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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:44 PM
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Historical Parallels Do Have Limits
Thom Hartmann's essay "When Democracy Failed - 2005: The Warnings of History" is a good start. It is chilling when one lives the events in today's world and see how closely the events stack up with those events in the 1920's and 1930's.

I agree strongly with what much of what Thom Hartmann wrote. I add though, the use of the historical parallels between Hitler and the shrub are limited. The people in power today have the mistakes made by the Nazis to teach them which mistakes not to make. The people in power now have learned from the mistakes made by the Nazis and will not make the same mistakes.

The threats to world peace and freedom from the shrub's government are real. The historical parallels of when Rome moved from a Republic to an Empire are also very chilling.

Remember when one draws one's sword against one's Prince, throw away the scabbard.

Link to article:

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0222-22.htm


Bush Lied, People Died, Media Cheered
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:45 PM
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1. The parallels between Bush and Hitler are lame
their might be superficial similarities, but that is it.

That is not saying Bush is not dangerous, he just isn't Hitler
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:48 PM
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3. It's anachronistic to compare Bush to Hitler, or even Mussolini.
What the neocons are doing is something altogether new in the historic theater. It's almost, to borrow a popular phrase, a "kinder, gentler" form of regime.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:05 PM
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5. I agree
That is probably the best way to describe it.

It is a bizarre mix of democracy, theocracy and 19th century imperialism
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:48 PM
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2. And once again my sigline changes
Check.
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:55 PM
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4. It's The Events ...
we are discussing. The players are secondary.


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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:12 PM
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6. On the other hand though
Despite having the lessons of all the mistakes made in Vietnam to profit from, the Bush gang insisted on repeating most of them.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:25 PM
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7. It's really hard to convince people that parallels hold only to the
extent they actually hold.

Parallels have no real predictive power, unless the circumstances and likely reactions are the same (in which case it's still not the parallel, that's predictive, but the circumstances and likely reactions).
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:43 PM
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8. It's a uniquely American psychology
that doesn't mean that Bush doesn't have the potential to be every bit as bad - or even worse than Hitler. Lets just say he's not their yet.
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