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HalfManHalfBiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:05 PM
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Poll question: Better Guitarist Than Jack White?


Certainly no one alive today.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:07 PM
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1. The Edge...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
sorry, I couldn't resist :evilgrin:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:18 PM
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8. WATCH OUT! THE EDGE WILL CUT YOU!
Sorry... I couldn't resist.

Plus, I'm trying to forget about all the evil, hypocritical, hateful, "Christian" people in this country.

:cry:
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:21 PM
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11. yeah, I used to think names like "the Edge" and Spike were cool, and then
i turned 12 :evilgrin: sorry about the evil "x-tians", they're everywhere, even in MA (I just had an encounter with a few x-tian taliban yesterday night in Boston).
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kariatari Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:52 PM
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39. That joke would be funny if you hadn't used it before.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:25 AM
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53. au contraire, it wouldn't be funny if it weren't true. it will always be
funny, because it is true.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:09 PM
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2. Tom Verlaine could whip his ass, for one (nt)
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 07:21 PM
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24. Tom Verlaine
yes!
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Osamasux Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:08 PM
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33. As could Richard Lloyd.
Television is touring again, btw. :headbang:
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:10 PM
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3. George Thoroughgood
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:11 PM
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4. David Gilmour
And just about anyone else you can name...
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:21 PM
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22. Gilmour, Henderson and Page are better, definitely.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:15 PM
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5. Me.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:17 PM
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6. That's true - and I've never heard you play
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:17 PM
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7. Thurston Moore
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:19 PM
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9. I loved his cover of "Jolene"
Just wanted to say that... :)
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:20 PM
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10. Eh, don't see that being true . . .
Anyone in Opeth, Shadows Fall or Mastodon would smoke him like a biznatch. And unless Pat Metheny died recently . . . er, NO.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:16 PM
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20. MASTODON
i have probably listened to leviathan at least once every day since it came out

damn good album
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:36 PM
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12. Slash
You may hate Axl's voice, but Slash is awesome.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 07:22 PM
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25. uh I have a thing for Slash
he's no Hendrix though.
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:42 PM
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13. E.C. is god
Slowhand, baby.
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:46 PM
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14. Ahem...
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:27 AM
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54. Grafitti found in London in 1964?
"Eric Clapton is god"

Sorta pre-dates whoever that is.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:58 PM
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15. B.B King, not only is he a better guitarist
but he's a better blues guitarist as well. Also that Kenny-something fellow was pretty good. What was his last name again?

Still I think Jack white is a good song-writer who has an unfortunate habit of trying to dress like a younger Robert Smith (Who also has an unfortunate habit of trying to dress like a younger Robert Smith) and definitely a better guitarist than me. (I sing better though)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:01 PM
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16. Is Jack White really considered a GREAT guitarist?
I must be confusing them with the Strokes but both sound(ed) pretty much the same to me. No guitarist I but it sounded to me just like strumming no Alvin Lee type riffs.

Maybe I am wrong.
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HalfManHalfBiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 07:57 PM
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27. Rolling Stone has him at #17 for what it's worth
They put the Edge all the way up to #24, so I can't give this list too much creedence.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/5937559?rnd=1108860798780&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.1040

1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:03 PM
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31. This list is a joke..
Johnny Ramone AND Jack White better guitar players than Richard Thompson and Tom Verlaine???? Good God...
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HalfManHalfBiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:10 PM
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34. True, they stiffed Joan Jett
Number 87??

No way. Top 20.
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Hatalles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:28 PM
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37. No Joe Satriani?
Blasphemy.
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HalfManHalfBiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:39 PM
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38. Spare me
The master of the Pan Flute guitar.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:23 AM
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52. You Obivously Are Clueless About Guitar
Your last post cemented what i believed after i read your original post.
The Professor
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HalfManHalfBiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:35 PM
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56. Sorry, he does play some sweet elevator music
Didn't Satriani play on "Walking on Sunshine"? Or mabye it was the commercial for Ford trucks.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:35 PM
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59. Neither
Like i said.

The Professor
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:02 AM
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42. J White and Cobain being so high on that list = RS wanted to sell issues
also to not insult the new school. I mean come ON. You're going to tell me those two are better than Zappa, Fripp, Townshend or Van Halen?

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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:36 PM
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57. I feel the same way about Cobain as I do about J Ramone on that list.
Great songwriters, but honestly it doesn't take much skill to play their music. It's all barre chords. Stuff like The Ramones and Nirvana is what I started playing when I first started learning the guitar.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:21 AM
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45. Alvin Lee didn't make the top 100?
Am I missing something?
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:31 PM
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55. Randy Rhodes at 85? ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME?
It's official, that list is CRAP!
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:01 PM
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17. He plays simple blues riffs in open-E.
Which he learned from Tom Potter. Who learned from Don Howland. Who learned from Skip James. Howland and Potter are better guitarists than White; James is long dead, but he was better as well.

Jack's a good showman, he really knows how to work the stage. But he's not a great guitarist.
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HalfManHalfBiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:00 PM
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30. You obviously know more than me
About music history and theory, so I can't argue.

I was just blown away both times I've seen the White Stripes and just got their live Blackpool DVD. Amazing.

He plays lead, rythym, and bass simultaneously. With great energy. Mabye it is simple pedal gimmicks or someone behind the stage playing with him. I just haven't seen something that awesome since Johnny Ramone.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:12 PM
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18. ROFLMAO
How about:

Charlie Hunter
John Scofield
Wes Montgomery
Joe Pass
Django Reinhardt
Chet Atkins
Robert Johnson
Leo Nocentelli
Allan Holdsworth
John McLaughlin
Kenny Burrell and
Al DiMeola, just to name a few.

Geez, Jack White isn't even remotely close in talent to any of those.
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Osamasux Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:12 PM
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36. That's a nice list.
Hopin got catch Holdsworth on this tour. Joe Pass bores me sometimes, but his chops were solid.
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:17 AM
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44. ditto - good list
and don't forget George Barnes, Junior Brown and Jimmy Rosenberg

I get pretty dismayed at MSM's hypnotic effect when it comes to music (especially 'guitarists') on this board... what's up with that?

Tut-tut
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:09 AM
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50. It just shows how many great musicians are out there that never
are heard by the masses.

I just shot a few names off that came to me right away, but the list of great unrecognized guitarists can go on forever. I'm a giant fan of Junior Brown.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:14 PM
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19. Steve Howe and for that matter me
he sucks.
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:19 PM
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21. Danny Keady
he is not a sociopath,just a great guitar player.
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Calico Jack Rackham Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:35 PM
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23. This Guy
Edited on Wed Feb-16-05 05:39 PM by Calico Jack Rackham




Mike Ness

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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 07:47 PM
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Jeff Beck,Eric Clapton,Eddie Van Halen
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 07:47 PM
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26. Jeff Beck,Eric Clapton,Eddie Van Halen
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miss aster Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 09:14 PM
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28. Henry Garza
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Leftist78 Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 09:25 PM
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29. Anyone
who's been playing guitar for more than 2 years.

He sucks!
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:12 PM
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35. I picked Hendrix...
...but that little Jack White impresses this old granny.
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HR_Pufnstuf Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:57 PM
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40. Living?
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Emops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:16 AM
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41. Jimi Hendrix is a better guitarist than Jack White.
And I mean it when I say "is." Hendrix's decayed corpse could outplay Jack White.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:07 AM
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43. Jimmy Page - nuff said
:D
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:23 AM
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46. Most everyone mentined above, and I gotta say Trey Anastasio
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:55 AM
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47. list...too...long..to...name...struggling...for...ee...energy n/t
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:11 AM
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48. I Don't Have Time For A List That Long
The Professor
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fit4life Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:12 AM
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49. Michael Angelo
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Hell in a Handbasket Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:14 AM
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51. oh, for goodness sake.
eric clapton
jimi hendrix
jerry garcia
and the list goes on.


:shrug:
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Boswells_Johnson Donating Member (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:41 PM
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58. Richard Thompson, Ritchie Blackmore, Steve Morse, Robbie Robertson...
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:50 PM
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60. I love him but he's not all that great.
He plays with a lot of passion, that's the important thing. I bet even Jack would shy away from being called great. That's not what he's about.

I'd say a better word for his playing is "Arresting".
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