I am watching "The Passion" on DVD and as an Atheist i must say

[A HERETIC I AM]

Aramaic sounds a lot like Klingon!

[UTUSN]

1. Aru Grarib (sp) n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. the only reason I woud even watch it is

to see how loyal they were to the original hebrew

Aramaic that is the Old testament, by the year 1 C.E it was hebrew and not that different from modern hebrew

[Rabrrrrrr]

4. No, the Old Testament is Hebrew, except for a bit of Daniel

Aramaic was the language of the Jews in the time of Jesus (and for a few centuries before, and a few centuries later). Hence, The Passion is in Aramaic, since that's the language that Jesus spoke.

Modern Hebrew evolved after Aramaic.

[Michael Ruggiero]

7. the language

I think the language was the same as today but it was not so broken up
it was just how it was use a Sentence the word is off key today to let them that can see and to not let them thet can not see.
{soul} the inside underneath or unseen portion of
{spirit} water that carries any other properties

[Rabrrrrrr]

9. And can you say that in English?

And welcome to DU!! :hi:

Not to be rude, but your "sentences" make no sense.

[A HERETIC I AM]

10. Rabrrr is right and if i am not mistaken, Gibson prided himself

on his use of Aramaic with English subtitles. Of course, there is damned little of this story that is related in the bible as far as the detail this movie gives.


And it is, after all, a mythical tale. The story of a saviour god-man/king that is scourged then killed and rises from the dead 3 days later is a motif that existed for centuries before this story was ever recorded. It is, at the end of the day, little more than rehashed, repackaged ancient myth that tells of a Solar Avatar as the saving grace of humanity.

I didnt want to start any kind of flame war here and i know DU has had it's share of "Passionate debates" (pun intended)i just thought it was kind of funny that the language sounded so much like the Klingon you have heard in the Star Trek movies.
I am gonna go finish watching it so i wont be posting for another couple hrs. Have fun folks

[DemBones DemBones]

6. I did a search because I was surprised by your comment

and wanted to check it out for myself. This article about a summer seminar in Aramaic at Duke University supports what I've always thought: Jesus spoke Aramaic, though he studied Hebrew because he was a Jew.


"Aramaic in Post Biblical Judaism and Early Christianity," a summer seminar being taught at Duke, brings together 15 fellows -- professors and researchers from around the country -- for six weeks of intensive language training and a chance to conduct short research projects under the guidance leading Aramaic scholars.

The summer seminar is taught by Duke professor Eric Meyers, director of the Graduate Program in Religion; University of Wyoming professor Paul Flesher, president of the International Organization of Targumic Study; and Duke professor Lucas Van Rompay, director of Duke's Center for Late Ancient Studies. It is funded by a grant from the National Endowment for the Humanities.

Without knowledge of Aramaic, Flesher said, "you can't really understand the period during which the people of the Old Testament were living; you can't understand the period following that; you can't really understand what's going on in Palestine in the first century during the time of Jesus."

Flesher said the language had widespread use in the Middle East and southwest Asia from approximately 700 B.C. to A.D. 700. It was the official language of the Assyrian, Babylonian and Persian empires before breaking into local dialects in Palestine, Syria and Mesopotamia. (Today it is spoken by an estimated half million people in the Middle East and Semitic diaspora.)

"One of the major debates over the last 10 years has been the extent to which Jesus was familiar with Greek language, Greek culture and Greek philosophy," said Meyers, who sees Jesus as a typical Jew of his time, primarily speaking Aramaic and learning in Hebrew. "The language issue is at the very core of this."

Aramaic is also important in biblical archeology, said Meyers, who has worked on such digs for more than three decades. He estimates that more than a third of all inscribed artifacts discovered from the era of Roman rule of Palestine, in which Jesus lived, are in Aramaic.

http://www.dukenews.duke.edu/news/aramaic_0704.html

[Swede]

3. Is that the one with crop circles and rogue cops?

I can't remember.

[Rabrrrrrr]

5. No, you're thinking of Fiddler on the Roof

[Swede]

8. Oh yeah,it was in Post-Apocalypse Australia.

He had a black sidekick.

[Rabrrrrrr]

11. Oh, then you mean Funny Girl!

[moof]

12. The Harkonnen could easily defeat the Tusken Raiders

also Rabrrrrrr may be correct but never " right "
you must be thinking of some bizzro world rabRRRRRR.

[Rabrrrrrr]

18. Hi moof! Haven't seen you around in a long time.

And yes, I do indeed live in my own bizarro world.

:7

[A HERETIC I AM]

13. Ok...well....It SUCKED!!!!

As a movie about how to beat a guy 3/4 to death it was fine but as a narrative of a biblical tale i found it ...well...tedious......boring even.

Sorry Mel, but not only didnt you deserve an Oscar Nomination, this movie isnt in the same league as most nominees. Only possible nomination i think they should have gotten would have been for make-up. The Prosthetic wounds were very well done.

Otherwise, i was right in not bothering to see it in the theatre (I would most SURELY have pissed of some weeping fundies) and i probably shouldnt have bothered to rent it either, but there you go.

[KitchenWitch]

14. am I the only one who thought that the scenes

with the "devil" were more than a bit cheesy?

[A HERETIC I AM]

15. Cheesy, yes. Limburger even.

[RebelOne]

16. In my opinion, it was even more violent

than any Freddy Kruger or Jason slasher movie.

[xmas74]

17. I never wanted to watch it.