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Chicago1 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:50 PM
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Chris Rock's comments about Tim Robbins & John Kerry
Well,

I was expecting more from Chris Rock and got less. He truly disappointed when he made the comment about Tim Robbin's "and bores us with his politics". Tim and Susan TELL THE TRUTH.
This was completely UNNECESSARY.

Also, he made a comment about John Kerry not being married to Oprah already and gleefully she made a face to him "Chris, not nice" which was EXCEELLENT on her part. I was proud of her.

Chris's comments about Tim and John Kerry were totally RIDICULOUS. We should all be on the same team in light of what's happening.


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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:52 PM
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1. Cool it
He was cracking some jokes. I'm sure John Kerry got a laugh out of it.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:54 PM
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4. I thought he was hilarious, he shredded Bush
and made a few jokes to even things out. If you can't laugh at yourself...
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:55 PM
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11. Pretty much. n/t
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:08 AM
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26. Dig it
We look like fools when we expect these folks to be entirely one-sided.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:11 AM
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29. Yeah, I noticed the original poster didn't even mention that shrub was
roasted, just that we should all be on the same "team" against Chris Rock because of these other comments.

I'll be looking forward to their future posts! :eyes:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:11 AM
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30. Right
He's a comedian and since he was hosting a program that people from both parties will be watching he has to be neutral.
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Old Deuteronomy Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:23 AM
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39. I could have kissed him
whe he went off on the Shrub.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:55 PM
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10. Kerry himself joked about it in one of the debates
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:00 AM
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18. I'm with you.
We can all laugh at ourselves. It's the uptight on the right who can't.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:53 PM
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2. He may have thrown those in there for the conservatives out there.
:shrug:
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:53 PM
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3. I think his monologue
where he "didn't" slam Bush makes up for it.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:56 PM
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14. Exactly!
I picked-up on that immediately, as well! It was actually "ingenious" of Chris. But then again, Chris "Rocks!" This will boost his career.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:06 AM
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23. It turns out that Bannana Republic never even made tank tops!
That part was great - I thought that it was all great, at least all that I saw. Come to think of it, that's the only part I saw

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:54 PM
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5. Jokes are very powerful tools.
Especially when you're doing comedy.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:54 PM
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6. uh, it's comedy , he bashed Bush much more
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:54 PM
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7. Also, he made a comment about John Kerry not being married to Oprah
What I heard was: "Operah is so rich, I saw John Kerry proposing to her."
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:57 PM
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15. I took that joke the same way - Chris was moreso making fun of Oprah
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:53 AM
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45. Funny thing is, I thought he said "Jim Carrey" and I still thought it was
funny! :D
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:30 AM
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54. ha, so did I
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 08:42 AM
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63. Me Too
Are people sure he did not say Jim Carrey? I thought sure he said Jim Carrey. I did at the time wonder why he made a joke about Jim Carrey wanting to marry Oprah.
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Cadence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:50 AM
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93. I did too. n/t
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:55 PM
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8. What, Tim Robbins is never boring when he tells the truth? n/t
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:55 PM
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9. I thought Chris Rock was superb! His opening was quite clever...
he got his message out there! I didn't hear the comment about Robbins, but I didn't see the Kerry remark as inappropriate. Overall, I was rather pleased with his performance! Peace.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:56 PM
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:02 AM
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67. I have to agree.
One major distinguishing trait between most liberals and conservatives is the ability to take a joke.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:56 PM
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13. I thought the "bores us with his politics" quip was funny n/t
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:02 AM
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20. I think Tim Robbins thought it was funny, too
he was laughing when he came out and it seemed genuine.

People upset with Chris Rock over this comment and the John Kerry proposing to Oprah quip need to lighten up, IMO.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:01 AM
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66. I agree - Tim took it as the joke it was
I seriously doubt he was offended. I didn't hear the Oprah one so I can't judge that.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:07 AM
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77. Tim is cool
and he proved that by coming out grinning. Self-awareness seems to be lost on wingnuts. You won't find self-deprecation coming from the likes of Newt, Sean, Bill O. (especially Bill O.), or Rush. They're too fired up with corporate-fueled zeal. And too insecure.
Why shouldn't Tim laugh? He's confident. He won an Oscar last year. And he's on the side of those who love America.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:59 AM
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94. Tim took it like an Oscar nominated artist with a sense of humor
I agree that he seemed to think it was funny. He certainly didn't look offended. I love TR, and I thought it was funny. Rock made fun of everybody.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:13 AM
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32. People have said that about me.
But I'm no Tim Robbins.

(They always say that about people who like to talk politics.)

--IMM
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:50 AM
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92. Told my Ward Club this last month...
We're geeks. We're mutants. Nobody sits around a table in the middle of February and talks about an election two years away. We're just not normal.

And we're boring as hell.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:58 PM
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16. write him a letter
maybe he'll take your advice and gladhand everybody on your favorite celebrity list

Before I wrote my letter, he was just doing the "can I get one McNugget" joke for the thousandth time. After that, because I knew what was right for him, and I told him about it, he got huge! Just check out his accountants.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:59 PM
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17. Hm
It's fantastic when he attacks Bush et al, but when he does the same to Kerry and Robbins, he's worthy of dunning.

I don't much like that.

Rock is a comedian. He can and should mock everything and everyone he chooses to. We can't cheer him at one turn and then boo him at another. The basic hypocrisy tastes bad in my mouth.

I dunno, not being clear because I'm brainfried from trying to boil 150 years of American foreign policy down to 2,500 words. I may not be making sense, but in my gibbered opinion I think you should lay off Rock. If we can't take some playful mockery thrown our way from time to time, we're useless.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:26 AM
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52. Can I have a nice photo of you? You'd look great in lizard green.
:D

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DemFromMem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:01 AM
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19. Rock was just okay
Strictly from an entertainment point of view, I'll take Billy Crystal any day. Rock's monologue was entertaining and the Bush knocks were pretty funny.

I thought the Robbins remark was out of line because he was introducing him when he said it. The Kerry remark was funny and I think even Kerry probably would have laughed.

On the other hand, I though Sean Penn's criticizing Rock over the Jude Law joke ended up making Penn look humorless.

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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:07 AM
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24. Though I agree with you "only" re Penn
It's their freedom to say what they like - and I enjoyed the entire show. Matter-of-fact, not only was it the best one ever (thanks to Rock) and his untochable jokes, it was the first I didn't snooze through.

Thanks Chris Rock for making this gals' Sunday night enjoyable!
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:17 AM
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35. Hey in the 1990's Penn would have simply beaten the crap out of him
He is getting better.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:19 AM
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38. yeah, i thought Sean Penn looked like an ass
since it was obvious Rock was joking and he made fun of himself in the joke also with the Denzel being a real star instead of him.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:48 AM
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72. Agree about the Jude Law Thing
Jude Law has been in a zillion movies this year, and Rock was just ragging on that. Everyone knows Law is a great actor -- actually, SEAN PENN himself beat him out for Best Actor last year. Lighten up! It's the Oscars!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:02 AM
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21. That "Quirp" Re Tim & Susan's Politics...
was "reverse-psychology." You either did not receive the joke in the manner in which it was received by most of us, or you didn't quite understand. Tim Robbin's "and bores us with his politics" was meant to be punning just the opposite.

And regarding Kerry, I took it as more of a small jive to Oprah's wealth, not against Kerry. That was Rock's way of getting their names in.

As far as the Oaf in Office... he "got" the Pimp. I mean Chimp, and the Idiot still probably didn't "get it!"
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:03 AM
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22. I think it's a little thing called sarcasm
He was obviously being sarcastic with the Tim Robbins remark and the joke about Kerry and Oprah was funny. You can't take your politics too seriously and he's a comedian, his JOB is to make EVERYONE laugh.

It's obvious who didn't have a sense of humor at the Oscars, Sean Penn.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:17 AM
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36. Penn was trying to make a joke.
He used Jude Law as a set up. Then said there's ten great actresses for every Jude Law. He didn't deliver it well. Swallowed it.

--IMM
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:26 AM
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41. Who cares if Jude can act anyhow. SOOO PRETTY. ; )
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:38 AM
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:50 AM
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73. I AM gay
but a gay woman, and I always says he's the only man I'd maybe have sex with. He is really sexy... although not as sexy as Kate Winslet...
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:53 AM
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74. anytime you and Kate would want to get together
with me and my wife, we'd be up for it.;-)
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:12 AM
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79. Can I just say right here DUers are hilarious?
Right in the middle of this thread, we have a proposed hook up between two DUers, the wife of one of the DUers, and Kate Winslet?

Hey throw in Jude Law and I'M there!

ROFL
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:14 AM
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80. I've never been in an orgy I didn't like. n/t
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 10:15 AM by shadowknows69
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:17 AM
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82. Can i come too? : P
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:16 AM
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81. I agree Kate is gorgeous.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:25 AM
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:36 AM
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85. I liked her in Hideous Kinky.
I have seen Quills a couple of times. Joaquin was good in that too. Geoffery Rush's brilliance goes without saying.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:08 AM
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25. Its a joke, ok?
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:08 AM
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27. The John Kerry / Oprah Winfrey joke was..
..the FUNNIEST THING EVER.
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Jonathan_Hoag Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:17 AM
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37. You're joking right?
The John Kerry marrying an available rich woman joke was funny at first but it is as old as his candidacy and has become quite tired. And elections were in November. It was even cracked about Arafat's widow.
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:39 AM
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55. I thought Rock's whole routine was
tired -- his best lines were the one about holding the show in the parking lot -- after all those dorkey presentations in the stands -- and the come back to Sean, about talk to my accountants. He's obviously clever on his feet -- but the routine was crappy, even if it did bash Bush, very forced. And I didn't appreciate the fat joke on Moore regarding Super Size Me, either. What we're going to get from this in your face routine is a whole bunch of Hollyweird bashing, tomorrow. It wasn't necessary and it wasn't even funny. The whole show lacked the class of other years.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:10 AM
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47. Funniest thing ever. That's a bit of a stretch.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:11 AM
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48. OK -- funniest thing I've heard all day.
:-)

That's a bit more honest.
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:10 AM
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28. :::applauding Chris Rock::: For being brave enough to speak OUT LOUD....
what too many others do not. Thank you Chris. We need more like you.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:12 AM
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31. Chris Rocked! He chided lots of people & Kerry himself jokes about the $
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 12:15 AM by ultraist
Kerry has joked about "marrying into money, TWICE. "

Rock also joked about celebrities:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/27/movies/oscars/27oscars.html?hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1109567220-+ThK311JHswW3InFGOgjCQ

Rock chided some celebrities by name and included one mild three-letter word, but his routine was fairly clean for the comedian known for a foul mouth in his standup act.

``The only acting you ever see at the Oscars is when people act like they're not mad they lost,'' Rock said. He recalled the year when Halle Berry won and fellow nominee ``Nicole Kidman was smiling so wide, she should have won an Emmy at the Oscars for her great performance. I was like, if you'd done that in the movie, you'd have won an Oscar, girl.''

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boneygrey Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:13 AM
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33. Just fucking relax
it is not all politics all the time. Jeeezzz.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:15 AM
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34. Some people want the world and are dissapointed when they don't get it
I don't expect anything any more - and I'm usually happy with whatever I get :D
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boneygrey Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:26 AM
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40. It is annoying that
some bullshit award program is seen as political. This shit is getting OLD!!!!
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:47 AM
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44. It's annoying that one person had to post and annoy so many people
Very few are agreeing with the original poster. It's humor damn it!! It's entertainment!! Get over it! lol
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boneygrey Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:17 AM
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50. Agreed n/t
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:30 AM
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42. He is a comedienne, and it was funny
lighten up!
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:42 AM
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57. I saw far better at Zanie's this weekend
and it was clean, too -- not that I mind, but maybe Rock is only funny when he is dirty. I had tears rolling down my face at Zanies, I only cracked a smile at Rock's ad libs, tonight.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:31 AM
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43. am I the only one who thought Chris Rock sucked tonight? . . .
he wasn't remotely funny, most of his jokes fell flat, and he insulted a good number of people for no good reason . . . I like Rock, but I expected much better from him than I got . . .
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:15 AM
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49. he sure wasn't at his best and I thought a lot fell flat
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tinonedown Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:25 AM
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51. The 'less than great actor' bit stunk
Sean Penn took a little notice against the Jude Law slams. He was a little off, but overall did well.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:03 AM
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58. I was also peeved by the Jude Law slam
certainly moreso than the Robbins/Kerry comments. Why did Rock go after Law, anyway?
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tinonedown Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:53 AM
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59. I 'think' it was innocent
Just a reach at humor that didn't go over well, because the expense of any actor on an awards show was....uncalled for.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:41 AM
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70. he mentioned he was in almost everything that plays today
hardly an insult to an actor.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:54 AM
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46. "totally RIDICULOUS"

I hope you'll pardon me for a moment while I let you know that

!!!!HE'S A COMEDIAN!!!!!

Or in the words of Foghorn Leghorn, "It's a JOKE, son! Don't ya get it!"

If you don't laugh at you're own caricature once in awhile, you'll go mad, which seems to have happened to quite a number of people taking themselves a wee bit too seriously lately.

Sheesh.

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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:26 AM
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53. No sense of ha, ha
Not everything is a conspiracy. Not everything deserves outrage. It was a joke. Tim Robbins laughed.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:40 AM
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56. Falls under the category of ribbing your friends
It's not like people don't know Rock's politics.

Didn't bother me.
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baron j Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:38 AM
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60. He's just following in the tradition of "insult comics" like Don Rickles:
no one is safe, and no thing is sacred. This goes back to the tradition of jesters. They say, and get away with saying, things that people are uncomfortable voicing out loud, particularly about those in power, or with celebrity. Of course we appreciate when he takes digs at the repugs, but only someone humorless can't take some ribbing--remember how nastily Eminem reacted to Triumph the Insult Comic Dog (Robert Smigel)? It is an honor to be made fun of; means one is enough in the spotlight to attract the digs.

I got the sense that Rock was being facetious when he slammed Robbins, and I'd wager that Robbins thought it was great. Robbins got his message out, despite the jokes; did you notice his blinged out peace symbol tie tack?

I like how Rock deflated the self-importance of the whole event, by visiting real people at the local movie theater and asking if they'd seen any of the movies that were nominated. The cameo by Albert Brooks was fun.

Also, after laying into Jude Law, he mentioned how many movies Jude has been in. I'm sure Jude thought it was funny, and is having the last laugh, all the way to the bank, and it doesn't hurt that many young women think he is hot.

Chris made fun of himself, as well. If anything, I thought he could have let out more of the stops, but was just being respectful. At the end of the show, he obviously seemed dazzled that he got to host it.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:43 AM
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61. This is a Drugge moment, pure and simple
Keeping that wedge issue alive.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 07:48 AM
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62. Hit and run post, don't feed...
RL
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 08:49 AM
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64. I didn't hear the Kerry thing, but the Tim Robbins
was a joke. I thought it was funny -- Tim seemed to, as well. It only means he's known as much for his advocacy as for his acting skills. That's not a bad thing, really.

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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 08:54 AM
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65. For the love of Pete...
... he was cracking a joke. I want to be like the right in that I want 'our' people to go after the other side with all claws extended.

One thing I don't want to do is get the thin skin the right has. They have thin skin because they know they are full of shit and they cannot abide any cracks in the facade.

Tim Robbins is a bigger man than that, as are his ideas and views. It will take a lot more than a one-liner from Chris Rock ( who I like ) to scratch him.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:40 AM
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69. It's the freakin movie awards people.
Coming from Hollywood. The place probably most out of touch with reality in the world (next to Washington DC of course) lighten up.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:44 AM
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71. That is NOT what happened.
First, he slammed Bush in a glorious, wonderful slamfest. He's host of the Oscars -- he roasted EVERYONE, including himself. What he said about Robbins and Sarandon was very tongue-in-cheek, you could tell. The Kerry things was on the bubble, but Oprah didn't respond gleefully at all: she pulled a "I can't believe you said that face," then laughed a little.

Again, Rock's slam at Bush was great, and I know it pissed off Freepers. How do I know this? My BIL is one, and he turned off the Oscars as soon as Rock started ragging on Bush.


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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:59 AM
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75. Notice that dude has not returned to respond to their "drive-by".
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:05 AM
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76. I hate to belabor the obvious, but he was JUST KIDDING.
If you found that hard to watch, you'd be curled up in the fetal position weeping after an episode of The Daily Show during the primary season and subsequent election cycle.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:10 AM
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78. Oh Jesus, learn to take a f*cking joke will ya?
:eyes:
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:29 AM
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84. Kick him out of the Politburo then
We can have no dissention. We must be completely humorless less we show weakness.

How ridiculous.

By the way, Sean Penn is an ass-hat.
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drbtg1 Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:38 AM
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86. Robbins' Oscar history makes him fair game
One year, as presenters, Mr. Robbins along with Ms. Sarandon interjected political commentary into the presentation (Sorry, I forget the year).

On a subsequent ceremony where they were again presenters, David Letterman introduced them as the couple who are "pissed off about something."
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:52 AM
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87. His comments on Jude Law were nasty
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 11:01 AM by Julius Civitatus
and very unnecessary. In a ceremony where the big Hollywood honchos pat each other on the back, it's refreshing to see some self-deprecating or some self-bashing humor. It always happens on the opening ceremony. The host always makes some jokes here and there about some of the nominees...

But now, Chris Rock singled out an actor who wasn't even nominated for an Oscar this year, and bashed him over and over again. He wouldn't let go. I found this to be a little bit unfair, because many of those actors worked their asses off to be where they are now. Not all of them are like that; a great deal of Hollywood's top billing actors are there because of nepotism. Many of them are there because they are the son or daughter of a previous Hollywood star. When it comes to nepotism, Hollywood has no rival in any industry.

Now, Jude Law is one exception. Hilary Swank is another. Law is one of those guys who had to work his ass off to get where he is now. It takes many years of living as a "starving artist" and talent to finally become a working actor. So he was in every movie that came out last year, and that's awful. Yes, I agree. Blame his agent. His agent should avoid over-exposure, or they'll burn him before his time.

I liked Chris Rock's intro in general, and the comparison of Bush and The Gap was priceless. I did not like how he went further than necessary with his barbs on some fellow artists. I'm sure the bit about "wait until you get a real star to make a movie" probably pissed off many at that venue. While a certain level of self-basing in that very decadent ceremony is definitely welcome, but to pick pick on some specific actors and trash them in public TV, to a world-wide audience is very bad PR. It doesn't look good, and it doesn't make him look good in the industry. This type of trashing bit can kill someone's career or stop it in its tracks, seriously.

I doubt he will be invited to host again, just because of that level of unpredictability. I'm sure there are a handful of agents and producers complaining to the Academy for the intro trashing.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:07 PM
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95. I don't think his barbs were any nastier than Martin's 2 yrs ago or
Billy Crystal's last year. :shrug: And I highly doubt anyone there was offended by his comments about stars. It isn't like Hollywood isn't aware of the star system, and Rock was making fun of that as much as the struggling actors. As if Pootie Tang would have been a good movie had they only gotten a star like Denzel instead of Rock.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:24 AM
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88. Oh come on!
True comedians make fun of everyone and that's what he did!
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:26 AM
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89. He made fun of Bush, too.
Of course he has to be neutral. It's all in good fun. If John Kerry took offence, he's a snob.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:30 AM
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90. I look at the original post and...
Just feel it's just another repuke here to stir up the pot.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:34 AM
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91. "Lighten up Francis"
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