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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:12 PM
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Poll question: Which DUer Should Never Be Messed With?
I'm curious how all of you would defend yourselves should you one day find yourself in the midst of a criminal or some evil doer who seeks to do you wrong.

What is your self defense mechanism?
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:18 PM
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1. I'm pre menopausal.. My attitude would probably scare them away.
:-)


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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:13 PM
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17. Damn right. Pre-menstrual or pre-menopausal? Get OUT THE WAY
cause momma gonna kick your ass.

With a smile! :)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 09:35 PM
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34. Same here--look out; I'm hot and cranky as hell!!!
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:19 PM
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2. I doubt any true DUer with a gun would use it...
but a DUer who knows martial arts is something to be wary of. :argh:
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:22 PM
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4. dont be too sure
Edited on Mon Oct-13-03 04:22 PM by Kamika
Id happily use a gun on anyone attacking me.

I just carry pepper spray though.
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 08:57 PM
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29. I would if I had to.
But only if I had to.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:21 PM
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3. Flatulence
'nuff said.

--bkl
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Lady Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:23 PM
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5. This one!!!
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:25 PM
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6. Actually happened to me once..
.. Me, along with some other friends, had been kicked out of a part, despite being invited and all. As we stood around on the street, talking about we were going to do, some of the locals came up and started being really provocative (ie. pushing, trash-talking etc.).

They really wanted to fight, since they didn't like our attitude.

I decked one of them, and I'm normally a pacifist, and all of the sudden the rest didn't feel like fighting anyone. I think it also helped that i weight in at around 250 pounds, with most of it coming from excessive hours at the local gym (and the rest from excessive time spent consuming beer).
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:26 PM
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7. "'e used sarcasm" n/t
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:26 PM
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8. I had a friend who would say "I know judo and crockett"...If she did not
beat you to death she could challenge you to a gentleman's game...LOL..of course it was supposed to be karate, but she said it with such grace!! She was a VERY intelligent person pretending to be really really a southern simple woman. When asked if she wanted filet mignon she declined and stated "I don't like fish"...LOL! She was full of these sorts of diddies!!
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:27 PM
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9. Does 3 Out Of 5 Count?
:evilgrin:
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:29 PM
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10. By whatever means neccessary. I no longer carry a gun
I have used them.
I do carry a knife, when the Air Transportation InSecuity Agency lets me, that is.
I have used it too.
I have also been known to throw garbage cans, computer monitors, and once or twice hand grenades at various enemy entities.

Fuck with me, and you will have problems. Probably not the ones you expect, either.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:22 PM
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20. As I Said
3 out of 5.

Plus a couple of others....

As open as I am, it dosen't pay to advertise your talents and experience sometimes.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:31 PM
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11. You forgot THE MOST IMPORTANT tactic...
I'm a Democrat. By doing nothing I become invisible!

(You can't hit what you can't see.) ;)
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Stupdworld Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:32 PM
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12. HA! I beat all of you
Edited on Mon Oct-13-03 04:33 PM by Stupdworld
I am a 19th lvl necromancer with Fallen Archon Elven Blade of Chaos +5 which gives me a +15 boost to my AC, gives me +4 bonus HP/lvl and allows me the ability to double my available spells and cast "wail of the banshee" every time I am sucessfully damaged!


plus i know where the wmd's are.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:36 PM
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14. Munchkin!
:evilgrin:
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:03 PM
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16. amateur
Im a 65 rogue, with a 19/20 main hand dagger that procs a 120 dmg firebolt.

AND all my resists are over 100
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:35 PM
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13. All of the above
Except the carrying a handgun bit. :) I carry a hefty walking stick instead (I actually used to carry a nifty hidden sword/umbrella item I got from Atlanta Cutlery but Giuliani signed some law making those illegal here). I'm a lifelong student of the martial arts. JKD and Qi Gong primarily, though I have dabbled in other styles. I mostly study for the spiritual and physical benefits but the knowledge has come in handy several times.

I also carry my considerably large athame with me at all times. Hey, I follow the path of the warrior witch. They ain't takin' me down without a fight. :)
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:27 PM
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27. In A Large City
I carry a rolled up magazine; inoffensive in appearance but effective if applied to the throat, chest or groin end first with force.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:57 PM
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15. simple
if there were a situation where a 'criminal or some evil doer who seeks
to do you wrong'

i'd simply not show up.

it's a great big world, and lot's of peace out there.
dp
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:16 PM
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18. BEfore I attack I would have to think about if I wanted to touch that evil
If I decided yes...look out I like to headbutt.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:18 PM
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19. Don't go places where I
place myself in unnecessary danger. Common caution combined with being a male provides reasonable security. We do have guns at home but I pray I never have to use one. I haven't shot one in twenty years.
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:24 PM
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21. The only offensive weapon I need is my personality.
:evilgrin:
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:24 PM
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22. I'm 6' 5" -- so I've got that going for me...
Also know how to box pretty well, and have excellent situational awareness.

If a malefactor wants to engage in fisticuffs, I can hold my own.

But if he were to draw a piece, well, he gets my wallet or whatever -- I'm not going to lose my life over *stuff.*

Also, I can act really insane and foam at the mouth! :toast:
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 09:06 PM
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31. I'm 5'9"
May weigh 150 lbs with no fat and a scowl on my face when I'm unconfortable.

I've also been a Telephone Installer/Repairman, Service Rep, have never engaged in "fist 'n cuffs" beyond grade school and every officer I've encountered has addressed me as "sir."

I like to think of myself as a nice, easy-going guy that can and will help out others at a drop of a hat (check with Newyawker99), but I haven't met a "malefactor willing to engage in fist-and-cuffs" yet.

Drop 'em, pick their ass up off the floor and buy them a beer before you pay for their cab fare home in a friendly bar.

Crack Heads are a different story....

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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:25 PM
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23. Skittles!! n/t
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:43 PM
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24. I can barf on command
:P
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 09:06 PM
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30. This is effective!
:toast:
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:03 PM
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25. I carry my attack-wife everywhere I go
:P
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:12 PM
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26. me.
rawr. did i scare you? :)
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rexcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 08:32 PM
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28. I have been taking
martial arts for the past two years. In close quarters I think I could do some real harm to someone. I also have a 9mm pistol with a 15 round clip or two or three but it has a trigger lock on it and is locked in a lock box which is locked in a cabinet in the basement, and the ammunition is locked in another box. I don't think the thing would do me much good unless the gun happened to be out, which is rarely, but I am a good shot!
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 09:15 PM
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32. Been there (unfortunately) and done that...
Option 1 - martial arts....long-time student of them, though it bummed me out that I finally had to use them for real (happy, though, that it worked...everything just happened). This was against an unarmed assailant, who also once trained in a martial art and in boxing. It was outide, in pitch dark, in an extremely restricted area on uneven ground - illustrated perfectly that you cannot chosse where you'll need to fight. I could hardly see the SOB.

Actually striking him for real, with kicks and punches (especially punches to the head) was disturbing, but I knew I had to do it - I was motivated solely by a strong knowledge that if I relented in my counterattacks he was going to hurt me big time, and I was not thrilled about that. So I kept at him until he went down - after his initial kick, that I absorbed by moving quickly back as he threw it, I had him...none of his punches landed on my body or head whereas most of mine targeted his head area. A flurry of action over in seconds, very unlike the movies. I suspect that the biggest barrier to effective empty-hand self-defense is the aversion most of us have to actually striking another person for real - I suspect that it's worse for women, who're typically instilled with anything but a roughhousing or fighting ethic as kids - but you'd better get over it or they will make you hurt, or worse. That's where martial arts training can help. I've posted stuff about martial arts before - search function doesn't work too well for me but, if you're interested in a self-defense program (as opposed to or in addition to longer-term study of a martial art) that I think sounds really great, there's a thing called Model Mugging that will sort you out. Do a Google search if you can't find my original post on these guys.

I've also pulled option #4 many times - running or, at least walking expeditiously away or otherwise escpaing the arena. Running is the ultimate martial art. Far more elegant and safe (potential shin splints aside, I guess) a solution than staying to slog it out. I most recently adopted this strategy in avoiding an armed man who wanted to kill me (yes, it's been that kind of year for me, actually) - he had to find me first, the f***er, and he didn't. I was armed (albeit a few notches down on the lethal-weapon scale) but not looking forward to going against what he was toting. I could have been stupid and sought confrontation - the ultimate test of my skills, right? - but that's also known as stupid. I faced the same dilemma years ago, when I escaped the scene around a knife-wielding man but almost went back because I was (i) mad as hell and wanted to beat the crap out of him and (ii) part of me, a perverted part, wanted to know if I could pull out a real, effective, empty-hand knife defense. Totally insane nagging thoughts, both of them, but they were there. Common sense prevailed, thank goodness.

One of these days I should probably learn how to use firearms - as long as the United States of America insists on allowing its citizens to pack heat (and I hereby send a hearty f***-you out to anyone here who actually thinks this is inherently a good idea, leaving aside all issues of alleged constitutional 'rights') I may as well know how to use the things, even if I never own one.

I wouldn't recommend option #5 as a matter of course. Too many sickos in this sick society these days are not deterred by any notion of compassion that might be incited by an opponent who's cowering and blubbering in fear. That they're likely as not armed with firearms, that allow any unskilled moron to easily take a life, doesn't help.

Work within your physiological and other limits to ensure that you are, physically, able to escape a potentially violent encounter - this includes mental training (be alert, my friends!), engage in martial arts training (self-defense being the tip of the iceberg there...and there's pretty much a system for everyone), and maybe buy and learn how to use a firearm if you really feel you have to and aren't likely to ever use it to reinforce a vociferously-argued point with your significant other. In all of these, being alert and aware of your surroundings and of potential threat (almost ever-present, but let's not get paranoid) will go the furthest in saving your bootie.

Like the Sergeant dude used to say on Hill Street Blues, let's be careful out there, people.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 09:20 PM
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33. I am the absolute master/world champ of.............
ridicule by rolling my eyes. In fact there have been times where I have worried my eyes would roll to the back of my head and get stuck there.

Otherwise I think God protects the foolish. With my propensity for confronting people who could kill me if provoked, I am not sure why else I am still here.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 09:43 PM
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35. Like this?
:eyes:

I finally find a use for that smiley!

Yes, there's a lot to be said for divine/universal/whatever protection, I think. Sometimes good things really do happen to good people, and bad things don't.
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