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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:41 PM
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Poll question: Would rather be rich and miserable or poor and happy?
Timeless, age-old theoretical question, but for me a reality decision
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:42 PM
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1. if you're rich...
you can at least rent happiness for a little while.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:43 PM
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2. Yes, but then you'll only find out that the happiness you rented won't
play or has a big rip up the back...and you're even more miserable. :hi:
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:44 PM
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3. nope
Not real happiness.

If having money didn't make me happy, what good would it be to me?

And if I could be happy without being rich, then I think I would be just fine.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:49 PM
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4. what do you mean by "poor"
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:54 PM
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5. My question, too.
If you don't have enough money to meet basic needs, you can't be happy.

If the question means "you have enough money but not much more, and you're happy," I can vote for that.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:55 PM
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7. I figure it means you have enough to survive
ie meet basic needs.

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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:56 PM
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9. paycheck to paycheck, I guess
and struggling to pay the necessities of life. No frills or luxeries. maybe i should have said "poorer"
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:11 PM
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14. if it meant struggling to pay for basic needs such as food
home etc then i might go with rich and miserable.

but if it meant being able to pay for basic needs such as food, decent home, clothes etc in a secure job. but not enough that to afford eating out at good restaurants, buy designer clothes, or even go to the movies regularly then i might pick the "poorer and happy".

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:55 PM
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6. after being poor and miserable for what seems forever now
I'd take either one.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:55 PM
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8. .
:hug:
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:03 PM
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10. I'd like that in cash, please.
Money eliminates many day to day problems and presents many opportunities to fix whatever you're miserable about.

I'd even venture to say that if you're rich and miserable, you're incredibly selfish or incredibly stupid.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:10 PM
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13. Money doesnt buy everything
My business partner is worth millions and has everything, and at the same time, nothing important. For birthdays and holidays we have a saying: "what he wants he already has, what he needs money cant buy"







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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:29 PM
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21. But he's inherently happier because of the money.
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 04:30 PM by tjdee
It's like....Maslow's hierarchical needs (ignore the "cheez" part, LOL) :



If needs in the lower levels isn't met, people can't climb to the next step. Rich people have the first two levels knocked off. Poor people are stuck, automatically, beneath them.

Wealthy minds are freed up to worry about other things, and by default (in my opinion) they are happier. If they're not, there is something wrong, and I should get their money, LOL.
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ZenLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:06 PM
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11. What really sucks is being poor and miserable
Been there, done that.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:09 PM
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12. Can I be rich and miserable just long enough to pay off all my debt
and then be poor and happy? :)
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:11 PM
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15. I'd rather be poor and miserable.
I must pay my penance.
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:13 PM
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16. Yep, another vote for P&M here
I'm used to it by now - the change to anything else is likely to kill me. :)
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:20 PM
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17. Ask yourself "How much is enough?"
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 04:22 PM by McKenzie
What do you want to do with "more" that you can't do already?

A rhetorical question, but a salient one nevertheless. I'm very well off financially; I have no social life to speak of. When I was younger I seemed to be happier. Maybe that's the rose-tinted spectacles syndrome and maybe the responsibilities I now shoulder make me yearn for a time when things seemed less fraught and complex.

However, two years ago I could have died. I'm not joking either; one of my fellow patients died and he was only 36 years old. I remember walking along the beach thinking about it and it changed everything. I've never been attracted by money, not ever. But, when one is facing one's possible demise it focusses the mind in a way that only those who have been there can grasp. Sorry if that comes over as pompous; it's not intended as such.

When I shuffle off this mortal coil, every penny goes to charity, minus a few thousand quid to relatives. Money counts for nothing and I don't believe in inherited wealth because wealth that comes along that way screws up the social order. Western people need to look closely at how well off they are in any case. I suppose everything is relative to the circumstances one lives in and our longing for material wealth is a corollary to subtle advertising and programming. Buy the toothpaste, get the girl (or guy) and all that.

That said, happiness has little to do with material wealth and everything to do with inner peace.

Quality of life has absolutely nothing to do with money but I suspect that those who come here know that already.

edit: context
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:26 PM
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18. As long as my basic needs are met...
Food, clothing, safe place to live, etc.- I'm set. Money can't buy the most important things in life.
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:27 PM
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19. Give me the money
Yeah, I said it.
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fit4life Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:27 PM
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20. It would help if I could actually compare the two.
Since I only range from poor & miserable to poor & happy, I have no way of knowing what it would be like to be rich & miserable. :)
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