Biggest overrated rock and roll wanker?

[BigMcLargehuge]

Poll question: Biggest overrated rock and roll wanker?

[Beware the Beast Man]

1. Morrison- by far the poorest excuse for a rock icon.

[jus_the_facts]

6. Cobain-by far the poorest excuse for a rock icon

:P

[egoprofit]

59. lets not forget that Nirvana changed music as we know it

without Nirvana we may still have HAIR BANDS. Nirvana revolutionized the music industry and brought fourth the grunge movement of the early 90's... if you don't care then please just ignore this post. thanks.

on edit: this only affects my generation. sorry.

[Goldmund]

61. We DO still have hairbands.

[Jamastiene]

104. Unfortunately

we do. And they are the most overrated bunch around.

[jus_the_facts]

64. yes...and that's one reason I loathe 'em.....

....to each his own though....all in the *ear of the beholder* so to speak! :D

[egoprofit]

Nirvana is probably one of the most well known bands ever

so obviously my opinion is part of the majority...

[jus_the_facts]

70. ahh and as the sayin' says...opinions are like assholes.....

...everybody has one....you're entitled to yours...as am I...I couldn't care less who's in the majority....I can't stand 'em and nothing you or anyone else says will EVER change my mind....peace. :hi:

[Goldmund]

87. I think Bush should be president!

[Jamastiene]

105. I honestly have to say

I couldn't disagree with you more on this one. His music and his courage to stand up against racism, sexism, and homophobia were a life saver in my case. And I mean that literally not figuratively.

[Feathered Fish]

2. Feeling misanthropic?

[Ediacara]

3. Other

Dave Matthews. DAVE MATTHEWS. DAVE MATTHEWS!

[Wat_Tyler]

4. If anyone cared about him, it'd be Noel Gallagher.

[mr_hat]

7. But he's single-handedly bigger than all four Beatles.

[BigMcLargehuge]

8. and Jesus

[tigereye]

10. you go Mr. Big

How's the new arrival?

[Wat_Tyler]

11. Really?

Must be all those pies.

[theboss]

49. Liam is far far worse than Noel

Liam can make Noel appear charming.

Great live show though, I have to say.

[mr_hat]

5. Bon Jovi, and all weedlie-weedlie-weedlie guitar "gods".

[Goldmund]

9. yup.

[MemphisTiger]

Oh, c'mon bon jon rules

at least that's what the buttons on my jean jacket say :headbang:

[Feathered Fish]

12. Robert Plant

Thief, terrible musician and vastly overrated.

[DelawareValleyDem]

19. I second the motion

[Goldmund]

52. Why "thief"?

I won't dispute the rest.

[Feathered Fish]

82. For me, there are few things

First off, the appropriation of blues. Obviously he's not the only guilty party - it was the 60s after all, so that is not my main problem. There is the infamous 'Dazed and Confused', which was ripped off of Jake Holmes - who is still not credited to this day. Then there is the issue of style. Plant imitated Janis Joplin for most of his carreer, imo, as well Black Sabbath. I know that Led Zeppelin (initially) influenced Sabbath, but in the 70's, he seemed to be influenced BY Sabbath and the heavy metal sound.
Now, before I get flamed, I'm gonna shutup.

[johnnie]

13. Kravitz...but for a different reason

I think he must have taken lyric writing classes from this guy:

[JohnKleeb]

14. That guy is like coooooool tho

;)

[johnnie]

24. I meant to post a picture of Dr Seuss

Lenny's words crack me up..Moon, June, Mars, Ours..that kind of stuff..LOL

[JohnKleeb]

27. haha yeah not good, I dont have any of his music

[PROGRESSIVE1]

15. "Other" Those "Crack head-PARASITES on society" KISS and Motley Crue.

:puke:

They're taking up valuable air!

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

16. Glenn Danzig - bulging hunka hunka Elvis-Horror Business

[BigMcLargehuge]

17. Danzig has done exactly one cool thing in his whole career

appearing as himself in Aqua Teen Hunger Force

[DrGonzoLives]

20. Danzig, motherfucker

n/t

[JohnKleeb]

22. You know I had a friend who was a big Danzig friend, I still dont know

he was, :shrug: yes I live in a rock.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

33. I'll be eating cereal out of your f***ing skull!

[d_b]

57. No

Him getting his ass kicked, someone getting it on tape, and then blasting it all over the internet is the 2nd cool thing.
http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002348.html

[DS1]

74. Went down like a sack of rocks

:D

[autorank]

18. Mick Jagger (Haggar isn't even rated, how can he be "overrated" haha

[BigMcLargehuge]

21. I was going to add him in

but I had to remember that I've never heard ANYONE defend his talent. Plus, I like Sympathy for the Devil.

[Feathered Fish]

34. Never?

Great songwriter, distinctive voice and original (when not ripping off the blues).

[BigMcLargehuge]

36. you're the first who's ever done that when I'm present

:)

I guess he gets into the next poll too!

[autorank]

97. "(when not ripping off the blues)" -- That's it!

I do think he has talent and that the band is great. I just get so pissed off at Jagger and the rest of the folks who made hundreds of millions by using "The Delta Blues" AND never once, to my knowledge, recycled a share of the money for the benefit of the blues artists.

These guys in MS etc. are our national treasure. Think of America without all that the Blues has given us. Why couldn't the rock crowd from Elvis on down, put together a foundation to support or provide for the medical needs of these artists.

So f'em, Mick and "all the young dudes" who are so ungrateful to their artistic fathers and mothers.

[SOteric]

23. A write in vote for Ted Nugent, based solely on his

status as a mega-wanker, and less on any pretense that he may now be(or ever have been) a rock and roll icon.

[MemphisTiger]

28. I've seen him in concert, he SUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKKSSS

[Cornjob]

95. Saw him too... and his cornball flaming arrow stunt!

He stunk out the place!

[JohnKleeb]

30. Hes just a wanker

:) its not like too many people regard him as good.

[BigMcLargehuge]

31. I was gonna add him

but I really like the Cat Scratch Fever album, and irrespective of his politics, he's a great guitar player. Though in my next poll I'll include him as a contestant in:

Rock and Roll gods who went on to weenie music and never looked back: Damn Yankees.

[DenverDem]

44. nugent is an obnoxious asshole on so many levels, including musical.

"Journey to the Center of Your Mind" being the only exception. He was worthless after dumping the Amboy Dukes.

[Cornjob]

96. He was trained as an engineer and should have stuck with it!

He is a terrible excuse as a performer.

[redqueen]

45. Good choice... what'd he have... maybe 3 good songs?

Can anyone explain why this guy is so famous?

[MemphisTiger]

48. Alot of rednecks

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

25. Thank you for the Morrisson comments.

I literally stop talking immediately to anyone who tries to tell me this asshole was a great poet.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

26. Tom Waits - gravel-throated has been who never was screaming into

a Radioshack mic he pissed on.

[tigereye]

37. even Nighthawks at the Diner?

http://www.musthear.com/reviews/nighthawks.html


oh, some of his early stuff is great. I like his current screaming and weird drumming myself, but you should hear the early stuff.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

39. Actually I absolutely adore him and have every one of his albums

I'm just being controversial

I love Danzig too (Misfits especially)

[tigereye]

40. oh

Whoops. Why do I take you so seriously, dear. :) I wasn't a big Misfits fan, but a lot of my barfly punk friends were. They all used to go see one of their offshoots on Halloween, can't remember what the name of the band was.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

43. I live to confuse you my dear!

Did you dress as Elvira when you'd see them?

[tigereye]

47. no, I didn't go

just my giant - black clad, motorcycle booted pals who never bathed. I was scared to go, and I really wasn't into that scene. Damn. What was the name of that band. Now this is going to drive me nuts.

I was never a goth, I just used to dance with them. I wore a lot of black, but was more the alt/literary chick type.

[Theres-a]

YES!

[derby378]

66. Ooops - nevermind

Tom Waits is an underappreciated genius. 50 years after his death, they'll be building shrines in his honor.

[democracyindanger]

29. Steven Tyler

The older he gets, the more he looks like Joan Rivers.

[IcyPeas]

89. I second Steven Tyler

and the rest of his bandmates. They are everywhere -- on every dang award show -- I never understood it and I never will..... they are an average rock band - nothing more......

remember bill maher's "get over yourself award"?

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[BigMcLargehuge]

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[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

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[Susang]

41. Too....many......choices....

How can I pick just one? :shrug:

[Emops]

42. Wow, all these replies and not one mention of Bono?

I like him, by the way, but it's still odd.

I almost voted for Ozzy, but then I remembered he tried to kill his wife- something a lot of people, including me, would like to do.

So I went with Kurt Cobain. Never liked him.

[mr blur]

46. Well I voted for Gallagher,

but only because his brother and Bonio weren't on the list.

[Bat Boy]

50. Gallagher...he's the one that smashes watermelons, right?

Well if that ain't wanking, I don't know what is.

[JohnKleeb]

51. hahaha no

would be funny if he was. Noel Gallagher is the guy from Oasis. Gallaghter who you are talking about is a "comedian".

[Bat Boy]

115. You sure?

'Cause if you play Wonderwall backwards there is the unmistakable sound of sledge hammer on melon.

[Stealther]

53. How come Nugent isn't in that list?

[Goldmund]

54. Jimi Hendrix

My arthritic rheumatic grandma plays better than that wannabe

[Leftist78]

83. OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!

surely you will burn in hell forever and ever for that comment.

Jimi was AWESOME.

[Goldmund]

84. LOL

I was just trying to elicit a reaction.

Of course Jimi was awesome.

[Leftist78]

85. whew

I feel much better now. That was kinda cool :yourock:

[Jamastiene]

107. Me too!

Well, not the burn in hell part, although I probably will :evilgrin:, but the Jimi was AWESOME part.

[Cornjob]

94. Yeah... I remember your Grandma's solo on All Along the Watchtower!

C'mon! Jimi was a Michaelangelo of the guitar!

[Goldmund]

103. Dude, my grandma plays it backwards with her toes!

[Jamastiene]

106. And I almost got

upset when someone posted that they hated Kurt Cobain. :wtf:

[dean_dem]

55. You forgot Steven Tyler.

And may God smite upon you for insulting Thom Yorke.

[DinahMoeHum]

56. ". . .from the cesspools of excitement, where Jim Morrison once stood. . .

"...It's the Tinsel Town Rebellion
From downtown Hollywood..."

- Frank Zappa / Tinseltown Rebellion


:evilgrin:

[southpaw]

58. It was between Gallagher and Morrison...

Had to go with Morrison because he is revered as a rock god... the only one who thinks of Liam Gallagher as a rock god is Liam Gallagher.


Diss Geddy and Gilmour all you want... it should be evident by now that they are both immortal.

[CO Liberal]

60. I Voted For Kurt Kobain

IMHO, he made all sorts of bad choices during his short life, including drug use, gun use, and his choice of a wife.

[Jamastiene]

108. If drug use

is a criteria for overrated rock and roller, then the vast majority of rock and rollers are overrated. I don't think so...

[CO Liberal]

114. It's The Combination of Bad Decisions

Culminating with the gun to his head.

[Jamastiene]

118. The MUSIC

is what matters. And the MUSIC was great. Bottom line. Lots of people make bad decisions in their personal lives. It doesn't mean their music is any less valid...

BTW, my 64 year old aunt who has multiple sclerosis and cannot walk and lets me read the posts to her because she cannot sit up at the computer for long said you better watch out. She said to quit dissing Kurt Cobain because she'll kick yer a$$. :D

She couldn't really, but she said for me to post that.

[CO Liberal]

119. His "Music" Was Nothing Special, IMHO

He was nothing but yet another burn-out.

[Jamastiene]

123. The same could be said about

and rock musician. I guess it all comes down to just that, opinions.

[bif]

62. Meatloaf is one of the biggest

that's for sure. then you've got Randy Bachman.

[donheld]

63. Jim Morrison can read me poetry any night

if only.

[JimmyJazz]

65. I voted for Jim Morrison - I was never a doors fan except

when I was really stoned - then, I like to listen to "the End." He did seem to be incredibly full of himself.

:hi:

[LoZoccolo]

67. The tarring and feathering of Liam on the part of Beatlist agitators...

...only proves how much of a threat he is to rock's establishment traditionalists, who are desperately trying to hold whatever power they can.

[NightTrain]

68. Jim fucking Morrison!

Idolized by pretentious, self-absorbed 14-year-olds of all ages, Morrison wrote and performed on about eight songs that I find listenable. The rest of his output was pure, uncut BULLSHIT!!!

[4_Legs_Good]

69. I gotta go with Lee

Rush has to be the most overrated band in history. Bleh x 100,000 and I'm a big prog-rock fan.

The Doors, BTW, totally rocked and captured atmospheres that most bands can only dream of.

david

[miss_kitty]

71. Plus Liam is a FATASS because of FATHERHOOD

see:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2643683

And you left out Kid Rock 'Cuz he's a RAPPER now

See:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2644232

[JimmyJazz]

72. Got something against fat assed rockers?

There are way too many "wankers" in the rock world to conduct a proper poll - IMHO ;)

[miss_kitty]

78. No. Just the ones who say

"Being a dad made me a fatass" come to think of it though...

[JimmyJazz]

80. That is a bit lame, I agree - I would hire a chef and a personal

trainer if I made my living by being in the public eye! Are we in full snark-o-rama mode this evening? And when I say "we" - I mean "both you and I"

[miss_kitty]

88. well, did you click on the links, my friend?

I think you'll find the answer there. BTW-The mode has been going on all day.

[Undercover Owl]

73. Bono

overrated.

[HEyHEY]

79. He is not - just ask him!

[Hans Delbrook]

93. I love him but I still have to tell my favorite Bono joke

A rock and roll fan dies - he was a really good guy so he goes to rock and roll heaven. St. Peter is showing him around and the guy is freaking out.

"There's Jimi Hendrix, there's Janis Joplin, there's Elvis, there's..." Then he says, "Wait a minutes, Bono?? He's not dead, is he?"

St. Peter looks over to see who he's talking about and says, "Oh, that's not Bono; that's God. Some days he just seems to think that he's Bono!"

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

75. Lenny Kravitz

I hate his music so much

[HEyHEY]

77. Morrison and his shit poseur work

[Leftist78]

81. ok here goes

To quote "Almost Famous", Morrison Was a drunken buffoon.

Cobain is overrated because he fronted the first decent mainstream band since The Clash, and people were starved for decent stuff from mainstream music.

Rush sucks end of story.

Sammy Hagar and musician shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence.

Liam and his brother can go jump off a cliff. They've never been anything more than mediocre

Ozzy was ok with sabbath, but I suspect that had more to do wit Tony Iommi

Lenny Kravitz is so-so at best

David Gilmour and Pink Floyd are overrated.

Thom Yorke...your analysis is perfect.

Just because he's on the list I'd have to go with Hagar, but that's cheating. It's like putting Styx on a worst band ever list. You know they're going to get picked by the most people. Take hagar out and I'd go wit Morrison.

[MrSlayer]

86. I have to go Lenny Kravitz by a hair.

His songs are terrible and are all the same. 2 to 4 line verses and endless repeat of the chorus. He sucks. Cobain would be next. Mindless, whiny, three chord nonsense that made an entire generation think it was cool to be a pussy. Next up is Sammy Hagar. Homophobic asshole with very little talent and annoying preachy lyrics in Van Halen. Just flat out bad songs when solo. "3 Lock Box" anyone? I didn't think so. I never listened to Gallagher but I know he sucks. Gilmour, Lee, Ozzy and Morrisson might be a tad overrated but have all put out quality, some might even say legendary, material. Never heard of the last guy at all, so he can't be overrated.

[progmom]

90. I met Lenny Kravitz once.

It was an industry function at the Motown museum. That man is seriously, inexplicably sexy. Maybe inexplicably is not precisely what I mean. What I mean is that all the women there - smart, normally well-behaved women, well, we all found ourselves weak-kneed and wanting desperately to be near him. It was pathetic. He must have some serious pheromones or something. I just cannot explain it.

[JimmyJazz]

92. I agree that there is something about him -

the "it" factor? Isn't that when someone who isn't traditionally good looking is somehow incredibly appealing?

[progmom]

98. It was all I could do to keep myself from following him around

...with my tongue hanging out.

For real.

[Hatalles]

91. Kid Rock.

'Nuff said.

[jmowreader]

101. Why Kid Rock?

I mean, just because he can't sing, he can't rap, he can't write, he can't pick other people's shit to sing, he's a misogynist and a misanthrope, and if he doesn't have a FR account he should get one, what could possibly be wrong with Kid Rock?

[Jamastiene]

109. ???

Didn't your list of negatives about that disgusting waste of human flesh do it for ya?

[jmowreader]

110. He might have some positive qualities

Maybe he loves his mom. Or puppies.

Yeah, that's it. He loves puppies!

[Jamastiene]

113. Keep fishing

You might find something. After after all, expert fishermen are master baiters...

[faithfulcitizen]

99. Lenny? I love Lenny!!!!!

:wtf:

[Melynn]

100. Lenny Kravitz

The guy is a joke. He does "Gap" commercials for God's sake.

[mac56]

102. Ahh, how refreshing.

Yet another "your favorite band sucks" thread. Wiil we ever have enough of them?!

[ProfessorGAC]

112. No. We Can Never Have Too Many, mac!

Long time no chat!
The Professor

[ProfessorGAC]

111. Those Are Some Tough Choices, Big!

I went with Morrison, because i don't like the Doors' music much. The only one i question on the list is Yorke. I'm ok with him. The rest belong on this poll, IMO. One other note: Remember that the wanker lyrics of Rush are mostly written by nutjob Randian, N. Peart.
The Professor

[BigMcLargehuge]

121. I am playing to the crowd

I actually have all of Radiohead's work and like it quite a bit (well, except Amnesiac, that one kind of blows). All of the artists up there have at least a track or two that I like, except Morrison (he's a wanker of the first order), but it's fun to poke fun at all of them.

I think the main criticism of Radiohead/Yorke is that they moved away from more traditional guitar-driven rock with OK Computer (one of the best albums of any genre) and into click and whistle computer rock with Kid-A, Amnesiac, and Hail to the Thief. I know the Kid-A and Amnesiac records turned off a whole lot of people.

[Mr. Blonde]

116. No Scott Stapp?

Oh wait, I guess he belongs in the who is the spawn of satan poll.

[Frogtutor]

117. Oh, no! I LOVE Bono AND Lenny...

put them together and you'd have my dream man...

[sendero]

120. Hilarious....

.... hey, I don't agree with all of your characterizations, but by god they are funny and on point!

I regret I have but one vote to exercise my opinion.

[Mike Daniels]

122. Peter Gabriel solo w/ exception of album 3 and 4

His first two solo albums weren't all that great and anything post number 4 has been laden down with his lyrical interpretations of his trips to the psychoanalyst.

Get over the fact that Ms. Arquette dumped your ass and go back to wearing a dress with a fox head on it you world-music appropriating phoney.

[ET Awful]

124. I'm gonna have to go with Cobain

Sorry, but that self-indulgent loser with all his self-induced inflictions does nothing for me. I mean, in the very early days (pre Nevermind), they were a decent band, then they turned into a pretentious bunch of wankers who tried to look like Neil Young and sound like a bad punk band on a week long meth binge.