If my son is sent Overseas and dies for the Bush wars

[Mari333]

fine Ive eddited it...f*ck it.

[GCP]

1. Is he in the service, Mari?

Edited because of paranoia.

[E_Zapata]

2. but, but, but, but........

Do you have other children and/or a spouse or parents or other people who might need you on this earth?

If your son goes to fight a war for Bush - it will be because your son signed up for it and received benefits and pay. There is a clause in whatever he signed saying, 'yep, I will fight for the govt.'

I am sorry to be so callous but I think sticking around and voting bush out of office might be more productive. We could use your vote more than a charred body in front of the WH, which will be quickly swept away and forgotten.

[rbnyc]

3. Agreed

There are better ways to make a statement.

[E_Zapata]

7. Yep, but I understand the passion and anger behind the statement...

The whole state of affairs of the world is pretty infuriating.

[Mari333]

5. My son did not sign up for this war and he was supposed to

be discharged in Nov..they put a Stop Lock on his unit and now they want to send them over..BULLSHIT..
He will not go, and if they force him to go, even tho he has worked thru every lawyer we have, and he dies in some damned war, Ill do it..
I gave birth to him, Ill die for him.

[E_Zapata]

8. Isn't the stop lock in the original agreement?

Yes, I think it is.

anyways, I hear you.

[Ladyhawk]

20. I'm sorry about your pain. :(

Recently I went to a meeting: Tuolumne County Citizens for Peace. Not too many liberals in our county, but there was a Jewish couple whose son is in the military overseas. :( I really felt for them. It must be so hard having family fighting in Bush's stupid wars.

But the way the news media is being, even if you did what you said, it might not get press. :( We mustn't insult the president. It's treasonous. Bill O'Reilly said so. :(

Having felt somewhat self-destructive myself lately, maybe I understand just a little bit what you are feeling, though I don't have flesh and blood in harm's way in Iraq.

Hang on. Don't look down. Don't let go. We have you.

[PinkTiger]

4. I can think of a better use for the gasoline....

But I can't write it online or the Treasury department would be after me.

[DUreader]

6. I think you might want to edit this Mari, It could be used against you

I have read many of your posts about your son and have thought

of you and him often while I have been away from DU


Love

[Mari333]

11. How?? I would only kill myself if he died

My other sons know about it,,,they are trying to talk me out of it..but if my son died in the Bush war....think about it...how would I make it????? I wouldnt..I would want to die..
Ive already been thru one death..there is no way I could make it thru another................

[Mel]

17. Mari333

for what it's worth I'm a Mom of one daughter and I can't say I understand she isn't in the military. What I do want to say is focus on those other sons! What will they do if their Mom does this? You have got to try to think about them they won't have their Mom same as you feel about the one son you see where I'm going with this?
You can make it through it and those other sons will need YOU. Don't you do that to them! They deserve you around and that one son doesn't need to carry what your thinking of while he's over there.
I'm awful awful awful at this but I feel that I have to at least try to get the wheels in your head to turn a different way. I hope I haven't said anything that makes you mad at me and if you want to be mad but you still change your frame of mind it will be worth it.
You keep talking to us here at DU and get your anger out cause you know what I think you have every right to be pissed off!

Know this you'll be in my thoughts! My daughter and I will focus our thoughts of good towards your son, you, and your family!

I'm not even gonna' tell you not to worry, I know better! :) but know this the worst is not wrote in stone and you need to think and focus on the best. I know it may sound silly but try this see your son making it and coming back in good shape. Send out positive thoughts and I figure it's not going to hurt anything to try.

[madmax]

9. We all care for you Mari and your son

I don't have any fancy thingys so please accept my plain but most sincerest hugs {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Mari}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

:loveya:

[Booberdawg]

10. If that were to happen, and God willing it will not

perhaps you would best honor him by having the courage to carry on in his absence and raise holy hell about it. Suicide by histrionic display doesn't seem like and honorable statement to make, in my mind anyway. And I say that as a mother who has lost a son under tragic circumstances.

I can certanly understand your anger about his situation right now. Fucking bush and his war. *sigh*

[Mari333]

12. Im sorry u lost a son Im so sorry

I lost a husband who was blown up in a chemical explosion at work when he was only 36....I was left with 3 beautiful little boys to raise on my own..
If I lose one of them, well..
I cant. I cant.

[latebloomer]

13. I'm so sorry you had to go through that

and as a mother I understand your feelings.

[Booberdawg]

14. Yes, I know what you mean. I really do. I couldn't either ...

First of all, nothing has happened to your son. Why put yourself through this torture right now?? There is every chance he will come back in one piece and without getting his ass shot off, forgive my French. Please Mari, you are understandably upset about his service being extended and his being deployed, but don't escalate it right NOW and do such a head fuck on yourself.

Take this a day at a time. You still have him. ;)

[roguevalley]

16. I feel the same way with my nephew.

Don't give up, honey. This can't go
on forever the way it is. Something
has to give.

[never cry wolf]

19. I missed your original post

before you edited, but i think i get the drift. i can empathize with your feelings, i have a soon to be 18 year old son. but you MUST think about your other boys. how old are they?? are they on their own or still living at home?? do you have grandchildren?? if you don't yet, you will, don't you want to be able to instill your values in them?? can you imagine how cheated your other sons would feel??

as someone who is just now discovering at the age of 49 that there is so much to live for, i must urge you to use that anger and energy for your family and their future. do all you can to help get these bastards out of power and cede US control to the UN so they can take over so more in your postition do not have to go through this.

i am sure your son would not want you to do this to yourself, his brothers and future nieces and nephews. if something were to happen, you must be the rock and honor his memory with the strength and resolve you have proven to have by raising three boys on your own.

[Shanty Oilish]

15. Do this first

Since it's going to affect your son and the rest of your family, sit down and tell them your plans.

[RainDog]

18. Love is stronger than Death

Mari333- I'm also a mom, and I've been through some difficult times losing family members when they were too young, and dealing with illnesses or disabilities in children, and...you know what I'm talking about better than I do.

Your son would not want you to do something that it seems you've said, based on other posts.

Your other sons need you, and need to know you will live and fight in ways which will empower them.

When it all seems like too much, then it's time to step back and remember why we love the people we do, the earth we live with, and the everyday things which reconnect us with the goodness in this life.

For me, it's growing plants, or sitting in a glider with a book, or listening to Buddy Guy.

You know what it is for you.

Be strong for all your sons, just as you've had to do for many years. Send your love to your son, when he's so far away, by a yoga prayer.

Tonight is a full moon. I'm going to send some prayers to him and his fellow soldiers tonight, too.

Love is stronger than death. Love can conquer a man like Bush before an act of desperation borne of grief. I pray that your son, and all mothers' sons will be safe and protected and home sooner rather than later.

Don't try to change the world tonight. Try to change the sadness and fear in your heart with some deep breathing yoga prayers, or whatever you do to find that way to send your love to your son.

I'm going outside now to sit on my porch and pray to send peace and safety.

I'm not a typically religious person, but I think we can help to create a better world through the power of goodness in the face of lies, greed, and arrogance.

And I'm sending a hug to you, too.