Hannity trashes Freerepublic , freepers going wild.

[bowens43]

Hannity calls freerepublic a childish fringe site.

Freepers respond with childish fringe remarks.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1344622/posts

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. *lol* too funny!

[stevedeshazer]

50. They've already hanged him, look at this post

To: clyde260
Seen Hannity, FReep you. I will never again listen to or watch your shows.

I now consider you on par with Bill O'Reilly.

Good bye.


135 posted on 02/16/2005 12:23:47 PM PST by Tarpaulin (Look it up.)

[bloom]

72. I thought they liked Bill O'Reilly

:shrug:

Doesn't he say what they want him to say?

[LoZoccolo]

117. I could see why they wouldn't.

He believes in global warming and thinks we should have (what he says are) strong environmental protections. Plus he is against the death penalty. Deviating from the FReeper line on these few things is probably dealt with severely by some!

[UCLA Dem]

213. what??? o'reilly has some decent bones in his body???

[TyeDye75]

226. O Reilly says hes an environmentalist

but he never does anything on his show about it.

[stevedeshazer]

119. No, they like Limbaugh

Most of them only tolerate O'Reilly.

[Emboldened Chimp]

2. Really? What brought that on?

[JohnKleeb]

3. Oh that is funny

[Emops]

4. Like monkeys throwing poop at each other!

[KurtNYC]

220. "fringe" monkeys

[trotsky]

5. LMAO

Oh I just love how you introduced that. Well done.

[underpants]

6. I heardhim mention the Freepers about a year ago

He was very familiar (they really are connected-a focus group type thing I think) with several posters there.

At the time he was lamenting about how great it used to be but it had only become a fightfest since then.

That being said it sounds to me like he is trying to distance himself from Gannon/Guckert.

[Cooley Hurd]

12. Ooh... ya think Hannity's in Guckert's "client" rolodex?

:D

[stevedeshazer]

42. I think that's it exactly

The "liberal" media is fighting united against internet news and bloggers.

For once, the media meltdown is on both sides.

[Carni]

67. YEP! You nailed it! LMAO

Too bad Sean your ugly mug is all over the net at the freeper functions...

Looks like Sean wants to cut bait with all things Gannon FAST.

Which makes me wonder if something larger is about ready to blow on the Gannon story?

[fishwax]

77. hmm ... interesting theory

i hope this ball keeps rollin ...

[LittleClarkie]

139. Oh that's right, Gannon posts over at Freeperville

I did a search for him a couple days ago under "Jeff Gannon" and there he was.

Bahahahaha.

[Liberty Belle]

173. Plus Gannon boasted there about leaking stories to Hannity.

during pillow talk, perhaps?

[LittleClarkie]

176. (full body shudder)

Gee. Thanks.

Don't DO that.

[Borgnine]

185. Poor choice of words there.

I think there's already been lots of blowing in relation to Gannon.

[prodigal_green]

214. I LOVE that picture of the good doctor

thanks.

[UL_Approved]

187. You can run, but you can't hide

I'll bet that the half-assed little shill got some dirt and he didn't ever know it at the time.

Gannon may be more damaging than the RW knows. Without intention of implication, I'll bet Gannon got some interesting contacts and stuff that was innocent at the time.

Gannon is just fiction, and a hack at that. But I'll bet he gathered some dirt as he oozed his way around Washington. He could be their own little Typhoid Jeffy, spreading around evidence that leads to indictments. We can only hope.

On edit:

After listening to the audio, Hannity was MOST DEFINITELY trying to distance himself from the Gannon issue. His voice gave him away, since he was reading off a statement that was pretty contrived. Push this one on, folks, we have some new meat.

Gannon is the Watergate Hotel to this whole scandal. The shill conspiracy in our news and pundit media starts here. This is going to get interesting if we pursue.

[crispini]

7. ROFL!

Oh, that's classic.

edit: this one is my fave:

To: 1Old Pro
I can't BELIEVE what he just said about us!!!!!

"tendency to eat thier own"???????

"engage in petty squabbling"???????

%^*^#!@% to YOU HANNITY!



32 posted on 02/16/2005 12:15:52 PM PST by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)

[Emboldened Chimp]

132. Oh, come on Freeps....

...just spell it out like we do: Fuck you, Hannity!

[drdtroit]

8. You gotta love how they are

dissing their own "gilded calf".:P

[cheezus]

9. that's how a crazy gains credibility

by calling his fellow crazies crazy

[mindem]

10. Pot calling the kettle black.

They are all fringe lunatics. Pretty funny.

[hermetic]

11. Too funny

"says we taken over by fringe people"
Didn't think anything would ever get me to look at that site. I feel so much better now.

[MADem]

53. Yep...it made ME look

...and I am on the "don't go there" team, as well.

519 posts of outrage! And that's just so far!

Buncha whiners, if you ask me. It's what happens when you have all branches of government, there's nothing to fight against, so they turn on each other, like too many rats in a small enclosure.

My heart does not bleed!

[RaleighNCDUer]

168. Popped over there for a glance

2,258 POSTS!!!

Meltdown!!!!!

[RedCloud]

107. Excellent grammar too!

We taken over...

[fudge stripe cookays]

13. Bwa ha.

He also said we eat our own, and all the people he knew left long time ago.

Truth hurts!
FSC

[Beaverhausen]

LOL!!!

oh that is rich!!!

[cheezus]

14. it... it... it... it CAN'T BE! Must... rely... on... blind faith!

lol
"Unfortunately, I don't have access to Sean's radio show right now, but I find this a bit hard to believe. He may have been quoting what someone else said, but I very much doubt he said it himself."

[Richardo]

15. Hannity is too much the sell-out -- The Savage Weiner is where it's at

Personally, I cannot listen to the guy anymore. His show is boring, and his ego is just too much. I've switched to The Savage Nation instead. Mike is more in line with my thinking. :scared:



36 posted on 02/16/2005 12:16:48 PM PST by tx4guns :eyes: (Guns don't murder people; stupid people murder people.)

[Liberal Veteran]

27. Yeah, I saw that one too and thought..

Yeah, Weiner is much less egotistical and fringe than Hannity!

[guitar man]

16. hahahahaha!

Just like I predicted. I knew at some point they would start turning on each other and eating their own. Let's hope this trend continues.

[kmla]

17. Hannity wonders off the reservation, soon to reveal.....

.... that he is a closet liberal! Hannity & Colmes was just a big charade!

*He walks into the forest, hugs a tree, then starts singing "Kumbaya" in a slightly off-key voice.*

[ClintonTyree]

223. Or Colmes starts asking all the questions..............

and Hannity just sits there nodding and introduces all of the commercials. Yeah, THAT'LL happen.
There ins't a mirror that Hannity doesn't like.

[JI7]

18. Joe Scarborough predicted this

he made some comment about how with Republicans controlling everything now, what will people like Hannity who just blindly repeat right wing talking points do.

[CottonBear]

19. It is a thing of beauty!

That has made my day!

[CBGLuthier]

20. Only if Hannity regards educated 'high falutin' people as fringe

That's from one of the replies.

Didn't read them all yet but it would be hard for anyone to say anything funnier over there.

[walldude]

135. That was my favorite as well..

that site is just chock full of high falutin edumacated folks....

[Lady Freedom]

21. HA HA! I like this post!!!!

To: 1Old Pro
I can't BELIEVE what he just said about us!!!!!

"tendency to eat thier own"???????

"engage in petty squabbling"???????

%^*^#!@% to YOU HANNITY!



32 posted on 02/16/2005 12:15:52 PM PST by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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Sounds like Hannity is telling us something we already know here on DU!!1:evilgrin:

[da_chimperor]

22. BWAHAHA! BE-FUCKING-AUTIFUL!

I'm really loving this! :evilgrin:

[johnnie]

23. That's funny

[Triana]

224. Johnnie - caption for your pic...

"The making of a Republican..."

[AlCzervik]

24. i love to watch them cannibalize each other-sick i know

[da_chimperor]

25. Ha, great comment:

To: Always Right

I guess Tony Snow and Rush are on the fringe as well.

22 posted on 02/16/2005 12:14:59 PM PST by jasoncann
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Well NO shit?! :wtf:

[AlCzervik]

29. i like this one

To: 1Old Pro


Only if Hannity regards educated 'high falutin' people as fringe.
10 posted on 02/16/2005 12:14:00 PM PST by Borges
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Yeah....sure.

[Momgonepostal]

37. That one made me laugh out loud, this is good too

Sean is committing ratings suicide.

His stock will drop 50% by the time this thread is over.

54 posted on 02/16/2005 12:18:51 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)

Full of self much?

[Arkana]

26. At the risk of sounding evil

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA(ad infinitum)

[tcoursen]

41. Hannity does sometimes criticize other republicans

I have listened to Hannity many times, althought not recently.

he often does criticize republicans. Several examples include Criticizing Bush over immigration and mayor Bloomberg on just about every issue. When Whitman was governor of NJ and Hannity wasn't national and talked more about NY/NJ issues he critcized her a few times. When McGreevey was running for NJ governor Hannity critcized NJ republicans for not putting up a good candidate.

He doesn't do it that often, but he does sometimes critcize other republicans.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

46. In short, when he criticizes Republicans it's

for not being Republican enough.

[tcoursen]

51. for not being conservative enough

Mostly he complains when they aren't sticking to being a conservative. I think at one point I do remember Hannity complaining about Bush spending, but if I remember it was prior to 9/11. Hannity got a lot more harsh after 9/11.

when he complained about NJ republicans it was because they are pretty much non-existant.

But this isn't really any differant than when Democrats criticize other democrats. haven't there been threads about being angry at Democrats that voted to confirm Rice. Democrats that support the war. Etc. etc. Aren't they being criticized for not being "democrat" enough?

[Bouncy Ball]

202. Hey dude

we can see right through you.

[Arkana]

65. We must be talking about two different Hannities

You must have heard the one who's NOT a shameless, spineless, wingnut media whore. This guy doesn't criticize when it counts.

[DainBramaged]

85. There are NO Republicans left, only members of the Con-Job BFEE

[The Great Escape]

169. Criticizing Bush Over Immigration Would Get Hannity Banned From FR

[Shallowgal]

198. Criticizing Bush over immigration would get hannity banned from FR

Yep, he's not in lockstep with the rest of them!

[StopTheMorans]

28. childish and fringe? i'd call them insane and fringe, or maybe paranoid

and fringe, but childish? won't somebody give some credit to the children!?

[Carni]

68. I loved the *childish* addition

Those idiots claim they are the "adults back in charge" he really stuck it to them LMAO

[MrModerate]

30. How's this for a quote:

"I guess Tony Snow and Rush are on the fringe as well."

(I was looking for a clever remark to follow this up, but I'm effectively speechless . . .)

DRAT -- SOMEONE ELSE GOT THIS ONE IN WHILE I WASN'T LOOKING.

[blm]

31. I have more respect for freepers than I do Hannity. Hannity KNOWS he lies

and exaggerates to promote the fascists and their control over this country. The freepers are only really guilty of BELIEVING the propaganda spreaders like Hannity.

[JohnKleeb]

33. as often the case, you make a great point

It is still rather amusing to see this, that said.

[Griffy]

150. Some of them know too.. and want fascism! bigots and nazis...

One of them said, "I'm not fringe, I' run of the mill neocon!" says it all..

[blm]

211. and some of them are just conservatives who BELIEVED their leaders.

They are the freepers I sympathize with today, now that they realize they are being kicked to the curb.

Hannity, Limbaugh and all of FOX are really just HIGHLY paid mouthpieces for the fascists in charge. They know how to sell fascism and corporatism to the working class and get them to vote AGAINST their best interests.

[DU GrovelBot]

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[Worst Username Ever]

60. But you'll never take my freedom, grovelbot!

:P

[sasquatch]

84. QUIT 'JACKING THE THREADS YOU BUM!!

:silly:

[blondeatlast]

101. Damn troll shows up in EVERY Hannity thread, I swear. nt

[JimmyJazz]

34. Oh thank you! I needed a good laugh and this is it!

:toast: good find!

[Beaverhausen]

35. this is a good one

"hannity is a sellout. I new him for a fraud the day I began listening to the Savge Nation."

[Laurab]

148. Oh, that poster must be one of the :

"educated 'high falutin' people." that post over there. In my few visits over there, I've noticed most of them spell that way...must be from the "no child left behind" program or something.

[tridim]

36. Putting 2 and 2 together..

Hannity is trying to distance himself from the direct Guckert/Free Republic link. Too late Sean, you are all Guckert.

[CottonBear]

38. Bwahahahahahaha! Oh, this is too good! n/t

[Ladyhawk]

155. OT: I've often looked at your sig line, tridim...

...and I've wondered, "Is that the turtle's tail or something else?"

[tridim]

164. It's a tail, but it certainly looks like something else

References available at Guckert's "non-existent" porn sites.

[Cooley Hurd]

192. A great Daily Show reference...

Which congressman was it that said if we allow homosexuality, then we might as well allow sex with box turtles?:shrug:

[GiovanniC]

199. John Cornyn

Here's how it goes: Rick Santorum with his dick in a dog who has his dick in John Cornyn who has his dick in a box turtle.

[dave29]

225. You might say

he has Guckert all over him.

[HEyHEY]

39. THey seem baffled

[ElectroPrincess]

201. Don't cha just LOVE IT when Right Wing Radicals eat their own? eom

[Lady Freedom]

40. Do they even know that we a laughing at them???

I mean the way they are spelling is horrid! That is a laugh within itself. Do they have spell check at all?

[AlCzervik]

45. cromagnon men rarely use spellcheck.

Wait until they figure out that Limpballs is really only in it for the $$$$.

[AlCzervik]

64. yes they do know...now

To: 1Old Pro

I would like to officially ZOT this thread. The DUmbasses are having too much fun watching us. They are jumping to all the typical BS conclusions.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=2644995&mesg_id=2644995
706 posted on 02/16/2005 1:30:28 PM PST by mnehrling (cBS- Fourth Column, Fifth Estate, Disinformers)
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[Arkana]

66. "BS conclusions?"

What conclusions have we drawn from this that could POSSIBLY be BS? They made it VERY clear that they're pissed at Hannity!

[Carni]

71. Hannity is distancing himself from FR and their male prosti-members

Is that the kind of conclusion that *oldpro1* says people are jumping to over here? (LOL)

First Drudge, then Jonah and now Jeff--seems to be a trend for this kind of thing amongst freepers!

[ET Awful]

43. LOL . . . talk about egotistical loons . . .

"Sean is committing ratings suicide.

His stock will drop 50% by the time this thread is over."

LOL . . . I think they overstimate their own worth.

I mean . . . I wish it was true and that they alone could destroy the assholes ratings and blast him off the air, but I think they're more full of hot air than a ballooning festival.

[qanda]

44. Hilarious

It's like watching an episode of Jerry Springer.

[SiouxJ]

47. Too funny!

yup, he's trying to distance himself from the nutcases. That's funny since he's the grand-poobah of nutcases.

[livinginphotographs]

48. From "AlwaysRight"

To: 1Old Pro
Fringe? I am not fringe! When do we start the attack?

9 posted on 02/16/2005 12:13:58 PM PST by Always Right
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*snarf*

Why doesn't this self-proclaimed attack dog do some good for his presnent and enlist?

[merh]

49. That's pretty friggin funny!

poor sean, heeeheeee!

[Bluebear]

52. Fickle, shallow people. Now he's "Vannity" all of a sudden

"Uh yeah, I never liked him much."

[Arkana]

69. I think they should start using our "Insannity"

Sounds better.

On second thought, I don't want Freepers using ANY terms from here.

[Misunderestimator]

54. LOL... childish fringe remarks...

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

55. "The "Great One" posts here, though." - Wayne Gretsky?

To: Conservababe


The "Great One" posts here, though.


28 posted on 02/16/2005 12:15:28 PM PST by big fan of 37 40 43

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[jmowreader]

142. I think the "Great One" is freepdom's favorite junkie

For years I thought that you'd have to be stoned to be able to get through three hours of Rush.

Apparently Rush feels the same way.

[EstimatedProphet]

167. Jackie Gleason posts on Free Republic?

Who knew?

[webjamn]

172. Mark Levin is the

Great One according to Hannity. Levin is a right wing nutjob lawyer from New York who is pissed at the Supreme Court for overturning the law in Texas against sodomy. It's amazing so many conservatives are against sodomy at the same time that Dumbya is sodomizing the country.

[Speck Tater]

56. Let's pretend Al Franken said DU is fringe lunatics.

What would our responses look like?

Hmmm?

[ET Awful]

57. Al wouldn't say that.

Al isn't a whore trying to cover his tracks and connections to a disgraced "reporter."

[Bluebear]

58. Bingo

[Mizmoon]

59. please, let's simply enjoy that THEIR guy said it

:hi:

[MADem]

61. Franken would be hard put to say that

The moderators here do a pretty good job, at least that is my humble take on it. There's a lot of lively back and forth, but there's none of that "Grab the torches, let's burn the village!" attitude that (if this cited thread is any judge) seems to be damn near unanimous. For every person who says he has a point, there are dozens who want to feed him to the dog for breakfast.

From looking at the FR thread, they seem to be ready to drag this guy's carcass through the streets. I understand he is a big-headed blowhard, but I don't watch him, because I don't watch Faux--if I'm going to swallow propaganda, I'd like it with a little arsenic....and I happen to like living!

[dweller]

156. Let him, he's a right to his opinion

i don't think it would change anyone's here.

dp

[Bouncy Ball]

204. If Al Franken said that?

I'd laugh. He's a comedian. Hannity isn't a comedian (not even if he wanted to be).

[Stop_the_War]

62. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[d_b]

63. bahahahaha!

I love it.

[txaslftist]

70. That dang Hannity is a comminist.

Abandinin the true blue republicins in their time of need jist to set up his owne website somewhars else.

I Useta think he were on are side, but he idn't. No sir, he idn't. He jist went and betrayed all we stood for for all this time. The President (may he live ferever) otter decklare him a terrarrist and have his Mickey ass locked up in Gwantmano.

[Hans Delbrook]

134. Bwahahwahha LOL!

Man, you caught the foaming mouth, brainless tone and the pre-school spelling and grammar perfectly!

[Nothing Without Hope]

73. Funny, but this has a more sinister side: part of anti-internet campaign

The Howie Kurtz and Wolfie Blitzer travesties on the "Gannon" scandal, as well as the Jan 19 special by Ted Koppel on how "internet bloggers" talking about the election being stolen are total whackos all share a common theme: "The internet is not a reliable source of news, you cannot trust it, and people who use it regularly are dangerous and will invade your privacy."

From this carefully framed position it will be a short step to new laws to suppress freedom of information access and expression on the internet.

The administration has obvious reasons for wanting to stifle dissent and activism and prevent evidence of their corruption being found and exposed. The corporate media are threatened as well by the growing reliance on the internet for news. So, it's natural that these two (really one in many senses) forces join to take steps to suppress their common enemy: freedom on the internet.

Hannity doesn't give a damn about the conservative blogs, he wants the WHOLE INTERNET to be stifled. What can Free Republic do for Hannity that his handlers in the blivet** administration can't do better? Besides, we're supposed to be impressed by his 'high standards" in badmouthing the whole internet scene. It's the latest in-thing for corporate media shills to do.

I think this anti-internet pattern is part of a planned campaign, and I think we need to watchdog it and make our own plans to counter it.

[Old and In the Way]

76. Whoa....good point.

That might be something that should concern the posters on all the RW posting sites as well.

We should see who else starts picking up on this riff in the corporate media.

[Nothing Without Hope]

81. Yes, but not only in the corporate media. Also speeches by politicians

We should be watching for telling phrases in line with this framing language appearing in speeches by neocon congressmen and other prominent Rethug supporters:
"liberal bloggers"
"internet bloggers"
"internet liberals"
"left-wing bloggers"
...and so on

in conjunction with negative language like
"invasion of privacy"
"unreliability" and similar words
"distortions and lies" and similar words
"dangerous"
"out of control"
"over the line"
...and so on.

And if we ever see the words "internet conspiracy" or "blogger plots" or anything like that, we are in BIG TROUBLE. Suppressive laws are almost certainly being discussed secretly now and can very quickly be passed by the Rethug-dominated Congress. They don't need the RW blogs and discussion boards, but they can be hurt by the growing progressive activism on the internet like DU. They won't blink an eye at trashing all of it.

I feel strongly that we should be actively watchdogging this and countering the disinformation campaign about the internet NOW. It's part of the aggressive "get the truth out in spite of the corporate media" campaign that we should be pushing hard.

[Old and In the Way]

97. I waded through a lot of the posts at FR to see if anyone brought

this point up (from their perspective). As you can suspect, they are quite focused on the immediate issue and not really thinking this through.

I totally agree....the RW blogs are expendable. By the time these clueless understand that it's about freedom of speech/information sharing and pitting the criminals against the liberals AND conservatives, it will be too late.

I'd love it if someone would post this perspective over there......

[BronxBoy]

108. Excellent Point n/t

[CAcyclist]

141. The Electronic Freedom Foundation could use support

http://www.eff.org/

They have been out front fighting against proposed internet taxes and other infringements and they'll be the first to get wind of anything serious.

[Nothing Without Hope]

161. Thanks for this important link! This looks to be a key resource

They must have had to take second choice for domain name, because they're the "Electronic Frontier Foundation," though the word "freedom" is very prominent on their web site:

EFF is a nonprofit group of passionate people — lawyers, technologists, volunteers, and visionaries — working to protect your digital rights.

Our Mission: If America's founding fathers had anticipated the digital frontier, there would be a clause in the Constitution protecting your rights online, as well.

Instead, a modern group of freedom fighters was necessary to extend the original vision into the digital world.

That's where the Electronic Frontier Foundation comes in.
Just as Patriots fought for liberty and freedom, we fight measures that threaten basic human rights. Only the dominion we defend is the vast wealth of digital information, innovation, and technology that resides online.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation is a group of passionate people — lawyers,technologists, volunteers, and visionaries — working in the trenches, battling to protect your rights and the rights of web surfers everywhere. The dedicated people of EFF challenge legislation that threatens to put a price on what is invaluable; to control what must remain boundless.

Electronic Frontier Foundation: Because being able to share ideas and information is the reason the Web was created in the first place!

[CAcyclist]

175. No, that's me forgetting their name and not double-checking

and you're welcome!

[CAcyclist]

177. Also Annalee Newitz

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/19514/

I can't open two windows at the same time on this computer, so forgive me if I misspelt any names. Annalee is a tech columnist who frequently writes about political threats to the internet and other threats like this column about the FCC. She's a must-read.

[Spiffarino]

151. Have you started a thread on this topic?

You should. You're scarin' the crap out of me.

[Nothing Without Hope]

158. No, but you're the 2nd person who's asked. So I will.

Tonight or tomorrow AM I'll start a different thread and copy over the relevant posts from this (largely unrelated) thread. I'll put it in the Media Forum and post a link here in this thread so that anyone interested can go there to continue the discussion after I've set up the link. Until then, go ahead and keep posting on this subject here -- I'll transfer the posts to the new thread when I set it up.

Yes, I'm very, very scared about this too. But I figure it's better to be scared and prepared than miss anticipating such a deadly countermove against progressive activism by the neocon cartel.

I feel it's not a matter of IF they will try to suppress internet freedom, it's a question of WHEN and HOW. We need to brainstorm and watchdog and be prepared when they make their move.

One of the ways to prepare is to GET THE TRUTH OUT ABOUT INTERNET-BASED NEWS AND ACTIVISM so that it's harder for them to sell their lies about it. We need to come up with more ways to do this. I'm going to work toward starting a DU Group dealing with optimizing getting the truth out to people who don't already get their news from the internet. Maybe internet freedom protection could be discussed there as well; there are many related issues in the two subject areas.

[Nothing Without Hope]

180. ***TRANSFERRED THE INTERNET FREEDOM POSTS TO A NEW THREAD***

I transferred the posts in this thread dealing with threats to internet freedom to a new thread in the Media Forum here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=109x18717

The OP is the mother of all OP, because I transferred all the relevant posts from the Hannity thread in the Lounge. I hope people aren't so overwhelmed by this mass of text that they avoid this thread.

I do believe that we need a DU group called something like "Preserving Internet Freedom" to tackle the whole issue of watchdogging and brainstorming ways to counter the anticipated attack from the administration. I believe this to be vital. How do you people feel about this?

[wryter2000]

74. Here's my favorite

Fringe? I am not fringe! When do we start the attack?

Speaks for itself.

[crispini]

104. I really think that one must be by a DU poster's sockpuppet.

Because it's too damn funny.

[Old and In the Way]

75. What's Sean have to say about Lucianne?

I'd hope he'd give them equal time.

Gosh, this is quite surprising, given the times....seems that they need to keep a seamless front. I'm guessing it really must have to do with Guckert and his association to FR.

Get that popcorn popping...this is going to be goooooooooood.

And I hope we can help amplify Sean's comments all over the Blogosphere. Maybe Keith can get it going on Cable.

[southpaw]

82. Popcorn ready!!!

[DeaconBlues]

78. Oh boy, here's a good one

To: Williams
Hannity has a pretty face and no substance.

877 posted on 02/16/2005 2:03:42 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ("Hi I'm Sean Hannity, BUY MY BOOK it's really good, Please someone BUY my BOOK, I'm for sale too")
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Pretty face!?!?! He looks like the ass end of a bulldog who has downs syndrome! Please somebody let me know what these people have been smoking, because I really need some!

[HeatherG.]

149. I Don't Get It Either

Hannity's nose is crooked, and he is always making that overly smug facial expression. It is so over the top it makes him seem almost like a caricature of himself.

[Bouncy Ball]

205. I don't watch these guys but I think I've seen them

is Hannity the puffy eyed one? Kinda tiny slitty eyes? Really pale, dark hair?

Or is that not him?

[HeatherG.]

219. Yes

You just described Hannity. Colmes is the liberal one with glasses that usually lets Hannity get away with his bullshit.

[Mike Daniels]

196. Considering they think Ann Coulter is totally hot

why should anyone be shocked that FReeps think Hannity is also good looking?

[tishaLA]

79. Hannity loves Ann Coulter

and he calls FReepers childish and fringe? He loves Falwell and Dobson and he calls FReepers childish and fringe?

Doesn't he know his audience?

[Nothing Without Hope]

87. The RW internet posters are NOT his audience, and he is distancing himself

As I said in a couple of earlier replies on this thread, I think this shows distancing of Hannity from internet-based information and activism IN GENERAL. He doesn't need the freepers, he just needs the support of the corporate media and the blivet** administration. And I believe these two (really one) forces have already begun a campaign designed to culminate in repressive legislation against internet freedom. They'll ditch the freepers without a qualm if it means they can also wipe out progressive internet use.

Progressive internet information access and political activism has become more than a mere nuisance to the powers in corporate media and government and they mean to suppress them. THIS IS SERIOUS.

Edited to clarify what I am trying to say:
The RW internet posters represent a very small part of Hannity's market. He can lose them without a problem. His REAL audience are the Bush voters, and he has to please the blivet** administration and the corporate media. Distancing himself from "internet bloggers" is a calculated step, I believe, and the ejection of the Free Republic posters is a small sacrifice toward the goal of outlawing ALL freedom of the internet.

[sparky_in_ma]

93. Very good point!

I hadn't looked at it that way. (it is fun to watch this week, first Gannon, now Hannity. I've got to hit the I believe thread today.):thumbsup:

[Nothing Without Hope]

96. Hi Sparky - maybe the KOEB can add a bit more to your cheer

You were missed in last night's meeting, and not just for your bartending and custodial skills!

By the way, where is the "I believe" thread now? I've misplaced the URL.

Hope to see you later at the KOEB meeting -
To The Ties That Bind!
:toast:

[Old and In the Way]

100. Suggest starting a separate thread on this subject.

I'm afraid that the top story (Hannity vs. FR) will drown out the more important aspect that you raise. I think the internet is a big threat to the interests of the few who are dominating our lives through control of government and the corporate media.

We need to really watch this story unfold in this context. I'll be interested if Rush starts to tack away from his internet dittoheads as well.

[Nothing Without Hope]

154. OK, I'll start a new thread later tonight or tomorrow and link to it here

I'll copy the relevant posts (on the idea that internet freedom is being threatened) from this thread and put them into the newer thread somehow. I think the Media Forum might be a reasonable place for it. Please let me know if you have any suggestions on this.

[Nothing Without Hope]

181. ***TRANSFERRED POSTS ON PRESERVING INTERNET FREEDOM TO A NEW THREAD***

I transferred the posts in this thread dealing with threats to internet freedom to a new thread in the Media Forum here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=109x18717

The OP is the mother of all OP, because I transferred all the relevant posts from the Hannity thread in the Lounge. I hope people aren't so overwhelmed by this mass of text that they avoid this thread.

I do believe that we need a DU group called something like "Preserving Internet Freedom" to tackle the whole issue of watchdogging and brainstorming ways to counter the anticipated attack from the administration. I believe this to be vital. How do you people feel about this?

[BronxBoy]

110. I have a question...

Do you think that the Internet can truly be suppressed? I've often heard people say that the Internet is too large and expansive to be stifled but your comments do make one wonder. I have always felt that the Internet was a relatively new tool in the hands of people and that as they became more sophisticated and discerning in it's use and of the quality of the information to be had on it, it would truly become a true tool of free expression. How do you think it can be stifled and what should we look for in terms of potential legislation?

edited to spelling

[sparky_in_ma]

112. One really easy way would be a tax.

A very large tax on internet providers, or discussion forums, which would get passed on to the user by making most all sites pay sites. Or tax individuals by usage amounts, monitored through ISP's. That's not tin foil, such concepts have really been discussed.

[Nothing Without Hope]

123. Yes, I think the internet can be suppressed. They control the government

Exactly how this suppression might take place is something that I think should be a subject of brainstorming, questions to media experts, and intense watchdogging of corporate media and Rethug-sympathizing government figures -- members of Congress, judges, White House employees, DOJ and DOD spokespeople, Homeland Security, and so on.

A tax would be an easy starting point and I do expect to see a law with some form of internet tax as part of another bill soon.

But what I am REALLY expecting as the excuse to shut down internet freedom is some form of scare tactic, that "TERRORISTS" can use the internet to get info that can be used to attack the country. The Rethug framing themes now are

(1) the internet is not reliable as a source of information for regular people (subtext: you don't need the internet, folks) and
(2) "internet bloggers" can invade your privacy and persecute you (subtext: if wacko libruls can do it, what about TERRURISTS??)

I am expecting the most poisonous attack to come from the direction of HOMELAND SECURITY. They are already trying to pass legal code that set aside freedoms and other laws any time it's "necessary" to "protect homeland security." They might even set up a faux "terrorist attack" a la 9/11 and demonstrate prominently that it could not have been accomplished without the internet. That's what I expect.

They are trying to drum up fear and revulsion for internet use, and there is no way this is a coincidence with the growing power of internet-based activism to be able to resist them and expose their corruption.

Edited to highlight the last two paragraphs and add:
Welcome to DU, Bronxboy! You ask good questions! We may not have all the answers, but we're damn well not giving up on getting the important ones. Glad to have you joining the good fight.
:toast:

[BronxBoy]

191. Thanks

I'm a pretty easy going guy but when I read some of the threads on this board, my hair stands on end. Thanks for your reply, I always use comments like yours from DU to help enlighten my peers.

[Nothing Without Hope]

230. I'm no expert at all, but I'm hoping that we will be getting the best info

That will be part of the goal of the Group I am trying to start at DU on preserving internet freedom. I don't know what the experts who have been watching and studying these matters have learned, but with organization and communication, we can all learn and prepare. The things I suggest are possibilities that seem to me to be reasonable based on previous patterns of action by this administration and the fact that either now or soon the threat from a free internet will be sufficiently worrisome to them that they will move to kill it. That much seems clear, but it's just a start. There are other groups and organizations that have been studying various aspects of this issue already and will have more honed ideas and firmer facts.

[baron j]

190. If they suppress it though, how will they locate their

online prostitutes?

[teachermarie]

125. Sadly, I think you're right. Something else is going on here.

Feb. 14 Drudge had as one of his top headlines.

Search engine is cash engine for Democrats

WASHINGTON, Feb. 14 (UPI) -- Employees of U.S.-based search
engine Google gave $207,650 to federal candidates for the 2004
elections -- virtually all of it to Democrats.

A USA Today analysis published Monday indicated 98 percent of
the money went to Democrats, the most-lopsided giving of any
of the top tech company donors.

Microsoft was the biggest tech donor, with its political
action committee contributing $3.1 million last year, 60
percent to Democrats.

Overall, 53 percent of high-tech industry contributions went
to Democrats, said the liberal Center for Responsive Politics,
a group that tracks campaign spending and contributions. 
<snip>
Not a very long article but someone seems upset that the
internet is not under any thought control.  Sounds like a
tin-foil hat theory but Rove would sleep better at night if
every information outlet was owned by those "on
message".


http://interestalert.com/brand/siteia.shtml?Story=st/sn/02140004aaa027d2.upi&Sys=rmmiller&Fid=NATIONAL&Type=News&Filter=National%20News

[sparky_in_ma]

153. Hi...Welcome to DU

:hi:

[LiberalCompassionate]

145. I agree

this is the start of suppressing freedom of the internet. A fabricated threat will materialize (see today's news on CIA Goss' terrer warnin) that, surprise, will result in patriot act III - internet reform.

We need to brainstorm ideas on preemptive action; either to stall this "reform" and/or alternate communication outlets.

Better yet, getting elections credible may just be the necessary first step. Then the Democratic Party can gain a foothold and restore checks and balances. Till then, we, the "internet fringe" are the last remnants of American democracy. :scared:

[Nothing Without Hope]

163. I agree. WE SHOULD START A DU GROUP ON PRESERVING INTERNET FREEDOM

That makes TWO groups I think should be started. The other one, which I've discussed with a few people already, is one on optimizing modes of getting the truth (as opposed to the corporate media propaganda) out to the public who do NOT use the internet as their source of information as well as organizing LTTE and other campaigns to blast lawmakers, newspapers and other media.

At first I thought this Preserving Internet Freedom Group could be part of the other group, but the more I think of it, the more I believe it should stand alone. The Media Forum would seem to be the natural place to put it. What do you people think?

[stpalm]

80. LOL

dumbasses! I hope they fight until their site breaks apart.

[BikeWriter]

83. ROFLOL! :-)

[Pam-Moby]

86. That is so funny. This is a good

example of eating their own. LMBO

[deadparrot]

88. Probably the first and last time I'll ever agree with Hannity.

[dolo amber]

116. I can't believe it took 88 posts for someone to say that

My thoughts exactly. :toast:

[njdemocrat106]

89. Hannity's a moran

He's cannibalizing his own fan base. We hate him enough; now the Freepers hate him?

[RaleighNCDUer]

170. But his corporate bosses love him. n/t

[bowens43]

90. Hard to believe that the freeps are up to over 1000 posts on this

I guess Hannity really hurt their feelings.

[Demrock6]

91. Good times! n/t

[mwb970]

92. Wow, I'm surprised

I was sort of lumping Slanthead & the Freepers (great rock band name) together. Guess it's time to rearrange my mental furniture.

Hannity still makes me sick, though.

[miss_kitty]

94. reminds me of the shit flinging the dems and other lefties

did/are doing to Nader. Exactly. The. Same.

[sasquatch]

95. I think Hannity has been sampling "Daddy Rush's little blues"

I hate to tell you Shawn but, opiates make you constapated.
:hurts:

[yankeedem]

98. I like this one

To: 1Old Pro
Heard him plugging his site and trying to pull the "reasonable" Freepers to it. I immediately changed the station and promised myself never to watch his show or listen to him ever again.

I was already starting to tune in less. Those words cinched it. Shameless.

Toddly
152 posted on 02/16/2005 12:24:34 PM PST by toddly

Reasonable freeper? Would that be an "oxymoran"?

[stanwyck]

99. It's all about the money

and wingnuts going to FreeRepublic mean wingnuts NOT going to Hannity's site.
The field has become too crowded...too many wingnuts trying to cash in. They've flooded their market. So, they will begin eating their own. It's wingnut vs. wingnut for the measly dollars left. You can't afford BOTH Ann Coulter's latest book AND O'Reilly's latest screed...so, you have to choose.
Free enterprise, baby.

[Book Lover]

102. That thread is *hy*sterical!

I can't believe there was a post on the FR thread saying that it was basically true. How long before Jim blasts that person out of the water?

[paineinthearse]

103. Hannity eats his young....

[crispini]

105. Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasty.

I am SO stealing that. :evilgrin:

[candy]

106. Hysterical

[AlCzervik]

109. i knew it would get around to blaming the Clinton's

To: KMAJ2; Mo1; writer33; governsleastgovernsbest; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; JustaCowgirl; ken5050; ...


Could there be a Hannity -- Gannon -- Clinton Connection?

Hannity's comment about FReepers eating one's own taken to a higher level:

GOP eating their own

DNC/Clintons eating GOP.

One wonders, in light of how Mr. Gannon was just treated, whether this carefully-planned event was in fact a Hannity response to some sort of offer he "couldn't refuse" and packaged to LOOK like a commercial pitch.

Meanwhile, remember that there are those who are watching this very thread, licking their chops and looking for NEW ammo. Please, all, let us be extremely wise with minimal comments and REFUSE to eat our own--including, usually, Hannity.

Let's focus back on what other scandals are happening. This is not a fatal wound to FR. It is a typical MSM/DNC diversionary/divide-and-conquer tactic to hurt an important GOP/Conservative resource. Let's refuse to let this happen.

I smell a Clinton/Dean/McAuliffe/Soros/DNC/??? Rat in ALL of this.
1,373 posted on 02/16/2005 3:52:21 PM PST by Blurblogger (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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[bowens43]

111. Wow. Clinton's fault.

This is truly amazing. It's hilarious that they can't understand why even right wing nut jobs like Hannity consider them to be the lunatic fringe.

These idiot's are so far out there that fringe doesn't come close to describing them. Hannity was being generous.

[AlCzervik]

114. isn't that something?? crazy ass mofos they are.

[nickgutierrez]

129. The Clinton comment was pretty funny, BUT...

His sig line is priceless.

"The Republican party are not communist! We only use the color red because it's purty!!!11"

[AlCzervik]

147. holy shyte, thats hilarious!!!!

although when i think of how many firearms he probably owns it's a litlle scary.

[monobrau]

146. This deluded individual probably owns a firearm

Frightning whan you think about it. I picture him running girl scout cookie sellers off his porch with a shotgun, screaming "git off ma land!".

[Bouncy Ball]

206. BWA!!!!!

Oh they have GOT to stop making me laugh so hard. I just got over a horrible stomach bug and my entire ribcage is still so sore from puking my guts up for so long and laughing like this hurts! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL LMAO.

I have tears running down my face. Oh yes, Clinton BOUGHT HIM OFF!

Is there no END to their paranoia?

[RetroLounge]

113. Okay, now this is funny

One Asshat pissing off all his Asshat neo-con cultists and then those Asshats attacking Sean Insanity right back.

Sit back, watch the fun, and dig in...



RL

[yorkiemommie1]

115. go enlist, go enlist, go enlist go enlist

funny how not ONE patriotic bush voter i know has gone and enlisted! funny how not ONE patriotic bush voter's kids have enlisted!!!

funny how MY family has fought in world wars and vietnam. NO nobody in iraq because all toddlers...waiting to grow up to fight in BFEE's future *ups in the ME.

:puke:

[Nitrogenica]

118. HA HA HA HA!!!!!

4 HA's for this one.

[Don1]

120. Freepers Gone Wild

To: BlessedBeGod
As I would peak in on The Sean over the years, I noticed he was always a little more full of himself than the previous time, and more of an elitist hick, parasytical-GOP-drone who didn't pull it off nearly as well as Rush did/does.



1,567 posted on 02/16/2005 4:50:00 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
===============================================

So is he trying to say that Rush is better at being a GOP drone?? Now if he thinks hicks are elitists, what does that say about his own background?

[Shredr]

121. LOL!!

That's brilliant. Now maybe they'll implode.

[AlCzervik]

122. here is the audio clip

http://www.freepgs.com/mcgruff/audio/HannityOnFR.mp3

[Endangered Specie]

124. AH HAHAHAHAHHA!

that is just too priceless.
It isnt nearly as funny until you hear it from the horses mouth!

*Bookmarking*

[nickgutierrez]

127. That loud crashing sound you hear?

Yeah, that sound is the FReepers, trying to eat themselves while at the same time denying the eating themselves trend.

The most unintentionally funny quote from that thread:

"I guess Tony Snow and Rush are on the fringe as well.

Well, since you mentioned it... yeah, they are.

[crispini]

157. ROTFLMAO!

Oh, that's BEAUTIFUL. Even better when you hear it! Wooo!

[Left Is Write]

126. For once, I agree with Hannity.

[realisticphish]

128. holy crap, almost 1700 posts

have we EVER had a thread that big? The "my name is" one got big, but that was actually moving, while this is a big whine-fest about a media whore who doesnt like freepville


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[Bake]

130. I love this one:

To: 1Old Pro
This coming from a guy who frequently has Ann Coulter and Pat Robertson on. If we're fringe what are they?



62 posted on 02/16/2005 12:19:23 PM PST by Borges


Uh, Borges, guess what? THEY'RE FRINGE TOO, ASSHOLE!!!

Bake

[creeksneakers2]

131. I heard something on Limbaugh today

bashing RW bloggers...so this is widespread. I have a couple of theories. One is, like Limbaugh said, they don't want people going out on their own, but would rather have the professionals handle the propaganda.

More likely, I've heard pieces and snippets that sound like the MSM is quietly very angry about that CNN executive that lost his job. At some point MSM journalists are going to have to face the fact that the RWs are out to destroy them. This may have woken them up. Limbaugh did mention it.

Another RW attempt to blame the net rather than take responsibility themselves?

[Don1]

159. Interesting Theory

OK. So now both Limbaugh AND Hannity are criticizing RW bloggers. I think it may be a concerted effort.

Do you think it is possible that this is preparation to disavow Gannon? In other words, later when the sh*t hits the fan, RW pundits can always say, "Yes, but we were always against crazy bloggers. See, look at this transcript."

[Feathered Fish]

133. Post 30: watching a car chase on Fox

To: 1Old Pro
fringe people?

They aren't related to shadow people, by chance?

I'm watching a car chase on Fox and listening to Jeff Katz on KNEW 910 san Francisco myself.


30 posted on 02/16/2005 12:15:42 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)

Too funny. :D

[walldude]

143. You know, it's been a pretty good week for liberals

While alot of the stories coming out are being buried by the MSM, it's still nice to be vindicated.

As far as the folks worrying about the Internet. Don't. Look around you, the net is not U.S. owned and operated, they don't call it the World Wide Web for nothing. Thats why there is a ton of backlash right now. They are scared shitless. In Wolf Blitzer's "interview" with Gannon he said he "didn't know what a blogger was". Today he announced his own blog. Dork. The government can attempt to regulate, tax, protect or do whatever they want to the internet, 15 minutes after they implement their plan the hackers, crackers, geeks and pirates will have a way around it. The net is here to stay and while the government may have some well paid hackers working for them, the "real" hackers do it because they love it. Any time you have two factions fighting and one is in it for the money while the other is in it for the ideology, the money guys will lose their ass every time.

[dweller]

160. that needed to be said, and you've done that.

:thumbsup:


please, forget the 'taking down the internet' fears...just imagine: where would all the spam go? what kind of hit would that make on the economy, how would the govt communicate (yes they do use the internet) and most importantly, what would be the first reaction from the hacker/geek/tech segment? But to crack it, develop it and get it up and running independently again.

telnet,
dp

[Bouncy Ball]

207. THAT'S RIGHT!!! AND Cheney himself

said during the campaign that people selling stuff on eBay helps the economy!!!!!!

And don't forget Bottle Return Moguls!!!!

LOL!!!

[Erika]

136. Freepers believe they kept John Kerry out of the WH!

Talk about overblown sense of importance! This is so funny.

[dw]

137. Hey, we are NOT eating our own, so stop saying that!

1,731 posted on 02/16/2005 5:38:38 PM PST by mercy (20 years a Gates sucker was enough!):

... Somebody on FR dished The Great Sean some shit and now the whole site is worthy of his contempt.

Thus he proves he is a self promoting piece of shit with no regard for The Cause.

I curse you Sean Hannity for the traitor you are. Conservatism is just a way to make a buck for you. It is obvious. Give my regards to lizardhead.

Rush is no better. He promots only himself.

[Erika]

138. How funny!

Don't they realize the only core of conservatism is the need to feed one's own pocketbook, and the rest of the country be damned?

[Geek_Girl]

140. Conservatism stands for

every man for himself. I guess the freepers haven't learned that lesson yet.

[Bouncy Ball]

208. Lizardhead? Is that what Hannity calls his.......??? Nevermind.

[HeatherG.]

144. That's a Surprise

I would have thought Hannity would be more likely to praise Free Republic. He is similar to the freepers because of his nastiness, the way he deliberately distorts things, and the way he runs his mouth on subjects he knows nothing about.

[Democrat Dragon]

152. HAW HAW!

[Fridays Child]

162. Do they finally feel like the dirty little whores they are?

Underneath the shrill ideology of their icons it is, and always was, about the money.

Hey, freepers, Hannity, never really loved you. He was just pimping you.

[Fridays Child]

165. By the way. this is SO BIG at FR that it's been pinned to the top...

...each freeper's personal "In Forum" page.

:evilgrin:

[Vogon_Glory]

166. I Enjoyed One Freeperstani Comment

I confess that I enjoyed one Freeperstani comment: the poster described the Hannity lad as an "egotistical bore only interested in selling his own books."

If said poster is currently silently trolling DU, all I've got to say to said poster is:

:toast: :bounce: :toast: :bounce: :toast: :bounce: :toast: :bounce: :party:

OK, truce over. Back to the wars.

[Not_Giving_Up]

171. Silly little Freepers

Did they really think that any member of the media was truely their friend?

While it's fun to watch them beat up on one that they thought of as their own, they are completely missing the point (as usual). The more powerful the "nutjobs on the internets" become, the more afraid the righties become. Of course, they also fail to realize that when you criticize a website (or book, or movie), it gets more attention than ever. People who never went to a political site before had to check in on the crazy people, just to see what they were saying. Maybe to laugh at them, but just a peek. Some of them started to read things that opened their eyes. Brain cells whirred to life that had not been used in years. WE GOT THEIR ATTENTION, but in a good way, not at all what the righties had intended.

Hannity doesn't want to be associated with Freeperville anymore because the tide is about to turn. People are going to see what nutballs THEY are, while we seem to make more and more sense to them. This is extremely bad for righties, and you can bet that Freedom of Speech is about to be something that has to be fought for like never before in this country.

[Az]

174. Pure hypocritical magic

In the middle of a 2000+ hate fest one of them posts this magical line:

I like this place because it is Not like DU, where any type of speech goes, usually hate speech. Hate, looks good on nobody.

[The_Nick]

178. In all fairness, despite the vitrol they spew at this site......

Stop bashing the freepers. I really and truly do feel bad for them in spite of all they have blindly approved of. This is the kind of thing that would make normal people ask questions, and we should actually be there for them to explain to them what's going on around them regarding the mainstream media and the government. I don't post often at DU, because sometimes DU can be an exact political mirror (in the comments) as FR. However, DU stepped up for Ward Churchill and many other progressive causes and I think it's time I started posting here more often. Dean is the best thing for the democrats in the last 25 years and I hope beyond hope that people like he and Sen. Boxer will work to transform the democratic party into a solid bloc of voters who don't care about partisanship and only seek the truth. This is something, I think at their core, that freepers are after too, and they need our help when confronted with the blatant hypocracy of their party that's currently running rampant.

[Bouncy Ball]

209. They need our help Nick?

Then go on over there and help them! What's stopping you?

Have fun! Don't forget the Lysol!

[fob]

179. Those motherguckerts deserve each other.

I can't believe it took over 150 posts for Nelson to show up in this thread either. Let's tighten it up people!!

:evilgrin:

[Nothing Without Hope]

182. ***TRANSFERRED POSTS ON PRESERVING INTERNET FREEDOM TO A NEW THREAD***

I transferred the posts in this thread dealing with threats to internet freedom to a new thread in the Media Forum here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=109x18717

The OP is the mother of all OP, because I transferred all the relevant posts from the Hannity thread in the Lounge. I hope people aren't so overwhelmed by this mass of text that they avoid this thread.

I do believe that we need a DU group called something like "Preserving Internet Freedom" to tackle the whole issue of watchdogging and brainstorming ways to counter the anticipated attack from the administration. I believe this to be vital. How do you people feel about this?

[sojourner]

227. Absolutely essential IMO

Your posts capture something that has been tickling the back of my own mind for the past few months. I've heard (but can't now recall precisely when, where or through whom) some ominous rumbles that sound to me like the fixin's of a campaign to "control" the internet. So far it's all been pretty low key, as one would expect in the beginning of such a campaign.

I'll be checking in to your diary -- hope there are enough folks alert to the dangers looming. Considering that only the Internet allows us to communicate enmasse, I think the Powers That Be are terrified of the power it gives the people (and rightly so).

[Nothing Without Hope]

229. Thank you Sojourner. I hope we can gather enough interest and momentum

You've already posted on the newer thread, but I really like this post here too. Would you be willing to repost it on the new thread? It's here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=109x18717

Thank you in any case.

[Jamastiene]

183. I love it.

Divide and conquer. Let's let 'em rip each other apart and sit back with a nice glass (or plate) of (fill in your favorite food and/or drink here) and enjoy. Hey, someone please pass a handful of popcorn my way. I know someone here likes it and I'll break my unfortunate rule about eating my ex-beloved snack because of my teeth to watch right wingers ripping and gnashing each other. Should we place bets?

[BlackVelvetElvis]

184. The only thing Hannity cares about

Is directing internet traffic to his message board.
More $$$ in his pocket, I'll bet.

[PittPoliSci]

186. that's funny shit.

To: Always Right
I guess Tony Snow and Rush are on the fringe as well.
22 posted on 02/16/2005 12:14:59 PM PST by jasoncann



To: 1Old Pro
Fringe? I am not fringe! When do we start the attack?



9 posted on 02/16/2005 12:13:58 PM PST by Always Right

[Flagg]

188. Keywords:

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LOL

[B Calm]

189. Baby Jesus put his foot in his mouth, but then all right-wing

talk show hosts do that on an everyday basis. It is comical though..

[LynneSin]

193. If I were Jimbo at the Free Republic....

...I would wipe out every trace of Sean Hannity except a boycott notice on my home page.

I'm not a fan of FR, but clearly Sean Hannity is trying to pull members of FR over to his own website forum. For someone like FR owner Jim Robinson I'm sure Free Republic is not a source of wealth but he probably makes enough money to keep the site a float and make a small income. But to Sean Hannity - a web forum is just another form of income for someone who writes books, does a TV show, radio show and guest lectures. Hannity is looking for more money and sees the members of FR as another source of income he could be making.

Let's face it - Hannity is who he is because of the reputation he built through organizations like Free Republic. And personally I think they should drop him dead cold in the water - stop watching his show, buying his books (although they're probably bulked) and doing anything else that could profit Hannity.

FR made hannity and they can break him too!

[hoosierblue]

194. Almost laughable

Hannity really only wants them to go to HIS site.

See, the thing Freepers didn't realize was: when it comes to the bottom line, you're expendable. Never mess with a conservative journalist with an ego. Their ego is more important.

With these bozos in the media, can someone remind me why we can't get air time for the Gannon Story again?

[Orsino]

195. He thinks freepers are childish because...

...they are suckers who roll over for the corporatist agenda for free, against their own economic interests.

Hannity, in contrast, is mature enough to collect a large salary to flog the same agenda, when it matches his own interests.

when will the freeps wake up and realize that they are welcome at this party only as waiters?

[ProfessorGAC]

197. Oh, Not Just As Waiters

They can park cars, hang coats, clean up any spills, fetch more wine, wash the dishes, and things like that, too!
The Professor

[Orsino]

215. "Gee, Wally...

...I guess the American way really *is* best!"

[Roland99]

200. OMFG!! LMFAO!!! This is TOOOO Fucking Funny!!!!

What a bunch of morans!!!

[Goathead]

203. Me thinks there are some subversive agitators...

stirring up the pot over there.

I can't BELIEVE what he just said about us!!!!!

"tendency to eat their own"???????

"engage in petty squabbling"???????

%^*^#!@% to YOU HANNITY!

Anybody care to fess up? Who ever it is, keep it up. This is hilarious watching them come apart at the seams.

[hyphenate]

210. Fuck!

That is so funny!

These people, who we already knew were in denial, are even further separated from reality. You know things are pretty bad when they start eating their own at such a rapid pace.

[UCLA Dem]

212. Too funny!!!

[PROGRESSIVE1]

216. What promted Hitler Hannity to say that?

[AlCzervik]

217. i think it's because Gannon was a poster there

and they featured his "News" articles all the time and promoted his radio show. Gannon also just posted there like a regular freeper.

[Zuni]

218. I think some of the FReepers are right--Hannity doing it for $$$$$

Hannity wants to get more posters on his own board---he was essentially promoting his own board when he trashed FR---said his own board weeds out the 'fringe element'.

[DaDeacon]

221. WOW

Look at this one,

To: 1Old Pro

hannity is a sellout. I new him for a fraud the day I began listening to the Savge Nation.

50 posted on 02/16/2005 12:18:30 PM PST by southparkNationalist
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Damn, what a fool!!!

[ananda]

222. pot-kettle

black.

Hannity criticizing freepers... oh pleezze.

Sue

[realisticphish]

228. THREE THOUSAND POSTS

holy jesus

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat