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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:10 PM
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I finally found a picture that explains how white men on DU feel!!!



What with all the "I feel no white guilt," "I'm against reparations," "poor, poor white males are reverse discriminated against," etc, etc, etc,...threads. (Unfortunately, the subject here is a white woman, but the sentiment is right, eh?)
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Joe Power Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:12 PM
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1. I don't feel that way
Then again, I forget that I am a white male a lot of the time. In fact, I forget a lot of stuff these days.

What were we talking about again?
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:13 PM
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2. "White Meat"
Its what's for dinner.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:24 PM
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10. LOL
it's just so politically incorrect.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:14 PM
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3. OOOOOOkay..................
ummm... wow.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:14 PM
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4. huh?
Edited on Tue Feb-15-05 01:19 PM by sui generis
funny album cover. stupid comment.

clearly that album cover depicts a white welfare queen and not reverse discriminated caucasion male.

on edit: generalizations aren't nice. I think you confuse statements on DU with the abuse of those ideas by other people in other forums that we generally avoid. Last I checked there weren't bunches of racists, or racial martyrs and victims on DU, of any color.


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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:15 PM
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6. you must not
have been following those threads.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 02:02 PM
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28. I posted in those threads
I am not a racist, I am not "defending" myself, AND I don't feel any more guilty about anything outside the conduct of my personal life than you do about the demise of African fly-tail swallows or the dead in Hiroshima. I feel terrible that my government is engaged in a war that has cost well over a hundred thousand lives, but I conduct my personal life in a way to openly resist participating in it or condoning it. I don't commit to charity in my community to support people because they're black or mexican or gay, but because they're poor and I don't give a crap what color they are.

Anyway, human rights "guilt" is not confined to national borders if you're looking for something to be guilty about.

Finally, and finally the idea of reparations is absolutely the stupidest thing I have ever heard fall from the lips of a fellow liberal.

If I'm half black does that mean my other half only pays half or I only get half? I don't feel under assault by scary natives in grass skirts. I don't feel under assault at all, except maybe by ignorance.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:14 PM
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5. "It's a man, baby"
or so saith that International Man of Mystery, Austin Powers.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:16 PM
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7. I'm a white man and I favor reparations
I missed those threads, but I don't doubt a lot of people are like that on DU. Only the small group of angry feminists who think divorce and castration are the answers to every male problem make me feel uncomfortable. That's ok though, you have to expect that on the left sometimes.

I will point out that the many of the worst forms of systemic discrimination are targeted at all low-income people regardless of race. That doesn't mean we should deny that racism is still a problem, of course.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:25 PM
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11. no use dignifying thoughtless bullshit with a well-thought-out reply
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:29 PM
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12. Well, the above poster said he FAVORED reparations.
Edited on Tue Feb-15-05 01:31 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
Thus, I wonder what he would think of the threads such as "I feel no white guilt whatsoever" that were very prominent this weekend. Some of those posts were downright repulsive. And while I don't agree that we should keep this going, one attack on one group and a retaliation by the other, you can hardly call this "unprovoked".
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:38 PM
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16. i'm sure he'd think those were wrong, but this really is getting tiresome
in the lounge. if you want to throw shitbombs at people, why not do it in GD? i don't come here to be told how fucking lucky i am every day, i come to the lounge to avoid that kind of bullshit.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:42 PM
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18. The Lounge is ...
an area for non-serious topics, including humor. I don't see how this is a shit bomb, or even suggests that you are being told you are lucky.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:48 PM
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21. feigning ignorance of all of the threads that you are referencing by
starting this thread again eh? you are not posting this without any context, yet you keep acting as if this post is occurring in a vaccuum and is not related to any other posts that have occcured here. if you are going to keep up this line of argument, then i'm wasting my time.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 02:08 PM
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30. post vacuum
vacuity nebulous nebulizing nebulizer.

this whole thread wins an "obliqueness" award.

not really directing this at you, but this thread seems like some kind of insider communication open for all the world to see.

what IS the context here!!

somebody! help!

i'm scared and i want my mommy now!
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 02:06 PM
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29. Well...
I agree that this issue shouldn't be in the lounge, but it was not started here with this post. You did not complain when this issue was brought to the lounge by the poster that did infact bring in here. That post was defending white men.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 02:10 PM
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31. how's this: i didn't feel like complaining, because that rarely happens
and when it does, the person is usually flamed for being bigoted/a racist/insensitive/whatever... did i post on that thread? i don't think that i even saw it, unless i'm thinking of a different thread. if it was over the weekend, chances are good that i didn't see it. in any event, stereotyping is fucking horseshit, and people who do it should not be taken seriously (did you like my stereotype of stereotypers? :D )
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:31 PM
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13. Lighten up Morans
this is the Lounge, not GD. Also, it's just a garden variety image of Blackness long after the civil war and emancipation, and therefore it has no racist connotations, because there was no racism after the civil war.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:34 PM
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14. it has nothing to do with the image at all. can you let sleeping
unprovoked attacks lie? jesus, i'm a fucking white man, and i am fully aware of this fact. i'm sorry that i was born this way, maybe i should be taxed at 100%, and, during the time i'm not working, be put in stocks so that people who aren't white men can ridicule me for things that other white men have done. that wouldn't be bigotry or stereotyping at all, because i'm a white man, and the rules are different. this shit is getting old. i understand that white men are born with certain advantages in life, but we're not all the same. if you think it's ok to stereotype one group of people and not others, then don't be offended when someone calls you on it.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:39 PM
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17. WTF???
This image was produced by white people, not me or any other person of color. It was not produced for the purposes of DU threads. The reaction is produces is interesting. The image suggests a white person under seige by black people. That's a pretty accurate depiction of the sentiment often expressed on DU, including in the post to which I am responding. I have to admit, I am completely stumped by your responses -- almost as stumped by Johnny in this game of Pictionary.

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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:45 PM
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20. i don't know if you're feigning ignorance, or if you have conveniently
missed all of the threads on DU repeatedly calling white men the scourge of humanity. as i've admitted before, white men aren't perfect, but i'm sick of the stereotyping that goes on here on a daily basis. you couldn't post a pic like this about any other group, and then claim that it's funny and an accurate description of the false persecution that they perceive; it would get deleted in an instant.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:48 PM
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22. Ummmmm, ehrrrr ...
Edited on Tue Feb-15-05 01:48 PM by HamdenRice
The picture at the top of the thread would be interpreted by the vast majority of people as offensive to Africans, and perhaps black people in general. I post it because in today's times it is funny and thought-provoking in a retro sort of way.

The fact that you find it offensive to white men is astounding and speaks volumes about the topic it was intended to elicit!

<edited>
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:52 PM
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23. ok, so we have to do it this way:
Edited on Tue Feb-15-05 01:53 PM by StopTheMorans
here is what YOU said: "I finally found a picture that explains how white men on DU feel!!!" it doesn't matter if the picture is of people who are not white, you are saying that this is how white men feel. stop changing the subject and trying to obfuscate the issue; you're making connections in my arguments that I never made, and would never make. if you would have posted the pic on its own without your comment, then maybe it would have been "funny and thought-provoking in a retro sort of way." you didn't tho, you had to post a snarky comment, and now you're oh so offended. i guess that i must have missed when accountability for your own posts went out of style in the lounge :shrug:

on edit: edited to fix grammar.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:56 PM
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24. I'm not offended!
Edited on Tue Feb-15-05 01:56 PM by HamdenRice
I'm LMAO! and kind of fascinated in a train wreck sort of way. And I stand by my subject line. There has been a lot of posting here about how beseiged white men feel. Well, here is an image of a beseiged white person. I honestly don't get how this is so insulting to white men. Please explain your feelings, maybe on a deeper level?

<edited>
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:59 PM
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26. already have, read the substance of my earlier posts, and then
get back to me rather than misinterpreting my posts to say something I never intended.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:18 PM
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8. oh nice, another random unprovoked attack on white men
:thumbsup:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:37 PM
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15. see? whiteys are the worst!
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:18 PM
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9. wow cool
that is nice and offensive.

got any good n*****r jokes?

what the hell are you smoking?
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:44 PM
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19. I think I speak for all of us when I say..
:wtf:





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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:58 PM
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25. Huh?
I joked in the "reverse disrimination" threads about how persecuted i felt, but it was a joke. But i don't have any white guilt. I've never been part of the problem! So, i've got nothing about which to feel guilty.

I'm only against reparations (check that thread and you'll see my tome) because i don't think there's any way to make it work financially or logistically.

The broad brush you're using here would seem, indeed, to be linked to the true root problem. Something to consider when you smear the whole of us.
The Professor
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 02:00 PM
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27. exactly!
:thumbsup:
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 02:13 PM
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32. You had the audacity to joke?
You wrote,

"I joked in the "reverse disrimination" threads about how persecuted i felt, but it was a joke."

Well, this is a jokeful representation of what a persecuted white man (or woman) feels like. And if you feel "persecuted" you must be persecuted by someone, right? The natives (people of color), perhaps? Maybe some of them are actually not persecuting you. Maybe some of them are home watching re-runs of The Jeffersons,



and don't have time to persecute you. Isn't feeling persecuted painting with a broad brush?

I don't get the outrage.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 02:14 PM
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33. Locking
Inflammatory
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