, unilateral treaty abrogations and only they know what else. Calling Reagan the "Teflon President" is an insult to Teflon, compared to George W. Bush.

I know, I know, it sounds like defeatism, but that's the reality right now. This bunch ought to be collectively horse-whipped and run out of town tied to a rail, but it isn't going to happen. Things are going to have to get a lot worse before they can get better. The ordinary voter will have to suffer mightily and make a direct connection between their suffering and George W. Bush before they'll change their minds about Democrats in 2006 and 2008.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 05:24 AM
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7. First of all, severa; congressmen/senators have already asked one be
appointed.

Secondly, although Iraq may have been a violation of International law, Valerie Plame's outing and sharing of CIA classified info with reporters is a direct violation of US law. Presidents can't be impeached in the Hague, but they can for breaking the law (although with this rubber stamp congress....)

Most importantly, the American public has grown weary of Bush---there is always that 30% that will back him even if he is caught molesting sheep in the Oval Office, but his poll numbers are always in the 40s, percent wise.
The majority of Americans are unhappy about Iraq as well.

The media is harder---with the constant shills on FOX and lazy reporting in most other major venues it is hard for the average news consumer to grasp what Bush is really up to.

I do not think every non-Bushbot non-wingnut who voted for Bush is ignorant...misinformed is a better word. The media spin cycle was in high gear since 9/11 and a lot of people have been criminally misled

Not to mention a massive smear campaign against Senator Kerry undermined him at the polls---for example, before SBVT he was leading in most polls, but after the smearing started, the damage was done

I think you are being defeatist---We are better off than the GOP in 1964. Goldwater did not even get 40% of the popular vote (biggest landslide if 20th century), while Kerry got 49%

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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:01 AM
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10. There's a difference between being...
... a defeatist and a realist. I simply described the situation as it is of now, not as I might wish it. The key element, as I mentioned, is the connections voters will make between what the Republicans do in Congress and the White House and their own misery. Until that happens, the situation will not change. Depending on Congress to impeach Bush is absurd, given the current political situation.

Cheers.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:24 AM
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12. about Congress--you are right
a rubber stamp congress like is currently seated is not likely to defy their overlords...unless massive pressure is brought to bear
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:54 AM
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4. Is that part about being a ringleader new info?
I know he has some domain names that sound like gay/military porn sites but what you're saying is more than that.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 05:22 AM
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6. Here's a great clip that explains what is known about this "journalist."
Amazingly, this appeared on CNN's "Newsnight with Aaron Brown," and the guests were two liberals, who were allowed to speak without interruption, and there was no token RW guest, to give the opposing point of view, or have the last word. Quite a departure from Thursday's earlier Wolf Blitzer interview, with the blogger, himself, who was allowed to tell his sad story of harassment, without question or challenge. I always suspected old Aaron was a closet liberal, LOL!:D

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/02/10.html#a1562
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 05:09 AM
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5. Here's a petition demanding the appointment of a Special Prosecutor
to investigate the "journalist," using the pseudonym "Jeff Gannon," from http://blog.democrats.com . It's being directed to Bush*, Gonzales, Congress and the media. Feel free to sign and pass it on!

http://blog.democrats.com/gannon
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 05:25 AM
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8. Thanks, Rhiannon
That is a very pretty name, BTW

:hi:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:21 AM
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11. Thanks so much, Zuni!
I "ring like a bell through the night," LOL!:D

And I agree with your previous analysis. Serious law-breaking has gone on with this case. That an internet blogger, with no press credentials, could get into White House daily press briefings, using a pseudonym, no less, is a major security scandal, let alone his unbelievable access to classified documents, and ties to gay porn, no less! Congress just cannot overlook this, and I can't imagine that anyone, of any stripe, would want to. It's a serious breach of their authority, since they refused to give him press credentials, yet he managed to gain access to the White House, which requires a much higher level of security. There is just no way to "spin" this one!:crazy:

Great post! Keep 'em coming!:D

Rhiannon :hi:
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:27 AM
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14. Great use of smileys
I really like it when people use the smileys :) to their advantage. It makes posts more fun to look at. :party:

:loveya:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 08:46 AM
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21. Thank you, I feel like my posts are like a book without pictures
Whenever I post without them. But I sometimes wonder if people think that I over use them. So I really appreciate the compliment.
:pals:

The only place I don't use them is in I/P, where I used to be a regular. The subject matter is just too deadly serious and nobody else there uses them either. I did use them on one post, once, when it seemed appropriate, I don't remember the reason. But I did make the comment that I felt self conscious about it, like going to a funeral in a red dress.
:evilgrin:
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:01 AM
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9. If only Bill Clinton could have shrugged his shoulders and said....
..."So what".
"It was oral sex with an intern....we're not going to discuss it".
Or:
"We'll look into it, but I don't think we'll ever find out if it happened".
Or:
"We're at war in Kosovo....Why do you hate America"?
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:24 AM
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13. Remember the dark days of "Travelgate?!"
Now there was a scandal that makes this one look almost light-hearted!:scared:
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:29 AM
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15. Don't remind me...
I'll get nightmares. I'm in therapy because of Whitewater :grr:. The doctor says I'll be alright one day :crazy:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 08:38 AM
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20. Actually, I stole that sentiment from Jon Stewart!
When Bill Clinton was the guest, Jon asked him if, with all the scandal that's going on now, he ever stops and thinks, "Travelgate?!!!" LOL!:D

Clinton, of course, took the question entirely seriously and gave him a very thoughtful and measured answer.:-)

As for me, I still need anger management whenever I think of how stingy and Scrooge-like Clinton was, refusing to spend that record surplus!:mad:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:36 AM
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16. Glad to see you start a thread in the lounge... got the pic for it:
:D

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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:38 AM
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17. Do you work for Hallmark?
I could have sworn I saw a card just like that! :evilgrin:
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 07:12 AM
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18. I do not think the Fundy's see it that way.
They are into faith and he can do no wrong. Reason does not come into it with his backers. You know God put all those old bones around just to test us.We really are only 7000 old and the end is near.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 07:17 AM
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19. I would like to think that Abu Ghraib would be enough to unseat him
but it wasnt, just routine torture so ne'er mind
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hornblast Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:55 PM
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22. I thought...
I was sure sure Enron would do him in. Even in the light of 9/11. His connections to Kenny Boy seemed to obvious and odious to overlook... but no...
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