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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:08 PM
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It's still bugging me that HST blew his brains out in his kitchen...
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 08:12 PM by KoKo01
It just seems too "ordinary" for him. I just don't see this as the way he lived his life. He would have picked something much more "way out" than his kitchen, FGS! Or, if I had been him...I for sure would have...:shrug:

On Edit: Where would YOU blow your brains out, if it came to that?
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burned Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:12 PM
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1. nah
any other way would have overshadowed the funeral ash cannon shot.
I wish I could be there for that.

They better let it happen!

Its still bugging me that he's gone though.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:20 PM
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2. Yes, that will be really spectacular....but the "kitchen floor????"
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 08:22 PM by KoKo01
Why not find a really crazy place that fits him to do "the deed" and then have your ashes shot out of the cannon for "MAXIMUM EFFECT." You get double publicity for the first "out" and then the "spectacular grand finale?"

Maybe HST was trying to say to us "Hey, I was ordinary...so I picked the Kitchen because it signifies where we all gather...the heart and soul of humanity is the "Kitchen." From "birth to death" we always need to EAT.

Maybe Hunter's EXIT has more significance because of that. He picked the kitchen to blow it out and then let's his remains go off in the "Cannon." The ultimate of "split" in his soul...or his character or whatever. I'm "of the Kitchen, he says" (common man) but I will let what's left "that I don't know about ('cause I'm outta here)" go off in "BIG STYLE!"

:shrug: Maybe that was his final message...?
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:29 PM
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3. I think he made a big mistake
*total speculation here*

They say he was depressed because he was some months out from back and hip surgery and broke his leg to boot, and he was worried about being a burden and having people take care of him, didn't want to be an invalid.

But, having known many people who have been thru all that, I think that he overreacted and should have given himself time to heal.

Unless the back/hip/leg injury was just a tidy media excuse. I mean, does anyone in their right mind kill themselves?
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:29 PM
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19. Oddly enough, My husband's grandfather killed himself for the very reason
that he did not want to be a burden because he was ill. My husband's father was not in his right mind when he killed himself. :hi:
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Illinois_Dem Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:32 PM
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4. There's nothing unusual about his choice.
People frequently commit suicide in the kitchen, bathroom, basement or garage out of 'consideration' for whoever has to clean up afterwards.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:33 PM
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5. Plus, he was probably quite drunk.
Obviously.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:36 PM
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6. Exactly.
Many times they do think of the easy clean-up. Plus, it is a place that someone will be found quickly.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:46 PM
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7. Why would you care about being found "quickly" though....I would
think he would have enjoyed the mystery of folks looking for him...and wouldn't have wanted to leave a "mess."

Suicide leaves a mess...whether it's the bathroom, kitchen or wherever..it's a mess. And "someone" has to clean it up...and "someone" has to walk in that room and remember someone they loved, "checked out" leaving that mess behind for them to clean up.

I would have thought he'd do it more "independently." A "Gonzo Blow Out" that was like the life he lived. I wouldn't have thought he'd leave a "mess" for someone else to pick up and deal with. :shrug: There's nothing I saw in his writing that showed he would have wanted to leave his life to someone to clean up after him.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:48 PM
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10. there's money in cleaning up those messes
crime scene cleanering is a growth industry.

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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:55 PM
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13. I know.
I have thought about starting up my own business to do just that.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:56 PM
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14. OMG...that's pretty cynical....do you have experience in this?
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 08:59 PM by KoKo01
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:00 PM
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15. they had a write up in the chicago tribune
several years ago.

two guys in the suburbs started subcontracting this service and they turned a profit.

how is it cynical? they're dead. they (and whatever residues and sloughed off parts) need to be removed.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:04 PM
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17. Not really.
I just dispatch all of the calls, type the reports and see all of the pics from the nasty mess. I have also been on ridealongs and have witnessed it firsthand. The nastiest wasn't even a suicide-it was a natural death.
I figure that, since I have a really strong stomach, why not? At least I would be preforming a service for the families and I would not rip them off, like some do.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:31 PM
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:54 PM
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11. I don't know.
I take 9-1-1 calls from people who attempt suicide or from the family members who find them.
Many of them do want to be found easily. Most don't hide in a closet or an unused area. They are usually found out in the open.
I have had exactly one call where it was a person who didn't want to be found. They found him two weeks later in the middle of a cornfield. The rest always wanted to be found-quickly.
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:48 PM
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8. I know a woman that shot herself on the
diving board of her pool. Now that's a considerate suicide. Clean up by filtration.

I agree that HST's choice of the kitchen seems out of character.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:55 PM
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12. It seems to be out of character.
But none of us will know what was going through his mind when he did it.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:41 PM
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23. No, we know exactly what went through his mind...
260grains of lead alloy at 1100 feet per second, I believe.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 05:43 AM
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24. That was just wrong.
True, but wrong.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 09:23 AM
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25. I think Hunter would smile at the reference
don't you?
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 05:21 PM
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26. He would have been the first one to get the joke.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:48 PM
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9. In front of you.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:01 PM
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16. Fenris are you saying.............
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 09:11 PM by KoKo01
He was "selfish." Did I get that right... :shrug: Might be true...he did seem to think himself pretty important...but that's okay. It's just family should be kind of special...although sometimes they don't deserve it.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:17 PM
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18. no, i mean i'd like you to clean it up
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:31 PM
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21. LOL's........eom
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:39 PM
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22. Think of it this way:
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 09:40 PM by two gun sid
HST didn't use his kitchen like everyone else. It was his office. He did all his writing there, watch all his sports programs there. It was where he felt the most comfortable.

I too will miss his writing. But, Doc knew what pain he was in. It was his choice not ours. I'm just glad that he existed when he did. He made a helluva impression on a lot of people.

I hope he found the peace he wanted and needed.

I'd blow my brains out right here at home with all my familiar things around me.
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