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3lefts Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 07:43 AM
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Lee Harvey Oswald...
Saw him mentioned in another thread and thought I would ask the question (apologies if this has already been discussed ad nauseum, but I'm new)....

Did Oswald act alone?

I used to have doubts that he did, but am now convinced that he did. Saw two different shows (History channel and I believe Discovery) that used todays technology to recreate the scene and recreate the Zapruder film that convinced me that he did exactly what the Warren commision said. Thought it was pretty amazing that they (the Warren commission) came to that conclusion not having any of the technology available that we do today. Olive Stone really took license with the events that happened that day. Will never watch that film again. Sorry I did in the first place.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 07:51 AM
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1. No, he did not act alone....................
and those "experts" who used "today's technology" wouldn't have any reason to falsify test results, would they? When the entire facade of our government is at stake, you bet they would.

Oswald must have been the luckiest man in the world. Dozens of sharpshooters, snipers etc. have tried to duplicate Oswald's fete from the Texas School Book Depository window, and not one has even come close. They all say it's impossible. Like I said, Oswald must have been the luckiest man alive that day.

Or not.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 08:08 AM
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3. I am a good enough shot to do this.
Or I used to be.

The question is could I fire that weapon at that rate?

I lean heavily towards the single shooter, acting alone, but getting his orders from others.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 08:06 AM
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2. Coming around to the argument that he did act alone
I have been a multiple shooter theorist for a long time. But I recently saw an argument that really puts the magic bullet to rest. I am still mighty suspicious but the conspiracy theory is beginning to fall apart.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:01 AM
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4. Readers' Digest, March 2005 issue - EVERYONE needs to read it.
Evidence suggests that 4 shots were confirmed, and possibly a 5th thanks to new technology and pattern matching techniques.

More than LHO was prepared to kill the 20th Century's most honorable president since FDR (except for the womanizing bit, but nobody's perfect and the repukes in office always seem to do far worse things...)
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:07 AM
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5. I Saw That Too
The 5th shot potential was what did it for me. The acousticians who "debunked" the open radio thing (because his motorcycle was 100 yards from where it would need to be to have no reflection sound like a 4th shot), had nothing to explain there results if there was a 5th shot.

There's just too much scatter in the data for anyone to be fully convinced of a single shooter.

I also saw that bit about the "magic bullet". I watched it carefully. I don't buy it. It still doesn't explain the lack of bullet damage, (they claimed it did, but i don't see how they could say that).

The "head back and to the left" thing; i've never been fully convinced. It's really hard to see in the Zapruder which is the first direction of the head. So, i don't think the kill shot was necessarily from the front.

But, there are too many unanswered anomalies for me to be convinced that the Warren Report got it right.
The Professor
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:23 AM
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10. Sorry - I don't consider RD to be a reliable source. They will pretty
much print anything as long as it sells magazines. Also, I have never forgiven them for the hatchet job they did on Mike Dukakis with the Willy Horton "story".
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:09 AM
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6. I don't think he was alone
I'm not even convinced he was on the 6th floor.
What would have happened if JFK didn't decide to take the top down on the car? Would Oswald have taken that big of a risk if he was alone? If it was a team of shooters they could have called it off and walked away. I have only recently been thinking about this, but I don't know why. It just gives me a new thing to think about. The whole assassination had to do if that top was up or down.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:18 AM
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7. No the kill shot came from the sewer drain to the front right of JFK's car
I saw a great PBS documentary on it a few years ago in which a ballistics expert showed that the kill shot had to come from the frontright and below were JFK was. It went on to show that the huge drainage pipe offered the perfect getaway.

Oswald was a ready made patsy. He craved attention and was so twisted around that he was perfect for the blame. He probably did realize that he was set up. They had his name and description ready to go way too fast-even for the communication age we live in now let alone in the early 60's.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:19 AM
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8. I think this is a little beyond the scope of a discussion thread......
There are probably college courses on this - certainly lots of books. Doubt we will shed much light on it here.....my 2 cents.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:23 AM
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9. One curious item I noticed when visiting the book depository
building, which is now a museum/tourist attraction in Dallas, was that the window where Oswald supposedly shot Kennedy from is enclosed in glass. You are not able to actually walk up and look out the window to determine LHO's shooting angle. Others have told me this is incorrect and the window is accessible but I know on my visit it was closed off. :shrug:

I'm curious if anyone has been there recently to confirm either way.

I do not think he acted alone.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:52 AM
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11. Did he kill Kennedy? Yes. Did he act alone? *shrug*
I'm a good enough shot to have done what he did, but whetherhe was a 'lone nut', or just the gunman in a larger consipiracy, i can't say.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:25 AM
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12. no way Oswald acted alone
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 10:27 AM by amazona
Oswald didn't kill himself live on TV in the Dallas police station all on his own efforts.

Common sense, people.

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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:30 AM
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13. He acted alone
It is easy for someone to fire that many shots in such a short period of time. The History Channel did a good documentary on this; I don't recall what it was called but it aired a couple of months ago. It showed how a bullet could curve like it did and it showed an old man fire the amount of shots Oswald did in the same period of time.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:36 AM
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14. Read Norman Mailer's "Oswald's Tale."
Not so much for JFK assassination theories, but for the truly strange and sordid story of the life of LHO.

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