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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:29 PM
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I'm cutting way back on my sugar consumption in the hope of losing weight.
Right now, though, I really, really want to drive to the convenience store for a pint of Ben & Jerry's. So far, I've been able to fight the urge, but I surely would appreciate any words of encouragement y'all could send my way!
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:31 PM
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1. Good luck!
And, in case you really, really need it ... the low-carb B&J's is really, really good and it's made with Splenda, so no sugar!
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:36 PM
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2. sugar is harder to kick than any known substance.
My wife is a salt freak and doesn't have cravings for sweats,all I want is sugar ......... If you can cut back on soda it helps.
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:41 PM
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3. exercise my friend, exercise...
...the human body finds its own equilibrium and exercise affects the metabolic rate. Exercise burns the calories. That's a gross over-simplification but quite true.

I'm lucky, one of those gits who can eat like a horse and not get overweight. If I didn't lead a lifestyle that includes a lot of outdoor activity I might be a tad rounder though.

I sympathise with you; must be a pain having to go on a diet.
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:50 PM
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7. DAMN YOU HIGH METABOLISM PEOPLE!
damn you to hell! :D

damn high metabolism people mutter mutter mutter bitch bitch bitch...

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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 07:04 PM
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12. lol. I'm 12 stone and 5' 11'
I'm in my mid 40's and I've been this weight for over 10 years. I have a 32 inch waist...but I probably need a 34...too vain to go for the comfort fit!
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:00 PM
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22. *shakes fist impotently*
guh. what exactly is 12 stone, anyways? what equivalent weight is it?
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:08 PM
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23. 12 times 14 lbs
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:51 PM
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31. oh, ok.
i know that stone is used in ireland and britain, correct?

that answers my question.
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:02 PM
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32. yeah.
10 stone 7 is 147 lbs, eg.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:42 PM
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4. It'll pass
Drink some tea. Rent a good movie. Think of how fabulous you'll look.
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MidwestMomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:43 PM
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5. Hang in there...
I'm trying the same thing. It's very hard but if I can do it, anyone can.

I really like the new ice cream and ice cream treats with Splenda.

It's hard to break the sugar dependency habit but in the long run you end up with more energy.

But in the short run, it feels like you are completely energy-deprived.

:hug:
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:46 PM
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6. Walk to the convenience store . . .
. . . and get some sunflower seeds instead!
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:50 PM
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8. I'm in the same boat. Good luck to you.
I quit smoking and now I want to eat everything I can find.

The first thing I did was drop from 4 mountain dews a day to one.

Plus I stopped eating Ho Ho's, etc. for breakfast and started eating yogurt and granola bars.

and I got a treadmill I sometimes even use.

Hang in there and good luck.

RL
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 07:08 PM
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14. Thanks!
Both for the advice and for not holding a grudge over today's "Rap" flamewar. :eyes:
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 07:18 PM
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18. I respect you and your music knowledge too much
to hold a grudge...

:hi:

RL
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 07:34 PM
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20. And I yours!
Not to mention that you're an actual musician, which I'm not.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:24 PM
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27. actual FORMER musician
:D

The Les Paul has been in the case for a few years now...

RL
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:53 PM
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9. Corn syrup is worse than sugar.
Don't eat anything with corn syrup in it.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:56 PM
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10. Switch to Splenda
plus no cal Jello, lo carb ice cream treats, - use lo carb bread for sandwiches, cut out pasta, potatoes - walk more and watch the pounds drop away.

Make your own candy for emergencies - 1/4+ cup splenda, 2 squares of dark bittersweet chocolate, 2+ Tablespoons butter - melt in micro - add 1T cream and 1/4 t. flavored extract of choice (I like orange or vanilla) - Put dollops on waxed paper and pop in freezer. Handy for those "I gotta have chocolate" moments. Also can add pecans, walnuts etc.

Good luck
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 07:08 PM
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15. Yea I always make candy when I'm trying to lose weight
:o
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:58 PM
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11. You can't go off sugar like that. You have to taper off.
Cutting way back all at once leads to the unbearable cravings.
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sleepyhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 07:06 PM
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13. Make sure you are getting enough protein.
I have never had much of a sweet tooth, but I find that when I haven't had enough protein, I get wicked cravings. And DRINK WATER. You should be drinking the same number of ounces of water as your weight in pounds. In other words, if I weighed 120 pounds (HA!) I would need to drink 120 ounces of water a day. That does not mean juice, or milk, or coffee, or soda (even diet soda) - plain water. Get yourself a nice water bottle to carry around with you all day and keep it full. That helps to burn fat and also keeps the cravings at bay.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 07:13 PM
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16. Sugar free jelly bellies (in moderation) while you kick the sugar cravings
Don't pig out on them though, as they can have a laxative effect if you do. But they did help me alot when that "gotta have sugar" monster took over.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 07:17 PM
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17. you can't walk to the store ?
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 07:34 PM
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21. The store is seven miles away and it's 20 degrees outside.
And I live in the middle of the woods!
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:33 PM
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28. then just say to yourself that you will have to walk there if you want it
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wovenpaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 07:33 PM
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19. Yikes! It's tough, I know
I went on South Beach diet last spring (and am gearing up to go again) First 2 weeks were no sugar and no bread!
Anyway, there was a great dessert that sounds kind of weird but was great and helped me when times were rough.
You take 1/3 cup of skim Ricotta cheese, stir in 1 pkg of Splenda (or less, to taste), 1 teaspoon of vanilla extract and I stirred in a little bit of grated chocolate from a small bar (Hide this and ration it out!!). I would put it in a glass ice cream sundae cup that made it LOOK bigger and then chilled it for after dinner.
It's like chocolate chip ice cream. It really took the edge off for me. You can also make the same thing with other flavor extracts-I used almond also.
Once you get used to it, it's not so bad...I lost 12# in 3 weeks that stayed off til winter- but have gained back most of it now due to my hibernating ways...sigh
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:12 PM
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24. Purge the sugar from your body and you will lose the cravings
Bitter vegetables, such as greens, spinach etc. work great. The trick is you have to give up all sweets for a day or two.

This past summer, I cut back on simple carbohydrates and my metabolism changed. I lost 25 pounds. Now, it seems no matter what I eat, I maintain the same weight.

I used to have a real problem with fluctuating blood sugar. It is much more stable now.
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:05 PM
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33. Yeah, don't you feel like sugar is a drug,
that keeps you wanting it? I too consume no sugar and few simple carbs
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General Zod Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:18 PM
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25. How often do you exercise?
I could never lose weight until I started running again. I went from 228 to 185 in about a year.
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:18 PM
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26. start by getting rid of starch first.
it's not a natural part of the human diet anyway.
(so how come it's the biggest part of the food pyramid?)

corn syrup is another one to avoid.

if you get rid of those two things, you can keep the ice cream. :bounce:
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:38 PM
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29. Sugar-Free Popsicles!
Great texture and taste, fills you up, and keeps the husband's attention at all times! What more could you ask from a diet food?
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:14 PM
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30. I have to eliminate sugar to lose weight.
I pretty much have to eliminate it to maintain my weight. I'm not rigid and I allow myself a treat sometimes, but very much in moderation. I used to be much heavier and I'm far more comfortable physically and emotionally now to NOT eat what I used to eat on a regular basis. At one point, I ate none for 8 months. Sugary stuff can be addictive for some of us. Often very low carbohydrate diets (for a period of time) can be effective to help break that. I now eat whole grains and fruits, but at first I was very strict about things. It's not easy at first, but ultimately I felt far better not only physically, but emotionally and mentally as well. I wish you the best.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:11 PM
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34. it's the high fructose corn syrup NOT sugar that is causing obesity.....
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 02:24 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
the murky world of high fructose corn syrup

http://www.westonaprice.org/motherlinda/cornsyrup.html

Think of sugar and you think of sugar cane or beets. Extraction of sugar from sugar cane spurred the colonization of the New World. Extraction of sugar from beets was developed during the time of Napoleon so that the French could have sugar in spite of the English trading blockade.

Nobody thinks of sugar when they see a field of corn. Most of us would be surprised to learn that the larger percentage of sweeteners used in processed food comes from corn, not sugar cane or beets.

The process for making the sweetener high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) out of corn was developed in the 1970s. Use of HFCS grew rapidly, from less than three million short tons in 1980 to almost 8 million short tons in 1995. During the late 1990s, use of sugar actually declined as it was eclipsed by HFCS. Today Americans consume more HFCS than sugar.

High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is produced by processing corn starch to yield glucose, and then processing the glucose to produce a high percentage of fructose. It all sounds rather simple—white cornstarch is turned into crystal clear syrup. However, the process is actually very complicated. Three different enzymes are needed to break down cornstarch, which is composed of chains of glucose molecules of almost infinite length, into the simple sugars glucose and fructose.

First, cornstarch is treated with alpha-amylase to produce shorter chains of sugars called polysaccharides. Alpha-amylase is industrially produced by a bacterium, usually Bacillus sp. It is purified and then shipped to HFCS manufacturers.

Next, an enzyme called glucoamylase breaks the sugar chains down even further to yield the simple sugar glucose. Unlike alpha-amylase, glucoamylase is produced by Aspergillus, a fungus, in a fermentation vat where one would likely see little balls of Aspergillus floating on the top.

The third enzyme, glucose-isomerase, is very expensive. It converts glucose to a mixture of about 42 percent fructose and 50-52 percent glucose with some other sugars mixed in. While alpha-amylase and glucoamylase are added directly to the slurry, pricey glucose-isomerase is packed into columns and the sugar mixture is then passed over it. Inexpensive alpha-amylase and glucoamylase are used only once, glucose-isomerase is reused until it loses most of its activity.

There are two more steps involved. First is a liquid chromatography step that takes the mixture to 90 percent fructose. Finally, this is back-blended with the original mixture to yield a final concentration of about 55 percent fructose—what the industry calls high fructose corn syrup.

HFCS has the exact same sweetness and taste as an equal amount of sucrose from cane or beet sugar but it is obviously much more complicated to make, involving vats of murky fermenting liquid, fungus and chemical tweaking, all of which take place in one of 16 chemical plants located in the Corn Belt. Yet in spite of all the special enzymes required, HFCS is actually cheaper than sugar. It is also very easy to transport—it's just piped into tanker trucks. This translates into lower costs and higher profits for food producers.

The development of the HFCS process came at an opportune time for corn growers. Refinements of the partial hydrogenation process had made it possible to get better shortenings and margarines out of soybeans than corn. HFCS took up the slack as demand for corn oil margarine declined. Lysine, an amino acid, can be produced from the corn residue after the glucose is removed. This is the modus operandi of the food conglomerates—break down commodities into their basic components and then put them back together again as processed food.

Today HFCS is used to sweeten jams, condiments like ketchup, and soft drinks. It is also a favorite ingredient in many so-called health foods. Four companies control 85 percent of the $2.6 billion business—Archer Daniels Midland, Cargill, Staley Manufacturing Co. and CPC International. In the mid-1990s, ADM was the object of an FBI probe into price fixing of three products—HFCS, citric acid and lysine—and consumers got a glimpse of the murky world of corporate manipulation.

There's a couple of other murky things that consumers should know about HFCS. According to a food technology expert, two of the enzymes used, alpha-amylase and glucose-isomerase, are genetically modified to make them more stable. Enzymes are actually very large proteins and through genetic modification specific amino acids in the enzymes are changed or replaced so the enzyme's "backbone" won't break down or unfold. This allows the industry to get the enzymes to higher temperatures before they become unstable.

Consumers trying to avoid genetically modified foods should avoid HFCS. It is almost certainly made from genetically modified corn and then it is processed with genetically modified enzymes. I've seen some estimates claiming that virtually everything—almost 80 percent—of what we eat today has been genetically modified at some point. Since the use of HFCS is so prevalent in processed foods, those figures may be right.

But there's another reason to avoid HFCS. Consumers may think that because it contains fructose—which they associate with fruit, which is a natural food—that it is healthier than sugar. A team of investigators at the USDA, led by Dr. Meira Field, has discovered that this just ain't so.

Sucrose is composed of glucose and fructose. When sugar is given to rats in high amounts, the rats develop multiple health problems, especially when the rats were deficient in certain nutrients, such as copper. The researchers wanted to know whether it was the fructose or the glucose moiety that was causing the problems. So they repeated their studies with two groups of rats, one given high amounts of glucose and one given high amounts of fructose. The glucose group was unaffected but the fructose group had disastrous results. The male rats did not reach adulthood. They had anemia, high cholesterol and heart hypertrophy—that means that their hearts enlarged until they exploded. They also had delayed testicular development. Dr. Field explains that fructose in combination with copper deficiency in the growing animal interferes with collagen production. (Copper deficiency, by the way, is widespread in America.) In a nutshell, the little bodies of the rats just fell apart. The females were not so affected, but they were unable to produce live young.

"The medical profession thinks fructose is better for diabetics than sugar," says Dr. Field, "but every cell in the body can metabolize glucose. However, all fructose must be metabolized in the liver. The livers of the rats on the high fructose diet looked like the livers of alcoholics, plugged with fat and cirrhotic."

HFCS contains more fructose than sugar and this fructose is more immediately available because it is not bound up in sucrose. Since the effects of fructose are most severe in the growing organism, we need to think carefully about what kind of sweeteners we give to our children. Fruit juices should be strictly avoided—they are very high in fructose—but so should anything with HFCS.

Interestingly, although HFCS is used in many products aimed at children, it is not used in baby formula, even though it would probably save the manufactueres a few pennies for each can. Do the formula makers know something they aren't telling us? Pretty murky!

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USATODAY.com - Is high-fructose corn syrup the culprit?
High-fructose corn syrup used in soft drinks and other products may be contributing significantly to the growing obesity epidemic in this country, researchers ...
www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-03-25-hfcs-usat_x.htm



Fructose is No Answer For a Sweetener... 14. R. Ivaturi and C. Kies, "Mineral Balances in Humans as Affected by Fructose, High Fructose Corn Syrup and Sucrose," PLANT FOODS FOR HUMAN NUTRITION 42, no. ...
www.mercola.com/2002/jan/5/fructose.htm

Six Reasons Why Corn is Making You Fat 4/10/04... began switching their sweeteners from sucrose (table sugar) to corn syrup in the 1970s when they discovered that high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) was not only ...
www.mercola.com/2004/apr/10/corn_fat.htm




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