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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:58 AM
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To all of you trashing Chris Rock
:nuke:

some of you bitch just for the sake of bitching.

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:58 AM
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1. i agree
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:03 AM
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3. I mean, Chris was BRILLLIANT
I don't see what the fuck they are bitching about.

What did they want? Seigfred and Roy?
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HeyManThatsCool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:54 AM
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15. I totally agree
he was kick ass


best show host I've seen in YEARS
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:00 AM
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2. There are people who live to bitch about anything and everything..
It's the "real" National Pastime. Don't sweat it..
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:04 AM
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4. I thought he rocked
He was funny and on mark all the way through. I hope he's back next year.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:05 AM
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5. sorry, i won't trash him
but i think he sucks... i always have.

not once have i ever laughed at his jokes. he's just annoying to listen to and watch.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:06 AM
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6. and how is that not trashing him????
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:09 PM
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54. That's not trashing, that's stating an opinion,
which everyone has the right to do. I happen to totally agree, and I think he was the completely wrong choice for the host. He's always annoyed the hell out of me, and he did so again last night. That was, frankly, the most boring Oscar show I've EVER seen and I've been watching them religiously for 27 years now, since I was 13 years old. They didn't even show highlights of the five nominated films like they do every year in the interest of "moving things along." They're so concerned with that that they've actually hurt the show.

But Rock sucked, and was nowhere near Crystal or Martin or most of the other hosts. The only one that sucked worse in recent years was David Letterman, who was HORRIBLE. I stil cringe when I think of his hosting stint and that was ten years ago. I never did get his stupid, idiotic "Uma, Oprah" schtick, and neither did a lot of others. But Rock was boring and annoying and way out of his element. Of course, I've NEVER thought he was the least bit funny.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 07:46 AM
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20. that's just trash
where did you learn to contradict yourself so well?
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:48 AM
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40. from you.
i learned it by watching you.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:18 PM
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59. sorry, son
I guess we all need to get help, don't we?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:51 AM
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41. Did you ever see the Chris Rock show on hbo?
I thought it was hilarious.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:55 PM
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53. I just bought this DVD
couple clips included :D

http://www.hbo.com/rock/

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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:09 AM
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7. i agree
he did a fine job. Not outstanding, but fine. He made me laugh out loud a few times - the Bush jokes, especially.

He looked great, never slowed the show down and did his job well.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:16 AM
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8. I would LOVE a link to the 'scene of the crime'
...anybody....???
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:20 AM
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9. watching some video now........
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:57 AM
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10. You say that as though it were a bad thing
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:24 AM
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11. I just watched the link you posted - Rock was okay, but not inspired
And I like Chris Rock a lot! But his performance, at least in this opening bit, was uninspiring and lackluster and, I must say, I smiled a few times, but never actually laughed.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:31 AM
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28. Neutered is my term for it.
Chris swims better in the ocean not the mainstream.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:52 AM
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12. I like Chris Rock and think he did ok
The Oscars is just such a strange, stilted, formal format that it is hard for an edgier performer to carry it. Look who have been the most successful-- Johnny Carson, Bob Hope, Billy Crystal... Not the Chris Rocks, Whoopi Goldmans and Dave Lettermans.

I guess there is just something about "old Hollywood" and the traditions, the tuxedos, etc., that just make for a major disconnect when you bring out a younger, hipper comedic host.

But, I don't criticize Chris Rock for that.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 07:20 AM
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17. You mean Whoopi Golderg
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 07:46 AM
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19. Sure did...'Guess that 4 hours of sleep didn't do it for me!
LOL
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 07:48 AM
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21. Adam Sandler should do it next year.
Rob Schneider would be good, too.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 08:27 AM
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23. Adam Sandler?
OMG! That would be utterly awful!!

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

I'd ignore the Oscars with even MORE energy if that unfunny one-trick wonderless pony no-talent were doing it.

Ewwww.

Might as well get David Schwimmer to team up with him.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:55 AM
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29. Adam Sandler Should Clean The Auditorium After Next Year's Show
He's barely capable of doing a job like that - he's the most annoying, over-rated performer of all time, IMHO.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:03 AM
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30. hahahahahahahaha
Didn't make me laugh as hard as Chris did last night, but it was still an out-loud laugh, and for that, I thank you. :)
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:15 AM
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45. You want everyone to sleep through the whole thing?
:crazy:
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:17 PM
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58. If he does Opera man a couple of times...
...how bad could it be?

It would be fucking great. That's what it would be.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:13 AM
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37. exactly what i was thinking, Rock would have to tone down from his usual
performances. the same goes for Letterman which is why he was so off compared to his regular shows.

i actually think it would be good to give Rock another chance. with time he might be able to come up with something that is just funny and close to what he does in his regular shows but still acceptable enough for the Oscars.

the visit to the Magic Johnson theater was very different and funny i thought. more of something different like that.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:16 AM
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38. WHITE CHICKS!!!!
WHITE CHICKS!!!!!!!! :D
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:04 AM
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13. They do. I think of them as the "superior crowd."
They are just too good for us normal mortals.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:07 AM
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14. I like Chris Rock...I'm just one of those "can't stand change type of
girls"...It was tough to see someone new. It's the same reason I was off to Letterman doing it (and he truly stunk) :hi:
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ben_packard Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 07:10 AM
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16. You mean a conservative? ;) NT
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 07:42 AM
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18. I love Chris Rock..
.... and last night didn't change anything for sure.

Yes, he is not always PC, and that's what I love about him. He calls it like he sees it and that has always been a trait I admire, even if I don't totally agree with the point. So long as it's funny, and it always is.

And besides, I'll take a put down of ** whereever it comes from, and like it. :)
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 08:19 AM
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22. I didn't watch the whole thing
but I loved his bit on ** and his analogy with the GAP.

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 08:28 AM
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24. I bitch so much I'm gonna bitch about this thread!!
But I enjoyed Chris Rock and loved that bit where he was at the Magic Johnson Theater finding out what movies folks had seen.

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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 08:46 AM
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25. Oh Yeah?
Well, I'm going to bitch about you bitching about this thread.

So there...

THPPPPPB (or however you spell it)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:11 AM
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27. Hey, quit your bitching, because I'm going to bitch about you bitching...
about my bitching.

So take that BEYOTCH!!
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:40 AM
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48. Oh yeah?!!
Well...

Oh let's just not go there, shall we?
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 08:49 AM
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26. I didn't see the oscars, but I love Chris Rock.
I have a hard time believe Rock was anything but hilarious.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:05 AM
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31. I thought he was the funniest host in years.
However everyone has different tastes and there are lots and lots of folks who love to share their negative opinions (i.e. bitch), me included. :)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:08 AM
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32. It took you ~how~ long to figure that out?
;-)
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:10 AM
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33. some of us actually and sincerely
don't like him. nothing to do with enjoying bitching or elitism etc etc. :shrug:

I can't comment on his performance last night because the only part I happened to catch was Jamie Foxx's acceptance speech.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:12 AM
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34. I'm speaking in the sense of any topic
there are people that just love to argue for the sake of argument, the topic is irrelevant.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:13 AM
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36. EXACTOMUNDO!!!!!!
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:22 AM
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39. that makes sense.
I misinterpreted. :hi:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:53 AM
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42. I totally disagree with you on that
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 10:54 AM by Rabrrrrrr
and I'm sick and tired of people saying that some people just like to argue for argument's sake. I think you need to reconsider your position and grow up. Maybe even see a therapist. Perhaps better yet, examine your soul.

People arguing just for the fun of it - what a dumbass statement and stupid thing to say.

I'm putting you on ignore.

Oh, and you're not a real liberal, either.

:7
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:56 AM
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43. I don't believe you disagree with me
It's just not physically possible. Look, in the grand scheme of things we're all going to die anyway, but just as the universe is old, I am agreeable, and that alone is enough for me to doubt your claims. In fact I'll bet that wasn't even you writing that, but some sort of imposter. You never disagree with me, ever.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:05 AM
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44. Believe what you want. The truth will still be in your face.
It's up to you to decide to stop making outrageous, silly claims, and stop arguing - which you do incessantly. I am not an imposter, and I am appalled and offended that you would imply such a thing. Neither I, nor anyone else, get into arguments for the sake of arguments, which was your first fallacious claim. Add in the lack of a comma in your penultimate sentence, and I can only conclude that you are a simpering dumbass with nothing to day, like your original statement that people engage in arguments for "fun" and "without need". Screw that. I bet you still live with your mother and she rocks you to sleep at night, doesn't she?

I totally disagree with you, and I don't know why you feel the need to argue about whether people argue for fun. No one does, and it's time that you stopped it.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:12 AM
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35. actually, I found out some time ago
and was trying my damnest to bite my tongue.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:17 AM
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46. I couldn't watch it because of him
who the hell was writing his material
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:50 AM
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49. yep -- the sun did rise today
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:21 AM
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47. People are trashing Chris Rock?
(going back to my work now.....sheesh.....)
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:57 AM
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50. I thought he was fine, though the production wasn't very good
all those noises off stage, strange camera shots, etc. And it didn't seem like they gave Rock as much face time as hosts usually get. But I thought he did a fine job as host.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:20 PM
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51. I loved him!
He was a great host.
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rene moon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:25 PM
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52. Rock was funny
His barbs were good. He took chances and that's what stuffy award shows like the Academy needs now and then. He has balls, that's for sure!
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:35 PM
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55. I thought he was wrong for the audience
Let's face it, the Oscars are a stuffy "whitebread" affair, it was disingenuous to try to give it youth "street cred" by letting Chris Rock host. Chris Rock would be great for the MTV awards, but I don't think it worked for the Oscars.

He lost me when he did that segment where he was interviewing people on the street to see what movies they had seen. They all said "White Chicks" and "Chronicles of Riddick" etc. Rock's point was that "real people" don't watch these movies. I thought it was a slap at the audience with a message like "you people out there are all a bunch of phony pretentious m-f's."

Well I watch these movies, and I will never see "White Chicks." I'd like a host who could at least relate to the viewing audience on some level.

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:42 PM
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56. Then why was he given a standing ovation?
People do "get" it, I don't care which segment of the population you come from.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 07:32 PM
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63. That was so Cool! Rock got a "standing ovation"..
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 07:35 PM by zidzi
before he even started and he finally told them to get their asses in their seats!

I thought there was a lot of dry humor with Chris, too..things that maybe went "swoosh" over people's heads at the moment.

One thing he said,too, that I liked .."There's been 10 Oscars given out and no one has been tested positive for steriods yet."

Guess who I thought of when he said that?

Chris looked Marvelous and he had such healthy energy about him..I looked forward to seeing him everytime he came back.

He had the audience in stitches when he was comparing bush's job to someone who had a job at the Gap.

And he gave a great plug for Michael Moore and F9/11.

I agree with whomever said..he should come back and do it again..now that he has his feet wet!
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 07:37 PM
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65. BUT... I still liked him better than Dave, Whoopi, and even Billy
That one bit just rubbed me the wrong way. It was like he was trying too hard to prove he hadn't sold out.

The best part was when he was trashing Bush.
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:46 PM
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57. Chris Rock is more than just a comic genius
But he definitely is a comic genius.
His latest special is outrageous!
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:26 PM
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60. I thought he was great!
Especially when he was bashing Bush. The whole war between the Gap and Banana Republic was hilarious.

I thought the production sucked, but that's not his fault.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:55 PM
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61. I tuned in just to see Chris Rock; I don't usually watch the Oscars.
I thought he absolutely ruled. Funny, irreverant, fresh.

It's like he said on Oprah today: He was "working for somebody." (ABC, The Academy). It's not like when he works for himself on his HBO shows, and he can do whatever he wants. This time he had to walk a thin line. I thought he walked that thin line very well.

Oprah said that last night's show got the highest ratings in 5 years.
I'd love to see him do it again.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 07:36 PM
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64. Thanks for that report on what
went on Ophra show today..that was interesting.
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dback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 07:03 PM
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62. Was the movie theater bit a revisit to "black folks vs. n*****s?"
I couldn't quite figure out if he was trying to embarass the people in the lobby by intentionally showing them off as low-class, no-taste dim-bulbs. I know he caused a HUGE uproar the first time he did a routine around "black folks vs. n*****s," and wondered if he was intentionally showcasing these guys on purpose. (Then again, maybe he was satirizing the Oscar's highbrow-ness this year with the nominees?)

I would've liked a companion bit at a mall in Boise or suburban Ohio, to see what other folks would've said, and get more perspective on perhaps what Rock was really trying to do. (Albert Brooks was droll, but also not really indicative of middle-American tastes, y'know?)
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