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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:57 PM
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God Damn, is there anything harder to read than Marx?
I have to read ton of Marx's writings for an Econ class I am taking, and it is hard as hell. I have never read anything so dense in my life. Hell, even the Communist Manifesto is a pain in the ass.

No wonder Marxism never really took root.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:59 PM
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1. yes there is
lots of stuff
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:01 PM
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2. casirer?
hegel?
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:01 PM
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3. Yes. Henry James, for instance.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:25 PM
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10. Blasphemer!
Henry James wrote beautifully.

Khash.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:03 PM
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4. try reading Marx underwater...now that's hard!
n/t
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:03 PM
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5. James Joyce it's a killer
n/t
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bloodyjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:17 PM
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6. No way. Finnegan's Wake is a hoot.
What are ya, illiterate or something?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:18 PM
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7. Soren Kierkegaard
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:23 PM
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9. Yeah that is true.
I read "Fear and Trembling" this summer and don't think I understood 75% of it.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:56 PM
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16. try reading his journals , oy vey....but, "Provocations" by Charles Moore
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 09:59 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
is a wonderful introduction to Kierkegaard for anyone interested.

Kierkegaard's style is dense, his thoughts complex.(and i had to continuely reread over and over again almost every paragraph, & pulling my hair out :7 ) yet embedded within his writings and journals are metaphors and truths so deep and vivid, they can overwhelm you with an almost blinding clarity.

Kierkegaard's bracing metaphors, aphorisms, and attacks on conventional Christianity in Provocations is more of a health farm than a holiday. At the very least it shows that we are not the first generation to find the Church disappointing, the mind and spirit in tension, and God wonderfully paradoxical.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:20 PM
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8. You want density? Try Ayn Rand
Impenetrable language AND incomprehensible logic all rolled into one.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:28 PM
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11. I always had a problem with Emile Durkheim
Reading "Suicide" seemed to me like having a root canal without anasthetic.

But stick with Marx. It's worth it.

Khash.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:30 PM
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12. Yes...
Judith Butler. Christ on a cracker!, that's the hardest reading I've ever done...for a Feminist Theory class. Almost made my head explode.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:45 PM
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13. Hitler makes that read like the children's section of a
newspaper.

Try that crap sometime.
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:45 PM
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14. Not really
That was why Engel was around...if he hadn't been around, communism and socialism likely would not have existed.
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kalibex Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:52 PM
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15. Yep:
Marshall McLuhan.

-B
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:58 PM
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17. yes
foucault.
Try reading some of Engels stuff. Same message better written.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:20 PM
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18. Yes, Leo Strauss....
:crazy:
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