Sometimes children misbehave.

[redqueen]

They're imperfect... still in training, so to speak.

With all the threads about badly behaved children, I thought I should point this out. Some days my kids have been so well-behaved we've had perfect strangers compliment us, and some days they raise a little hell.

They're KIDS! That's what they do.

If you don't know the kids intimately, that is, see them on a frequent enough basis to really know how they are, you really can't judge whether their parents are really doing a bad job or they're just having a bad day.

That said, there are cases, we all know, where the parents just don't give a damn. But do you who sound the rallying cry against badly-behaved kids really want to unfairly tag all children with a stigma because some parents are stupid? I would hope not.


Just wanted to throw that out there. :)

[Padraig18]

1. Hear, hear!

Well said!

:thumbsup:

[HalfManHalfBiscuit]

2. That's where the spanking comes in.

Punishment is underrated.

[WindRavenX]

3. I hope you're joking

NT

[HeyManThatsCool]

18. WAIT. Your all against spanking?

Let me tell you- I've seen kids that need a good swat at the bottom.
I'm not talking about using a belt, or a spatula or whatever- or even spanking multiple times. But, sometimes a swat is needed.

I think the whole "Don't spank your kids" thing is a bunch of B.S.

Kids are on allllllllll sorts of meds these days because many people are confused about how to effectively parent. Instead of being a PARENT they haul their child (or children) off to a doctor & have them diagnosed with something that requires medication. Like rittalin.
(Now granted, there are many MANY cases where that is the right thing to do- but I am speaking here from personal experience working with children & families over the last decade. Some parents grab the medication as a quick fix)


My mom used to give me medication when I embarassed her as a child.
It was called ASS-WARM-alin.

& guess what? I freakin behaved myself. I only ever got spanked twice. I knew what the punishment would be & I didnt f around.

[WindRavenX]

21. It depends

People seem to think that spanking is the best form of discipline. Often times, it isn't- in fact, in the times I had to swat the kids I supervised at the Day Care center, it was least effective.
Oftentimes, the best method is isolation- aka, a "time out".
But as you correctly mentioned, too many parents substitute these things with Ritalin.

[redqueen]

22. I'm against all spanking.

You wanna make somethin of it? I'll bust you up! ;)

Seriously, I don't think it's necessary. I've never spanked my 7 y/o and she's the best behaved girl in her class, two years runnin'!

*huffs on nails, polishes them on shirt*

[HeyManThatsCool]

But is that because you have limits & she knows what they are?

Because thats the kind of parenting I'm talking about. Thats the way to go.



I've come across alot of parents with no limits.

Then you see parents that need only to give "the look" to their child & the behavior immediately improves

[redqueen]

31. I guess.

I really don't know, to be honest. I treat my kids with utmost respect. I snap at them sometimes and I promtply apologize -- any time my behavior is inappropriate I make it clear that I know it and that I shouldn't do such things. I think they learn from my behavior, honestly.

*polishes nails some more* ;)

[Darth_Kitten]

4. You are correct.....

:)

[HEyHEY]

5. SO they need to be "Corrected"

[redqueen]

8. Aww heck

I'm PMing you the response I'd like to put here!

:evilgrin:

[4_Legs_Good]

15. LMAO

Good point...

(Best scene in a movie EVER)

david

[HeyManThatsCool]

20. Are you talking about NO MORE WIRE HANGERS??

lol

[4_Legs_Good]

26. No, NO MORE HANGING WIRES!!!

(that's from a Futurama episode - Best TV show ever. I didn't get the joke until my wife explained it to me).

No, "Corrected" is from the Shining.

Lloyd, I believe, the ghost bartender tells Jack that his daughters tried to burn down the Overlook, but he "corrected them".

Meaning he chopped them up into little pieces with an axe.

heh heh heh

david

[4_Legs_Good]

6. "some days they raise a little hell"... a LITTLE hell???

My son raises a LOT of hell. Little jerk!

You know, since he was born, almost nothing bothers me anymore. When kids raise hell, I just smile, and it's not just a smile of knowing what the parents are going through - it actually makes me happy somehow. Weird!

The other day in Home Despot, though, I did hear a little girl (1 year old or so) really crying, and somehow it totally bothered me. That rarely happens anymore, so it was odd. I think, more than anything, I just wanted someone to pick the poor girl up and console her.

david

[redqueen]

12. I hear ya!

Ever see parenthood?

Remember the rollercoaster metaphor? Perfect!

And yes... sometimes I want to run over and pick them up myself. :)

[Debi]

7. It's funny...

My son's friends (16-17 year-olds) are fairly well behaved.

But, sometimes when we're out in public, all the boys act like little jerks! People look at us, I just shake my head.

They're being kids!!!

:pals: remember being a kid? :pals:

[Padraig18]

10. "remember being a kid?"

The problem is that no, most of them don't.

[Susang]

13. Who's "them"?

Just curious? :-)

[redqueen]

24. Alright, you two!

Don't make me stop this car! :P

[Debi]

30. Kids!

:eyes: Sheesh!

[redqueen]

36. I know!

Gotta love 'em!

:)

[Susang]

37. Where?

<ducks and hides before any children disturb her delicate sensibilities>

:evilgrin:

[datasuspect]

9. that's why we need to isolate them

and study them to determine what useful nutrients we can obtain from them.

[Lex]

11. When I was little and was having a bad day

and we were out in public (at a restaurant or grocery store, for example), my Mom used to pick me up and leave, so my bad day wouldn't cause everyone else to be driven to distraction.

This is what my best friend does with her son too.


Is there anything wrong with doing that?

[redqueen]

17. 'Course not!

But if you're at a store, or on a plane, it's kinda hard to do. :)

And even at a restaurant... I wouldn't expect a whole family to pick up and leave because their kids were being a bit loud or messy. Vomiting, yeah... that's a sure dinner-ender.

But a little noise? A little mess? No biggie, IMO. If the kid won't stop, then sure, at least one parent should take the kid outside... or if alone, the parent should eventually give up and leave... but not just for a little fussin. I hope people bitching on this forum aren't all pantywadded over a little fussin, but knowing DUers... I ain't assumin' shit! (see threads about letting cats out... YIKES!)

[Lex]

25. No, fussing a bit is one thing. I mean, an all out scream-fest.

And yes, in the middle of grocery shopping, my mother once grabbed my temper-tantrum-throwing brother up off the floor, left the grocery cart with some groceries in it at the front, and we LEFT.

He was like 4 years old. He was completely shocked. I'll never forget it.

[redqueen]

27. Yeah, no... that shopping trip would have to end.

Fortunately my kids have never pulled any crap like that. If they did, though, I sure wouldn't ignore it and keep shopping.

And amazingly, I've never seen anything like that at the store. Maybe kids today are just better behaved, what with parents not smacking them around so much. ;)

[Debi]

34. Huh,

my dad used to grab me by the arm and spank me until I wasn't having a bad day any more....:spank:

[Lex]

38. Did he threaten to

"give you something to cry about?"

[enigmatic]

14. I'd say the same for those who think that wanting to eat in peace...

in a nice restaurant w/o having an unsupervised child ruin it and other patron's meals don't deserve to be labelled "child haters" and be called every name in the book, too.

[redqueen]

19. Yes, I agree.

IMO, there is NO EXCUSE for letting your kids run around unsupervised.

However, my motivation is not to protect anyone else -- my motivation is for the kids' own protection.

I'm with you 1000% on that one!

[4_Legs_Good]

28. Your point is understood, buuuuut....

Damn,

once I was at the freaking Costco food freaking court and two kids were running around and playing and eating and laughing, and this evil woman from hell just kept ridiculing the single mother about it like it was freaking the fanciest restaurant in town and she was the worst mother in history.

I don't want to get into this children/restaurant argument, but I'll never forget what a royal bitch that lady at the Costco food court was.

david

[redqueen]

32. See, that's where the judgment call comes in.

If they were endangering others or themselves then that's an issue.

If they're off by themselves where the parents can watch and just blowing some steam off, what's the harm? Some kids don't know limits, and might hurt themselves... I'd have a problem with that... but a bit of a rowdy game of peekaboo or something? What's the harm?

[Wapsie B]

16. Yes they do.

That's their job. :)

[Debi]

35. Love your avatar!

:hi:

[jonnyblitz]

23. yup. kids have an excuse when they misbehave in public

unlike the adults who do.:hi:

[WindRavenX]

29. kids are NOT mini-adults

Some people think they are....

[redqueen]

33. Oh, hell no!

If that were true, then SIGN ME UP!

'Cause I'd SURE love to have someone around to wash my clothes, make my dinner, read me stories, tickle my back and sing me to sleep...

Awww hell... I'm getting all choked up... I want my mom! ;)