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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 08:09 PM
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I'll buy you a Star if you promise to post in the PNAC/Neocon group
Edited on Sun Feb-13-05 08:09 PM by frictionlessO
Sound like a deal???
I expect you to be at least somewhat active over there.
You need to have at least 200 posts and have been here at DU for over 6 weeks.

Reply to this thread on what you think about PNAC and Neocons in this thread. The most concise, thoughtful, and emotive reply will win by consensus. (this should be fun!!!)

Ill be doing this at least 2 more times this week, so if you dont win tonight, watch for a similar thread in a day or two.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 08:12 PM
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1. Watch out - the donation police will get you for this one.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 08:19 PM
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2. HEYYYYY!!!!!!!!
How the heck are ya!!

Whatcha mean donation police?
How can someone get mad at that request?
Did I break a rule again, damnit!!

Bad bad bad fric!:spank: :spank: :spank:
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 08:22 PM
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3. Apparently, I did.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 08:36 PM
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7. ahhh I see what you mean!! dont take it that seriously...
She has some valid points but so do we!! lol...



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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 08:24 PM
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4. What do I think about PNAC and Neocons? Well Sir, I don't like them.
Although "PNAC and the Neocons" would make a good name for a band.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 08:28 PM
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5. LOL... funny stuff!
You might win by defualt anyways, but that met all the requirements!
:evilgrin:
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 08:33 PM
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6. I've already got a star...
...but I will probably post over there.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 08:42 PM
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8. Well thats just cool as all get out!! That was sort of what I was
hoping would happen. So glad you saw this thread!
Thanks!
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:15 PM
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9. I do not fit your criteria but but I will read eagerly that group.
The Project for the New American Century is such a shocking document, especially when it calls for a 'new Pearl Harbor' and viola 9/11 nine months after the Vulcans take power. It will be a very interesting read.
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RadiDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:18 PM
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10. What group ? got a link ?
thanks
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:28 PM
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11. Go to Lobby and then click GROUPS and look for it
it's listed alphabetically.

I've just added it to My Forums as a result of this thread.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:31 AM
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26. Awesome! Thats what I was hoping for with this thread!
Thanks!!!
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Dude_CalmDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:39 PM
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12. Damn! How did I miss these?
I didn't even know there was a "PNAC/Neocon group" let alone a "Dennis Kucinich Supporters Group." Too bad I'm averaging 1.29 posts a day so I don't think my presence is really gonna make much of a difference - but I promise to read it a whole bunch now.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:33 AM
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27. Well for every poster there is at least 10 readers.
As long as you inform yourself and others then that group is serving its purpose.

So please, read away!
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:44 PM
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13. Well, Understandinglife posted a link to a thread for me in there...
Edited on Sun Feb-13-05 09:48 PM by hootinholler
Does that count?

I shall be reading it anyway.

On edit: This is the thread he linked for me. I would have started the thread there if I could have.

-Hoot
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:25 PM
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14. hey frictionless0
:kick:

don't miss this one...he's onto it.

dp
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:33 PM
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16. Thank you for the kind words....
I'm, Um, recently awoken, mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore.

-Hoot
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:49 PM
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15. how much does it cost to buy a star?
Edited on Sun Feb-13-05 11:02 PM by superconnected
okay, found out. That start showed up quick!

I can't hang on any neo-con freeper board because I've realized I can't reason with the insane.

Believe me, I have tried.
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Grey Ranks Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:36 PM
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17. Try empathy instead
it works.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:37 PM
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18. Here' what I think of 'em AND their friends:
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:37 AM
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28. That is my absolute fave!! Ever!!! I'm DLing and am gonna have my
Graphic designer make it into a poster on our fancy shmancy printer!!

I cant wait to get my new 'puter so I can start messing with photoshop!

LIZARDS!!! All of 'em! Fuckin' reptiles!!!
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:35 AM
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19. I qualify BUT
What do you say about the most powerful in this country (the world) whom are bend on controlling/destroying the world by any means necessary in order to find a few more barrels of black gold to line their pockets with? The document/blueprint for a new world order that will give the US, UK & Israel control over the ME is plain insane.....and OUR fellow citizens are all for it......May I now go bury my head, thumb in mouth in the fetal position?
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:46 AM
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21. No OUR fellow citizens aren't...
The majority of them are simply ignorant of the plot, and the rest are stoopud.

Ignorance is corectable, stoopudidity is for life.

-Hoot
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:53 AM
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22. Critical thinking is in very short supply in this country
We managed to find the truth. It's there if you want to learn.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:41 AM
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29. I agree with you on everything but the fellow citizens part...
So many are very unaware about PNAC and neocons. Not saying it'd make a difference for most of them, but we dont need most of them. Just some of them.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:45 AM
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20. O FrictionlessO!
Forgive my impertinence but I think it would be wise to first copy Stephanie's PNAC link's Redux into there to pad the ground and then steer people to it. I would help but simply do not have the time so instead am going to make impertinent suggestions.

HAD I KNOWN there was going to be such a forum I would have saved years worth of individual PNAC posts, collated them into a few sensical posts and placed them there for you.

As it is though, I promise you to check there and help you populate when the discussions start. I PROMISE TO COME POST THERE because it's a very needed forum. Thank you for getting it started!
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:49 AM
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30. I already wrote to Stephanie about it, lol...
You were actually on my list of people to PM about it today as well! LOL!! I love your posts.

Im hoping we get many long timers to post and share their thoughts over there. That would really ground the forum and give it a great starting base.

Glad you noticed! and spread the word.

As far as getting it started Im sure someone would've noticed the need sooner rather than later....but thank you!
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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:59 AM
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23. If the earth would tip, and the 14+ neo-cons slipped off, the world would
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 04:01 AM by evolvenow
be a more beautiful and non-violent planet. Until that time, I hope that millions of people support Doug Wallace in his lawsuit against B*sh and War criminal PNAC.

Lawsuit filed against President Bush,Vice President Cheney-PNAC-kick pleasEdited on Mon Jan-24-05 09:10 PM by evolvenow
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7751.ht...
Doug Wallace
WASHINGTON -- January 18 "Information Clearing House" --  A lawsuit was filed late Friday January 14th in the U.S. District Court in Reno, Nevada against President Bush and Vice President Cheney. The lawsuit alleges that both defendants have acted outside the scope of their job description in waging a war against Iraq. The complaint alleges that both defendants and others working within the White House and Defense Department have covertly implemented a white paper called “Rebuilding America’s Defenses:” as presented by the Project for the New American Century or PNAC in September, 2000 two months before the murky elections of that year. Among the persons signing the paper were Richard Cheney and Jeb Bush. While the paper was published on the internet, implementation of it by the White House has been in secret.
The thrust of the white paper calls for the complete domination of the globe by the US with wars against Iraq, Syria, and Iran, domination of outer space and of Cyberspace. It calls for an enlarged military to fight simultaneous wars. Security bases world wide with extensive constabulary forces posted to keep all nations subservient to US military and economic power. It also calls for nuclear rockets to be fired from Spy satellites to suppress any challenge to US global domination.
The class action lawsuit filed by retired attorney and great-grandfather, Doug Wallace alleges that the defendants have violated their oaths of office in entering into a private treaty relating to International relations without approval of the Congress and have made a mockery of the Constitution under a false banner of a war on terrorism.
The lawsuit seeks an injunction against further implementation of the PNAC plan without a 2/3 vote of the congress and a full disclosure to the American Public. It also names John Does 1-100 as defendants. The suit seeks restitution to the US Treasury from all Defendants of the cost of the war with Iraq and also seeks a ruling that since the deception about the war and execution of it was outside of their job descriptions they should all be individually liable to private persons injured as a result of their illegal conduct. To view Complaint go to www.dougwallace.com Under the circumstances, notice of support to the court would be appropriate (A printable copy is available at page 26 on website ). CONTACT: Founders Freedom Defense Fund : Doug Wallace 775-833-5010

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I think the whole group should be tried as war criminals and sent to the Hague or Gitmo.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:21 AM
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24. On another page hes gives his opinion of Kerry...

===%<---- (snip)
***It is however puzzling to me why the Kerry/Edwards campaign has not exposed this ruse on the part of the Bush administration to implement this right-wing agenda. Is he Complicit?
===%<---- (snip)
There was no effort on the part of the Kerry campaign to inform Americans of PNAC. Indeed where in all the congress have we heard from any member about it?

Originally, I had intended to join Kerry as a beneficiary of the lawsuit but after his sudden collapse on the morning of November 3rd followed by his going offshore during January 6th Congressional consideration of the electoral vote, I decided he was not worthy of any help from even those who had voted for him. Collusion with or cowardice in the face of the enemy with desertion from his supporters could be seen when he had promised that “every vote counted”. Is he now just “loyal” opposition?

There is however, a rumor that his daughter's life had been threatened should he attempt to challenge the outcome of the election. Should this be true then a different light is cast on the issue and it would demonstrate the risk factor that must be taken by anyone who seeks to correct the flaws in our present system of government.


I've been asking the same question since I discovered PNAC.

Anyone know about the rumor?

-Hoot
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:29 AM
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25. okay I gave out two stars last night, they should show up in the next
24 hours...

Thanks for posting here everyone and helping to get the word out about the PNAC and neocon group!
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 04:47 PM
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31. If I got my star from you, thank you very much!
I deliver pizzas full time, and am often short on money. I've never had a credit card, and need to got one so that I can donate to worthwhile efforts such as this. I will do research, and will post in the PNAC and Neocon group.
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